Can we as a nation, survive stupidity of the magnitude?

[deltex1]

Holder is working on a plan as we speak...just in time.

 

[g5000]

Cops should not be able to kill unarmed people without consequence. From the evidence released, I believe it should have gone to trial.

Did you listen to the prosecutor and the follow-up Q&A period?

The rioters didn't. They began marching as soon as they found out there would be no indictment. They did not bother to find out why. They had their minds made up about what happened before they had any facts.

If they had listened to the full story, they probably would not have rioted.

A lot of the "eyewitnesses" lied. They made up bullshit, and many of them weren't even there. When confronted with facts which contradicted their bullshit, they changed their stories or recanted.

Every witness who said that Brown charged toward the cop was black. And Brown's blood trail is 25 feel long, moving in the direction toward the cop.

And not one injury was a shot from behind.

The forensic evidence supported the cop's story.

The problem with the black community in this case, as in so many cases, is that they picked a thug as their martyr. Huge mistake.

 

[deltex1]

Listening to Holder, I would advise Wilson to head for Australia....now.

 

[healthmyths]

What you believe and $5 might get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

True enough, but it matters to me. Eventually all these cops killing unarmed people is going to backfire on the police themselves. Already nutters are out killing cops for the hell of it.

Punish wrong doers, whether cops or not.

The first step in your last sentence means that you have to determine wrong-doing.

We have determined that the officer has done nothing wrong to warrant punishment.
This is how the system works.

Now, the wrong-doers out there burning buildings, stealing property, and attacking police ARE doing wrong. Care to express the outrage for these wrongs?

But that is precisely the issue is that the SYSTEM did work and that's the problem. Once again, the cops get off with no punishment and are back out on the streets. The system disregards any black person witnessing a crime and believes only the cop. There was no cross-examination of his testimony, just accepted it at face value as 100% true when this is the person TRYING TO GET OFF FOR MURDER. Yeah he is totally going to tell the truth that everything he did was completely right.

It's not the "stupidity of this magnitude", it's your failure to realize that black people are treated differently by police simply because they are black. They are viewed as liars, not credible and not worth of due process. That's the viewpoint. They are afraid of the police because they bully them and use force, even deadly force, for situations that do not call for it.

You don't understand because YOU don't live in their world, experience what they experience, see what they see. So how is it "stupid" for a black person to tell us how it feels to live in their community?

Did you read the 100s of pages of testimony? If not you are doing just what the Democrat Prosecutor stated...making totally unsubstantiated 3rd,4th party observations!
And this crap about blacks being bullied! Bull shit!
Where are the demostrations about the black COP that shot the white guy in Utah? See any of the rest of us burning down stores?

So are black people not racially profiled by police and treated differently by them? Because if you truly believe that, you are pretty naive.

Of course they are profiled! Dumb f...k!
AND why not?
Statistics!
It is the FACTS that as a percentage of their population blacks as a group have more criminals then any other ethnic group.
Here are the numbers:

Crime in the United States - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

So why else would there be a "stereotype" given that 7% of Blacks are arrested whereas less then 3% of Whites are arrested.
Given a "stereotype" is based on experiences OR the facts, in this case the FACTS are no matter how you parse, context,try to explain...
7% of all blacks are arrested. less the 3% of all Whites are arrested.

 

[JFK_USA]

So how are we as a nation, supposed to survive this kind if stupidity? People who are not just stupid, but proud enough about their stupidity to announce it to the entire world. They can look at the evidence and not see the truth, they can hear logic and reason and willingly turn away from it. They are so proud of their stupidity that they announce it, tweet about it, go on TV and tell it to everyone, and turn a blind eye to what the facts are.

This includes are moron president, who thinks that the justice system is broken.

We are doomed, I pity the young.

The system is broken. The system targets blacks and minorities a lot more than whites.

Drug use among the races are very similar but black and hispanics make up the majority of the arrests for possession. Why is that?

No, it isn't broken nit wit. Unless you can prove that there are innocent blacks in jail on no evidence then you are talking out of your ass. If there are more blacks in prison it's because more blacks commit crimes. Put down the bong and join us in reality. Or just continue to be stupid.

