Can a near death experience be created under "laboratory" conditions?

[DennisPTate]

Extreme gravity devices that are used to train fighter jet pilots seem to induce near death experiences.

If this is true then it seems that these events can be induced under what could be thought of as "laboratory conditions?"


This research could help us to know more about the afterlife and about the true nature of human consciousness.

1. About Dr. James Whinnery​

The scientific method requires a phenomenon to be able to be reproducible under laboratory conditions for it to be declared a “real” phenomenon. In the early days, near-death experiences were thought by some to be just “phantom” visions and nothing more than imagination. But then Dr. James E. Whinnery, a chemistry professor with West Texas A&M, became involved with research involving fighter pilots being subjected to extreme gravitational forces in a giant centrifuge to simulate the extreme conditions that can occur during aerial combat maneuvering. Strangely enough, it turns out that under extreme g-forces, fighter pilots lose consciousness (known as “G-LOC“) and have a near-death experience.


Whinnery wrote a technical report for the National Institute for Discovery Science about the phenomenon and in doing so proved the near-death experience to be a real phenomenon. Dr. Whinnery published his study, Psychophysiologic Correlates of Unconsciousness and Near-Death Experiences (PDF), in the Journal of Near-Death Studies. The following is a summary of his technical report of how NDEs are triggered by severe gravitational forces.

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[MarathonMike]

Yes they did it in the movie Flatliners.

 

[DennisPTate]

Yes they did it in the movie Flatliners.

Good point!

Hopefully the jet fighter pilots had a more positive and inspiring experience.

 

[Concerned American]

Extreme gravity devices that are used to train fighter jet pilots seem to induce near death experiences.

If this is true then it seems that these events can be induced under what could be thought of as "laboratory conditions?"


This research could help us to know more about the afterlife and about the true nature of human consciousness.

 

[toobfreak]

Can a near death experience be created under "laboratory" conditions?​

They actually reportedly seem to have had some success in this area by exposing the sleeper's brain to magnetic or EM fields.

 

[DennisPTate]

They actually reportedly seem to have had some success in this area by exposing the sleeper's brain to magnetic or EM fields.

I wonder if the near death experiences that are produced in this way will have similar effects as what was found in other types of NDE?

Reports are highly consistent and common: "I understand things so much more" and "My senses all seem heightened." Subjects claim "sudden knowledge and comprehension of complex mathematical theorems." Psychologist Ring has identified a consistent set of value and belief changes. They include:

a greater appreciation for life


o higher self-esteem

o greater compassion for others

o a heightened sense of purpose and self-understanding

o desire to learn

o elevated spirituality

o greater ecological sensitivity and planetary concern

o a feeling of being more intuitive, sometimes psychic.

o He also observes "psychophysical changes," including:


o increased physical sensitivity

o diminished tolerance to light, alcohol, and drugs

o a feeling that their brains have been "altered" to encompass more

o a feeling that they are now using their "whole brain" rather than just a small part.

NDErs undergo radical changes in personality, and their significant others—spouses, friends, relatives—confirm these changes, reports Bruce Greyson, M.D., clinical psychiatrist and associate professor at the University of Connecticut. Like Sappington, he is concerned with what can be learned from such new outlooks on life.

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Offers a look at near-death experiences-- How they have become psychology's newest cottage industry and questions how real they are.

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[toobfreak]

I wonder if the near death experiences that are produced in this way will have similar effects as what was found in other types of NDE?

The reported experiences are similar, the problem is that you have two different groups I believe and not often the same people who experienced both and can easily compare them directly. And there isn't a large sampling of people known to have NDEs that the lab can bring into these studies.

The other problem is how do you explain near-death when most all people having these experiences initially were not subject to EMI fields when it happened.

On the surface, it appears that medical science is looking to find a rational, clinical explanation for these experiences that doesn't actually involve anything religious, mystical or supernatural, but useful research on how the brain works may come out of it.

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[Robert W]

I wonder if the near death experiences that are produced in this way will have similar effects as what was found in other types of NDE?

Atheists confirm when they have NDE that God and heaven exists.

 

[DennisPTate]

Atheists confirm when they have NDE that God and heaven exists.

And often they have a massive transformation in how they behave toward others afterwards, which is evidence that they did not think that their near death experience was some kind of hallucination.

 

[DennisPTate]

The reported experiences are similar, the problem is that you have two different groups I believe and not often the same people who experienced both and can easily compare them directly. And there isn't a large sampling of people known to have NDEs that the lab can bring into these studies.

The other problem is how do you explain near-death when most all people having these experiences initially were not subject to EMI fields when it happened.

On the surface, it appears that medical science is looking to find a rational, clinical explanation for these experiences that doesn't actually involve anything religious, mystical or supernatural, but useful research on how the brain works may come out of it.

See attachment.

Those power surges that happen around some near death experiencers is interesting. That sounds a lot like String Theory to me.

The only drawback of the theory concerns the extra dimension. Why
don't we see it? An ingenious answer was provided by Oskar Klein. A
hosepipe viewed from afar looks like a wiggly line, i.e. one- dimensional.
However, on closer inspection it can be seen as a narrow tube. It is, in fact,
two-dimensional, and what was taken to be a point on the line is actually a
little circle going around the tube. In the same way, reasoned Klein, what we normally regard as a point in three dimensional space could in reality be a little circle going around a fourth space dimension. Thus Kaluza's extra
dimension might well exist, but be impossible to detect because it is closed
(circular) and rolled up to a very small circumference. In spite of
these bizarre overtones, it seems probable that in future a "theory of everything" will make use of the idea of unseen higher dimensions."

"Although nature manifests four distinct forces, physicists believe that
each may be part of a smaller number of more primitive forces. At high energy, the electromagnetic and weak forces appear to merge into a single "electroweak" force. Some "grand unified theories" suggest that a further amalgamation takes place between the electroweak and strong forces at as yet unattained energies. The most ambitious unification schemes envisage an amalgamation of all four forces into a single "superforce" at ultra-high levels of energy."

...

"The real burden in the next three centuries will not be the development of fancy mathematics, but the experimental testing of these ambitious theories. All current thinking about total unification assumes that the effects of linking all the forces and particles together will only become manifest at energies that are some trillion times greater than those currently attainable in particle accelerators. Probably we shall never reach such energies directly" ( A Theory of Everything" Volume 21 of "The World of Science)