Can you understand the logic of Universality, in terms of all of us ending in heaven?

[BreezeWood]

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what the OP is saying and was the parable of Noah is that all remaining at the time of the final Judgement, all those alive will be the same, having accomplished the Triumph of Good vs Evil and will either be admitted to the Everlasting or will have the same destiny as those that suffered the flood. it's all or non. is why saving others is saving yourself.

The triumph you speak of is our recognition that in our evolving world and species, man must compete and cooperate and that when we compete, that is the only human to human evil that exists.

It is not really good vs evil. It is more the good recognizing that it must do some evil to continue man's evolution and thus embrace evil as well as good.

Yin and Yang are not opposites, they are complementary to each other. In evolution good and evil are also complementary to each other.

To do otherwise would have the weak inherit the earth and not the strong or fittest of our species.

Regards
DL

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Yin and Yang are not opposites, they are complementary to each other. In evolution good and evil are also complementary to each other.

absolutely not ... one or the other, Triumph. the Apex of Knowledge is not Yin : Yang it is their solution. evil must be conquered ... entirely (no longer exist) for remission to the Everlasting - imperfection is not allowed in the genome of life - the Almighty conquered evil, that's why a person is judged. their way or the highway.

LOL.

"the Almighty conquered evil"

So you do not see any evil here on earth. Ok.

So much for your lie.

Regards
DL

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"the Almighty conquered evil"

So you do not see any evil here on earth. Ok.

So much for your lie.

the good life is not given but accomplished and then one lives on in the Everlasting, evil is presently everywhere found on planet Earth, that's the job we are tasked with to wipe it out "completely" ... no yin-yang, it's not that hard to understand.

perhaps the only person (known) to have completely wipe out evil in themselves existed 2017 years ago and was crucified - just bringing that crime to justice has yet to be accomplished ... the parable of Noah has a long ways to go.

IOW, your "the Almighty conquered evil", was a lie and you do not have the couth to admit it.

Your new lie of Jesus is duly noted as you cannot possibly know his mind or what was in it.

Try using things you know instead of speculative nonsense that some lying priest or preacher put into you and do try to stop lying yourself or at least start admitting it when caught.

Regards
DL

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IOW, your "the Almighty conquered evil", was a lie and you do not have the couth to admit it.

that is the Task the Almighty requires as accomplished by theirself for the newly born "of choice" to make also ... for Admission into the Everlasting.

a flawed individual as Jesus need not have the presence of evil in their character, the purity is the requirement irrespective of their flaws.

 

[GreatestIam]

The triumph you speak of is our recognition that in our evolving world and species, man must compete and cooperate and that when we compete, that is the only human to human evil that exists.

It is not really good vs evil. It is more the good recognizing that it must do some evil to continue man's evolution and thus embrace evil as well as good.

Yin and Yang are not opposites, they are complementary to each other. In evolution good and evil are also complementary to each other.

To do otherwise would have the weak inherit the earth and not the strong or fittest of our species.

Regards
DL

.

Yin and Yang are not opposites, they are complementary to each other. In evolution good and evil are also complementary to each other.

absolutely not ... one or the other, Triumph. the Apex of Knowledge is not Yin : Yang it is their solution. evil must be conquered ... entirely (no longer exist) for remission to the Everlasting - imperfection is not allowed in the genome of life - the Almighty conquered evil, that's why a person is judged. their way or the highway.

LOL.

"the Almighty conquered evil"

So you do not see any evil here on earth. Ok.

So much for your lie.

Regards
DL

.

"the Almighty conquered evil"

So you do not see any evil here on earth. Ok.

So much for your lie.

the good life is not given but accomplished and then one lives on in the Everlasting, evil is presently everywhere found on planet Earth, that's the job we are tasked with to wipe it out "completely" ... no yin-yang, it's not that hard to understand.

perhaps the only person (known) to have completely wipe out evil in themselves existed 2017 years ago and was crucified - just bringing that crime to justice has yet to be accomplished ... the parable of Noah has a long ways to go.

IOW, your "the Almighty conquered evil", was a lie and you do not have the couth to admit it.

Your new lie of Jesus is duly noted as you cannot possibly know his mind or what was in it.

Try using things you know instead of speculative nonsense that some lying priest or preacher put into you and do try to stop lying yourself or at least start admitting it when caught.

Regards
DL

.

IOW, your "the Almighty conquered evil", was a lie and you do not have the couth to admit it.

that is the Task the Almighty requires as accomplished by theirself for the newly born "of choice" to make also ... for Admission into the Everlasting.

a flawed individual as Jesus need not have the presence of evil in their character, the purity is the requirement irrespective of their flaws.

All garbage.

Regards
DL

 

[BreezeWood]

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absolutely not ... one or the other, Triumph. the Apex of Knowledge is not Yin : Yang it is their solution. evil must be conquered ... entirely (no longer exist) for remission to the Everlasting - imperfection is not allowed in the genome of life - the Almighty conquered evil, that's why a person is judged. their way or the highway.

LOL.

"the Almighty conquered evil"

So you do not see any evil here on earth. Ok.

So much for your lie.

Regards
DL

.

"the Almighty conquered evil"

So you do not see any evil here on earth. Ok.