Did the blacks and Hispanics commit the crimes or not? Were they possessing the drugs or not? You are whining about people who committ crimes being in jail idiot.

Yes it is if they are RACIALLY TARGETING blacks more than they are whites. That's the whole point that you fail to understand. They won't target the white, more well off people but the poorer minorities because people LIKE YOU will not care that they are being unfairly targeted as long as it's not your family. Which leads to them stopping and harassing more blacks which leads to conflicts which leads to Michael Brown situations all the time.

It's the targeting of a certain minority because it's "easier" and people will not care about their rights or listen to their side of the story (Like you have done throughout this thread). So yeah for you, the system isn't broken because you rather them bust the black kids than the white ones.

 

[Ravi]

Cops should not be able to kill unarmed people without consequence. From the evidence released, I believe it should have gone to trial.

Did you listen to the prosecutor and the follow-up Q&A period?

The rioters didn't. They began marching as soon as they found out there would be no indictment. They did not bother to find out why. They had their minds made up about what happened before they had any facts.

If they had listened to the full story, they probably would not have rioted.

A lot of the "eyewitnesses" lied. They made up bullshit, and many of them weren't even there. When confronted with facts which contradicted their bullshit, they changed their stories or recanted.

Every witness who said that Brown charged toward the cop was black. And Brown's blood trail is 25 feel long, moving in the direction toward the cop.

And not one injury was a shot from behind.

The forensic evidence supported the cop's story.

The problem with the black community in this case, as in so many cases, is that they picked a thug as their martyr. Huge mistake.

Why the blood trail?

 

[Ravi]

Listening to Holder, I would advise Wilson to head for Australia....now.

You'd marry him I'm thinking.

 

[JFK_USA]

True enough, but it matters to me. Eventually all these cops killing unarmed people is going to backfire on the police themselves. Already nutters are out killing cops for the hell of it.

Punish wrong doers, whether cops or not.

The first step in your last sentence means that you have to determine wrong-doing.

We have determined that the officer has done nothing wrong to warrant punishment.
This is how the system works.

Now, the wrong-doers out there burning buildings, stealing property, and attacking police ARE doing wrong. Care to express the outrage for these wrongs?

But that is precisely the issue is that the SYSTEM did work and that's the problem. Once again, the cops get off with no punishment and are back out on the streets. The system disregards any black person witnessing a crime and believes only the cop. There was no cross-examination of his testimony, just accepted it at face value as 100% true when this is the person TRYING TO GET OFF FOR MURDER. Yeah he is totally going to tell the truth that everything he did was completely right.

It's not the "stupidity of this magnitude", it's your failure to realize that black people are treated differently by police simply because they are black. They are viewed as liars, not credible and not worth of due process. That's the viewpoint. They are afraid of the police because they bully them and use force, even deadly force, for situations that do not call for it.

You don't understand because YOU don't live in their world, experience what they experience, see what they see. So how is it "stupid" for a black person to tell us how it feels to live in their community?

Did you read the 100s of pages of testimony? If not you are doing just what the Democrat Prosecutor stated...making totally unsubstantiated 3rd,4th party observations!
And this crap about blacks being bullied! Bull shit!
Where are the demostrations about the black COP that shot the white guy in Utah? See any of the rest of us burning down stores?

So are black people not racially profiled by police and treated differently by them? Because if you truly believe that, you are pretty naive.

Of course they are profiled! Dumb f...k!
AND why not?
Statistics!
It is the FACTS that as a percentage of their population blacks as a group have more criminals then any other ethnic group.
Here are the numbers:
View attachment 34351
Crime in the United States - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

So why else would there be a "stereotype" given that 7% of Blacks are arrested whereas less then 3% of Whites are arrested.
Given a "stereotype" is based on experiences OR the facts, in this case the FACTS are no matter how you parse, context,try to explain...
7% of all blacks are arrested. less the 3% of all Whites are arrested.

Could that be because they are targeting the more vulnerable (ie. poorer) person who is in possession of crack rather than go after the hedge fund manager's son who is in possession of cocaine because of ease of prosecution?

 

[deltex1]

Listening to Holder, I would advise Wilson to head for Australia....now.

You'd marry him I'm thinking.

Six Katyushas awarded.

