Can you own a fully automatic gun in the US

[westwall]

The current laws state that only machine guns manufactured before 1984 can be owned by the civilian public, there is also a very thorough back ground check. If you pass then you can buy one if you can afford it. They are hideously expensive.

Fully automatic small arms are not the super accurate death machines you see on TV. I had a hard time keeping on target with a 3rd burst M-16 and I never missed on semi. I had a spotter to tell me when when I hit a target with the M-2 before I opened up on it and I just sprayed and prayed with the M249. Of course all of my experience in the Army was at the range I can't imagine what kind of hit my accuracy would have taken in actual combat.

1986 is the year.

 

[westwall]

Civilians can only buy fully automatic firearms that were manufactured and registered prior to May 19, 1986, and they must undergo a thorough background check and be approved by the ATF.

To legally obtain a fully automatic firearm in the U.S., individuals must apply for a special license from the ATF, undergo a background check, and comply with all federal, state, and local laws and regulations.

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No license is required unless you want to purchase Dealer Samples. In that case you need an O1 FFL with a Special Occupational Tax to make it a Class III license.

If you are just purchasing Fully Transferable machine guns you need no license.

 

[westwall]

Do they have gun shops (or stores) in the UK?
Interesting video!

Yes, the Holland and Holland store is very, very nice.

 

[The Duke]

Same in the UK, you have to apply direct to the Home Office. Apparently it's extremely tough but gun collectors kinda bend the rules to obtain one. Plus, just having a secure gun box on the wall is not adequate.

Just with the bump-stock situation in the US, I just wondered if you could have fully automatic or not

Yes, but it requires a special permit.
Now, if I may, can I ask you a question.
Could you buy a handgun or a rifle if you wanted to?
Not a machine gun, just a piston of some sort or a hunting rifle.

I don't think you even have to be 18 to buy a piston.

What's the correlation with hunting rifle, though?

If I was to pick one to end all, it'd be a BAR tier III in .270 or 30-.06

.308? Nah.

WITH an old school Weaver 6 power. That's it. I could work with that.

 

[The Duke]

How is it near you now?

Greg

Quiet, because we all have a fuckton of guns.
Oh, and everywhere is tree tunnels.

 

[Grumpyolman]

I don't think you even have to be 18 to buy a piston.

What's the correlation with hunting rifle, though?

If I was to pick one to end all, it'd be a BAR tier III in .270 or 30-.06

.308? Nah.

WITH an old school Weaver 6 power. That's it. I could work with that.

A BAR? You mean a Browning Automatic Rifle BAR? Fox hunting would be jolly well good fun with that, right mate? You couldn't hold on to it and the horse would freak the eff out, but....
LOL.
Are you a Brit?

 

[AZrailwhale]

A BAR? You mean a Browning Automatic Rifle BAR? Fox hunting would be jolly well good fun with that, right mate? You couldn't hold on to it and the horse would freak the eff out, but....
LOL.
Are you a Brit?

Browning makes a semi-auto hunting rifle called the BAR that has nothing to do with the military weapon. Doesn’t look like it, doesn’t use a detachable magazine, no similarity at all except the name.

 

[Concerned American]

I don't think you even have to be 18 to buy a piston.

Different states have different laws on this one. WA says you have to be 18 to purchase a handgun.

 

[M14 Shooter]

You have to be cleared to own a full auto by the LEO, and it is not easy.
Very few people own them legitimately.

Last I saw, the NFA registry contained about 750,000 full-auto firearms.

 

[The Duke]

Browning makes a semi-auto hunting rifle called the BAR that has nothing to do with the military weapon. Doesn’t look like it, doesn’t use a detachable magazine, no similarity at all except the name.

And it'sh beeyootiful!
Actually they do have a detachable magazine, it just mounts kinda flush.

 

[The Duke]

Different states have different laws on this one. WA says you have to be 18 to purchase a handgun.

Yeah, but we're talking about pistons now.
I bought pistons when I was 16.

 

[AZrailwhale]

And it'sh beeyootiful!
Actually they do have a detachable magazine, it just mounts kinda flush.

Thanks, I've only seen photos.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Thanks, I've only seen photos.

 

[The Duke]

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I'm talking something like this:

Really those deer should be switched around, but OK.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I'm talking something like this:

Really those deer should be switched around, but OK.

Same gun. Mag will fit.

 

[The Duke]

Same gun. Mag will fit.

Yeah, doesn't look as nice, though.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

So does the 2nd Amendment allow you to own a fully automatic gun in the USA?

Yes

 

[whitehall]

The (now) legendary Clinton massacre in Waco Tx. happened because an overreaching ATF determined that Branch Davidians were actively converting old WW2 rusty junk into fully automatic weapons. After the tank assault and the poison gas and the conflagration was over the ATF couldn't find a single weapon or any trace of a WW2 weapon in the rubble.

 

[initforme]

We allow only single shot or bolt action rifles on our hunting land. Anything more would lead to a moron not taking a good quality shot.

 

[Hollie]

So does the 2nd Amendment allow you to own a fully automatic gun in the USA?

Sure. And lots of other fun stuff if you have the money and can pass the permitting required.