So much for your lie.

the good life is not given but accomplished and then one lives on in the Everlasting, evil is presently everywhere found on planet Earth, that's the job we are tasked with to wipe it out "completely" ... no yin-yang, it's not that hard to understand.

perhaps the only person (known) to have completely wipe out evil in themselves existed 2017 years ago and was crucified - just bringing that crime to justice has yet to be accomplished ... the parable of Noah has a long ways to go.

IOW, your "the Almighty conquered evil", was a lie and you do not have the couth to admit it.

Your new lie of Jesus is duly noted as you cannot possibly know his mind or what was in it.

Try using things you know instead of speculative nonsense that some lying priest or preacher put into you and do try to stop lying yourself or at least start admitting it when caught.

Regards
DL

.

IOW, your "the Almighty conquered evil", was a lie and you do not have the couth to admit it.

that is the Task the Almighty requires as accomplished by theirself for the newly born "of choice" to make also ... for Admission into the Everlasting.

a flawed individual as Jesus need not have the presence of evil in their character, the purity is the requirement irrespective of their flaws.

All garbage.

Regards
DL

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All garbage.

oh, having choice to know the difference and using the accumulated knowledge gathered through life to conquer what is "evil" demanded by the Almighty as the accomplishment necessary for the Spirit to live freely through Admission to the Everlasting ... the genome of life from where the Spirit is first made, to bad for you sinner.

 

[GreatestIam]

More garbage.

Regards
DL

 

[BreezeWood]

More garbage.

Regards
DL

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you have a cousin, they think like you ....

 

[Avatar4321]

Can you understand the logic of Universality, in terms of all of us ending in heaven?


Hell is obviously an invention of the church. Universalists Gnostic Christianity and other Universalist Abrahamic cults do not see God as a loser of the souls he calls the light of the world.


The light of the world does not end in hell.


2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.


1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.


As you can see, especially those last two quotes, all are saved without a sacrifice.


The logic behind Universalism begins with knowing that all souls are created equal. It thus follows that God would treat all souls the same way and would all be given the best possible end due to us being the light of the world and equal. This follows natural law as well as heavenly law as those are never in conflict.


Look at judging, from God’s point of view, with an example of one we mostly think of as evil, Hitler.


Hitler would appear before God and as God examines Hitler’s life, he would see that all those Hitler interacted with, and who contributed to what Hitler became, would all have to share the blame and guilt for Hitler becoming the monster we think he was.


If you take that sound judging logic to it’s ultimate end, you will see the logic of either punishing all of us for what we have contributed to evil, or forgive us all for all being exactly what God, if he existed, created us to be.


Non-Universalist creeds, that have that imaginary religious creation called hell, are trying to appease their own blame and guilt by placing some souls above others even though God would have created us all equal. God unites while religions separate.


Do you believe God to be a Universalist God, or a God that is such a poor creator that he would have to send his perfectly created souls to eternal punishment instead of just curing them, if required?


Regards

DL

So when do you get to the logic part?

 

[Avatar4321]

More garbage.

Regards
DL

Garbage in, garbage out.

Not sure why you expect differently

 

[Avatar4321]

It's real easy to understand the logic of universality. It's a get out of jail free card.

Not at all.

Heaven has no jails or bodies that can be killed but we sure do have those here.

I am talking of heaven's and not earth's Universality and how a God would see things.

I believe in jailing murderers and would not give them a get out of hell free card.

Regards
DL

What do you know of heaven?

The resurrection is evidence that we do indeed have bodies in heaven. Christ did not ascend to heaven until after His body was restored.

 

[Avatar4321]

If we all go to heaven to be with God, what is the point of us being here without him?

When you recognize that your God is a Goddess, then you will be on the road to enlightenment.

That must happen before you can force your apotheosis and clearly recognize that she was always within you.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Jesus in those passages is showing men where their Father is. He is also showing you where your Mother is.

Father and Mother here I use more in Jung and Freud's Father/Mother Complex.

Father complex - Wikipedia

Ignore the Odeipus Complex part. Jung did not hold to that part of that research.

Regards
DL

Not a single one of those verses backed up anything you said

 

[Avatar4321]

If we all go to heaven to be with God, what is the point of us being here without him?

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If we all go to heaven to be with God, what is the point of us being here without him?

what the OP is saying and was the parable of Noah is that all remaining at the time of the final Judgement, all those alive will be the same, having accomplished the Triumph of Good vs Evil and will either be admitted to the Everlasting or will have the same destiny as those that suffered the flood. it's all or non. is why saving others is saving yourself.

The triumph you speak of is our recognition that in our evolving world and species, man must compete and cooperate and that when we compete, that is the only human to human evil that exists.

It is not really good vs evil. It is more the good recognizing that it must do some evil to continue man's evolution and thus embrace evil as well as good.

Yin and Yang are not opposites, they are complementary to each other. In evolution good and evil are also complementary to each other.

To do otherwise would have the weak inherit the earth and not the strong or fittest of our species.

Regards
DL

Evolving world and species? The ones who can't learn from the previous thousands of years of human history and insist on repeating the same stupid mistakes the Lord warned about since the beginning?

That evolving world and species?