 

[PredFan]

So how are we as a nation, supposed to survive this kind if stupidity? People who are not just stupid, but proud enough about their stupidity to announce it to the entire world. They can look at the evidence and not see the truth, they can hear logic and reason and willingly turn away from it. They are so proud of their stupidity that they announce it, tweet about it, go on TV and tell it to everyone, and turn a blind eye to what the facts are.

This includes are moron president, who thinks that the justice system is broken.

We are doomed, I pity the young.

The system is broken. The system targets blacks and minorities a lot more than whites.

Drug use among the races are very similar but black and hispanics make up the majority of the arrests for possession. Why is that?

No, it isn't broken nit wit. Unless you can prove that there are innocent blacks in jail on no evidence then you are talking out of your ass. If there are more blacks in prison it's because more blacks commit crimes. Put down the bong and join us in reality. Or just continue to be stupid.

Did the blacks and Hispanics commit the crimes or not? Were they possessing the drugs or not? You are whining about people who committ crimes being in jail idiot.

Yes it is if they are RACIALLY TARGETING blacks more than they are whites. That's the whole point that you fail to understand. They won't target the white, more well off people but the poorer minorities because people LIKE YOU will not care that they are being unfairly targeted as long as it's not your family. Which leads to them stopping and harassing more blacks which leads to conflicts which leads to Michael Brown situations all the time.

It's the targeting of a certain minority because it's "easier" and people will not care about their rights or listen to their side of the story (Like you have done throughout this thread). So yeah for you, the system isn't broken because you rather them bust the black kids than the white ones.

Put the bong down moron, this isn't about your mistaken belief that the system is unfair, it's about Mike Brown assaulting and attempting to kill a cop.

The worthless thug is dead, the cop is free, justice reins.

That weed is killing your brain cell doofus.

 

[healthmyths]

The first step in your last sentence means that you have to determine wrong-doing.

We have determined that the officer has done nothing wrong to warrant punishment.
This is how the system works.

Now, the wrong-doers out there burning buildings, stealing property, and attacking police ARE doing wrong. Care to express the outrage for these wrongs?

But that is precisely the issue is that the SYSTEM did work and that's the problem. Once again, the cops get off with no punishment and are back out on the streets. The system disregards any black person witnessing a crime and believes only the cop. There was no cross-examination of his testimony, just accepted it at face value as 100% true when this is the person TRYING TO GET OFF FOR MURDER. Yeah he is totally going to tell the truth that everything he did was completely right.

It's not the "stupidity of this magnitude", it's your failure to realize that black people are treated differently by police simply because they are black. They are viewed as liars, not credible and not worth of due process. That's the viewpoint. They are afraid of the police because they bully them and use force, even deadly force, for situations that do not call for it.

You don't understand because YOU don't live in their world, experience what they experience, see what they see. So how is it "stupid" for a black person to tell us how it feels to live in their community?

Did you read the 100s of pages of testimony? If not you are doing just what the Democrat Prosecutor stated...making totally unsubstantiated 3rd,4th party observations!
And this crap about blacks being bullied! Bull shit!
Where are the demostrations about the black COP that shot the white guy in Utah? See any of the rest of us burning down stores?

So are black people not racially profiled by police and treated differently by them? Because if you truly believe that, you are pretty naive.

Of course they are profiled! Dumb f...k!
AND why not?
Statistics!
It is the FACTS that as a percentage of their population blacks as a group have more criminals then any other ethnic group.
Here are the numbers:
View attachment 34351
Crime in the United States - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

So why else would there be a "stereotype" given that 7% of Blacks are arrested whereas less then 3% of Whites are arrested.
Given a "stereotype" is based on experiences OR the facts, in this case the FACTS are no matter how you parse, context,try to explain...
7% of all blacks are arrested. less the 3% of all Whites are arrested.

Could that be because they are targeting the more vulnerable (ie. poorer) person who is in possession of crack rather than go after the hedge fund manager's son who is in possession of cocaine because of ease of prosecution?

AGAIN with the hyperbole! HOW MANY F...kIng HEDGE funds are there? Then how many managers are there? Then how many hedge fund managers have sons?

Do you guys understand how statistics work?

They are NOT based on one offs. On hyperbolic statements like yours!

GEEZ no wonder you guys belong to the sobriquet "stupidity of American voters"!
I really laugh my head at how totally dumb comments like yours are just on the shear fallacy of the numbers!
but here are some real numbers to match your stupid hyperbole!!
Morningstar's hedge fund database contains data on 7,000 actively reporting funds from more than 3,700 managers.
Morningstar offers historical information on more than 12,000 dead hedge funds.
Morningstar U.S. Hedge Fund Database - Overview

 

[JFK_USA]

But that is precisely the issue is that the SYSTEM did work and that's the problem. Once again, the cops get off with no punishment and are back out on the streets. The system disregards any black person witnessing a crime and believes only the cop. There was no cross-examination of his testimony, just accepted it at face value as 100% true when this is the person TRYING TO GET OFF FOR MURDER. Yeah he is totally going to tell the truth that everything he did was completely right.

It's not the "stupidity of this magnitude", it's your failure to realize that black people are treated differently by police simply because they are black. They are viewed as liars, not credible and not worth of due process. That's the viewpoint. They are afraid of the police because they bully them and use force, even deadly force, for situations that do not call for it.

You don't understand because YOU don't live in their world, experience what they experience, see what they see. So how is it "stupid" for a black person to tell us how it feels to live in their community?

Did you read the 100s of pages of testimony? If not you are doing just what the Democrat Prosecutor stated...making totally unsubstantiated 3rd,4th party observations!
And this crap about blacks being bullied! Bull shit!
Where are the demostrations about the black COP that shot the white guy in Utah? See any of the rest of us burning down stores?

So are black people not racially profiled by police and treated differently by them? Because if you truly believe that, you are pretty naive.

Of course they are profiled! Dumb f...k!
AND why not?
Statistics!
It is the FACTS that as a percentage of their population blacks as a group have more criminals then any other ethnic group.
Here are the numbers:
View attachment 34351
Crime in the United States - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

So why else would there be a "stereotype" given that 7% of Blacks are arrested whereas less then 3% of Whites are arrested.
Given a "stereotype" is based on experiences OR the facts, in this case the FACTS are no matter how you parse, context,try to explain...
7% of all blacks are arrested. less the 3% of all Whites are arrested.

Could that be because they are targeting the more vulnerable (ie. poorer) person who is in possession of crack rather than go after the hedge fund manager's son who is in possession of cocaine because of ease of prosecution?

AGAIN with the hyperbole! HOW MANY F...kIng HEDGE funds are there? Then how many managers are there? Then how many hedge fund managers have sons?

Do you guys understand how statistics work?

They are NOT based on one offs. On hyperbolic statements like yours!

GEEZ no wonder you guys belong to the sobriquet "stupidity of American voters"!
I really laugh my head at how totally dumb comments like yours are just on the shear fallacy of the numbers!
but here are some real numbers to match your stupid hyperbole!!
Morningstar's hedge fund database contains data on 7,000 actively reporting funds from more than 3,700 managers.
Morningstar offers historical information on more than 12,000 dead hedge funds.
Morningstar U.S. Hedge Fund Database - Overview

Yeah statistics can manipulated to give an intended result. But your deflection is duly noted that you have no response because you know it's true and you don't want to admit it because you would lose the argument. It's proven that they target poorer minorities instead of the more well-off whites. It's the truth. I'm sorry you fail to see that.

 

[JFK_USA]

So how are we as a nation, supposed to survive this kind if stupidity? People who are not just stupid, but proud enough about their stupidity to announce it to the entire world. They can look at the evidence and not see the truth, they can hear logic and reason and willingly turn away from it. They are so proud of their stupidity that they announce it, tweet about it, go on TV and tell it to everyone, and turn a blind eye to what the facts are.

This includes are moron president, who thinks that the justice system is broken.

We are doomed, I pity the young.

The system is broken. The system targets blacks and minorities a lot more than whites.

Drug use among the races are very similar but black and hispanics make up the majority of the arrests for possession. Why is that?

No, it isn't broken nit wit. Unless you can prove that there are innocent blacks in jail on no evidence then you are talking out of your ass. If there are more blacks in prison it's because more blacks commit crimes. Put down the bong and join us in reality. Or just continue to be stupid.

Did the blacks and Hispanics commit the crimes or not? Were they possessing the drugs or not? You are whining about people who committ crimes being in jail idiot.

Yes it is if they are RACIALLY TARGETING blacks more than they are whites. That's the whole point that you fail to understand. They won't target the white, more well off people but the poorer minorities because people LIKE YOU will not care that they are being unfairly targeted as long as it's not your family. Which leads to them stopping and harassing more blacks which leads to conflicts which leads to Michael Brown situations all the time.

It's the targeting of a certain minority because it's "easier" and people will not care about their rights or listen to their side of the story (Like you have done throughout this thread). So yeah for you, the system isn't broken because you rather them bust the black kids than the white ones.

Put the bong down moron, this isn't about your mistaken belief that the system is unfair, it's about Mike Brown assaulting and attempting to kill a cop.

The worthless thug is dead, the cop is free, justice reins.

That weed is killing your brain cell doofus.

Ad hominem isn't working for you bro and if you don't think the culture of racial targeting by police officers and complete hostility to African Americans didn't play a role in this incident, you're very naive.

 

[JFK_USA]

Just admit you hate black people just because they are black healthmyths, it's quite obvious.

 

[healthmyths]

Did you read the 100s of pages of testimony? If not you are doing just what the Democrat Prosecutor stated...making totally unsubstantiated 3rd,4th party observations!
And this crap about blacks being bullied! Bull shit!
Where are the demostrations about the black COP that shot the white guy in Utah? See any of the rest of us burning down stores?

So are black people not racially profiled by police and treated differently by them? Because if you truly believe that, you are pretty naive.

Of course they are profiled! Dumb f...k!
AND why not?
Statistics!
It is the FACTS that as a percentage of their population blacks as a group have more criminals then any other ethnic group.
Here are the numbers:
View attachment 34351
Crime in the United States - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

So why else would there be a "stereotype" given that 7% of Blacks are arrested whereas less then 3% of Whites are arrested.
Given a "stereotype" is based on experiences OR the facts, in this case the FACTS are no matter how you parse, context,try to explain...
7% of all blacks are arrested. less the 3% of all Whites are arrested.

Could that be because they are targeting the more vulnerable (ie. poorer) person who is in possession of crack rather than go after the hedge fund manager's son who is in possession of cocaine because of ease of prosecution?

AGAIN with the hyperbole! HOW MANY F...kIng HEDGE funds are there? Then how many managers are there? Then how many hedge fund managers have sons?

Do you guys understand how statistics work?

They are NOT based on one offs. On hyperbolic statements like yours!

GEEZ no wonder you guys belong to the sobriquet "stupidity of American voters"!
I really laugh my head at how totally dumb comments like yours are just on the shear fallacy of the numbers!
but here are some real numbers to match your stupid hyperbole!!
Morningstar's hedge fund database contains data on 7,000 actively reporting funds from more than 3,700 managers.
Morningstar offers historical information on more than 12,000 dead hedge funds.
Morningstar U.S. Hedge Fund Database - Overview

Yeah statistics can manipulated to give an intended result. But your deflection is duly noted that you have no response because you know it's true and you don't want to admit it because you would lose the argument. It's proven that they target poorer minorities instead of the more well-off whites. It's the truth. I'm sorry you fail to see that.

NO it's not a deflection it is the FACTS!
HOW many f...king hedge fund managers' sons are there? Dummy!
That's why guys like you make up the "stupidity of American voters" club!
YOU jump conclusions, based on zero facts and get so worked up over NOTHING!
FACTS...
Read what THIS BLACK MAN THINKS...

CNN) -- Charles Barkley hasn't met a sensitive topic he couldn't dig into, and now he's speaking on what he calls a "dirty, dark secret" in the African-American community.

During an interview with a Philadelphia radio station, Barkley expounded on claims that Seattle Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson wasn't liked by some of his teammates in part because he wasn't considered to be "black enough."
Barkley said he wasn't at all surprised.
"There are a lot of black people who are unintelligent, who don't have success,"
Barkley said. "It's best to knock a successful black person down 'cause they're intelligent,
they speak well, they do well in school, and they're successful. It's crabs in a barrel. ...

We're the only ethnic group that says, 'hey, if you go to jail, it gives you street cred.' "
The concept of "crabs in a barrel" isn't new, and it's universal. If you've ever seen a bucket of crabs at the market, the ones at the bottom will try to pull down the crabs that are closer to the top.
Charles Barkley Brainwashed blacks hold up success - CNN.com

So you are repeating that stereotype Barkley describes and making excuses thus approving of the meme... "go to jail gives you street cred"?

 

[healthmyths]

Just admit you hate black people just because they are black healthmyths, it's quite obvious.

Right... I had a black cousin in the 50s in Iowa... my cousin Andre......hahaa!
Moved to Texas in the 70s had a black business partner and good friend... yea really hated him!
Worked at a major company with a black boss... then In Tampa FL with another black boss!
Right I'm such a racist!
Actually the real racists are people like you that have to constantly excuse the "poor blacks"... Again most of the successful blacks I've met (Herman Cain) who I supported for presidency, Dr. Ben Carson, J.C. Watts, all never made excuses it was because I was black!
It actually made them better then me in some ways as they really understand the value of being on time, on the job minor details many people seem to ignore BUT are important to getting jobs keeping jobs and building your resume...i.e. again look at those blacks that you call "Uncle Toms" ... because they act and are more successfully as Barkley said want to drag people down rather then lift them up!

At the minimum my racist attitude is minimal compared to those people who ONLY voted for Obama because he was BLACK and didn't want to be thought of as racist! Again... Gruber totally hit those people on the head including people like you...Obama and other race baiters, Sharpton etc... all depend on the
"Stupidity of the American voter"...stupidity like what you display by saying i hate black people!

 

[JFK_USA]

Most people knew Obamacare would need taxes to survive so how is a law needing taxes being stupid?

 

[healthmyths]

Most people knew Obamacare would need taxes to survive so how is a law needing taxes being stupid?

At a town hall meeting where he campaigned for health care legislation in 2009, President Barack Obama pledged to voters that he did not want any tax on health insurance plans he perceived as wastefully generous to ever impact average Americans.
But in recent comments by one of the men who helped draft the legislation, MIT economist Jonathan Gruber, that is not only precisely what will happen -- but that was the intention of the tax.

In one of the videos that surfaced in recent days in which the man described by the Obama campaign as having helped to write Obamacare describes the many ways voters he calls stupid were easily misled about the bill by those pushing it, Gruber says the Cadillac tax will do exactly what the president pledged it would not -- dissuade employers in general from providing insurance for its employees.

"Economists have called for 40 years to get rid of the regressive, inefficient and expensive tax subsidy provided for employer provider health insurance," Gruber said at the Pioneer Institute for public policy research in Boston in 2011. The subsidy is "terrible policy," Gruber said.

"It turns out politically it's really hard to get rid of," Gruber said.

You can watch the full remarks here.

Gruber said the only way those pushing for Obamacare could get rid of the tax subsidy for employer provider health insurance was to tax the more generous, or Cadillac, plans -- "mislabeling it, calling it a tax on insurance plans rather than a tax on people when we all know it's a tax on people who hold those insurance plans."
Jonathan Gruber quotes contradict Obama promise - CNN.com

Remember you are one of those people lumped together when he said it was "stupidity of american voters" to believe in Obama's pledge..PLEDGE..
" I pledge we’ll lower premiums by up to $2,500 for a typical family per year….. We’ll do it by the end of my first term as President of the United States. If you like your health care plan, you can keep it. If you like the doctor you have, you can keep your doctor, too."

So come on you people seem to be the ONLY ones to comprehend that Obama/Gruber KNEW they were pulling something over your eyes
when Gruber said they relied on the "stupidity of the American Voter"! Do you see at all how Obama/Gruber/et.al. made fun of you?
Realized they could say ANYTHING and you'd believe it?

 

[HenryBHough]

If they can't get a conviction against Wilson they'll bankrupt him and his family with a series of trumpted-up civil cases costing millions to defend against.

Justice?

Yeah, we used to have a federal agency with that word in its name.

Used to.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Cops should not be able to kill unarmed people without consequence. From the evidence released, I believe it should have gone to trial.

Bullshit.

This is ALL about politics to you. Show me a single time you've been outraged about a white person being shot by a cop.