California: State of Insurrection

[buckeye]

Deportations and Due Process: Comparing Obama and Trump Policies

Introduction Deportations have long sparked debate in the U.S., especially over whether immigrants get fair legal treatment. During Barack Obama’s presidency (2009–2016), about 3.2 million people were formally deported, while Donald Trump’s current policies, as of 2025, face heavy criticism for...

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Due Process Under Obama

A major issue was the lack of due process. About 75–83% of deportations were nonjudicial, meaning they skipped immigration court. In 2012, roughly 313,000 of 419,000 deportations happened without a judge’s review, according to ACLU data. These “expedited removals” often left immigrants without lawyers or a chance to appeal. For example, many long-term U.S. residents were deported after minor offenses, with no opportunity to argue their case. Critics said this violated fairness, while defenders claimed it was efficient for border security.

 

[JoeB131]

No more than your quips about my employment status and mental health are, Joe.

But do presume to lecture others about proper debate etiquette.

Twinkie, I feel sad for you most of the time.

For some reason, you allign yourself with people who don't give a shit about you personally.

How are we talking about autism on a thread about the LA riots?

Um, because Trump put an anti-Vax Nut in charge of HHS. So we are probably going to have a second round of Plague to go with Trump's second helpings of riots and recession.

 

[JoeB131]

Deportations and Due Process: Comparing Obama and Trump Policies

Introduction Deportations have long sparked debate in the U.S., especially over whether immigrants get fair legal treatment. During Barack Obama’s presidency (2009–2016), about 3.2 million people were formally deported, while Donald Trump’s current policies, as of 2025, face heavy criticism for...

www.voicesheardfoundation.org

Due Process Under Obama

A major issue was the lack of due process. About 75–83% of deportations were nonjudicial, meaning they skipped immigration court. In 2012, roughly 313,000 of 419,000 deportations happened without a judge’s review, according to ACLU data. These “expedited removals” often left immigrants without lawyers or a chance to appeal. For example, many long-term U.S. residents were deported after minor offenses, with no opportunity to argue their case. Critics said this violated fairness, while defenders claimed it was efficient for border security.

Except these were done at the border, which is what you guys whined about, that he wasn't going after people in the interior of the country.

Trump is going after people who have been granted legal status, have been here for years, have families, because he can't find the criminal aliens he claimed that he was going to go after.

 

[JoeB131]

Yes, it's insane Trump escalated simple law enforcement into riots--- again.

Hey, remember when we had 1992 Riots in LA? George H. Bush didn't escalate; he de-escalated the situation.

 

[JoeB131]

Hey Moron, if less than 40% voted for Trump and Trump still overwhelmingly won, killing the EC, winning all 7 swing states AND taking the popular vote with millions to spare, that just means that even fewer, far fewer than 40% voted for Kamela Harris.

Bottom line is that the overwhelming majority of voters selected Trump.

If some voted for him because Harris was a total POC, then even better.

Uh, it was 49.5%. That isn't overwealming.

Nixon won 60% of the vote, but they still threw him out when he broke the law.

 

[the watcher]

Plenty of room at the Brotel California

 

[Frankenstein]

No, that may be why YOU voted for him but America was voting for stability and professionalism. What we got was a manchild with a propensity to have temper tantrums about anything and everything.

What we voted for was a secure border and immigration laws being followed which includes deportations. We got a Leader who doesn't screw around and allow insurrection by foriegners

 

[buckeye]

Trump is going after people who have been granted legal status, have been here for years, have families, because he can't find the criminal aliens he claimed that he was going to go after.

Show proof of Trump going after people that have been granted legal status. And Obama did all the other stuff, too.

Why did you support Obama doing exactly what Trump is trying to do?

 

[Dragonlady]

What we voted for was a secure border and immigration laws being followed which includes deportations. We got a Leader who doesn't screw around and allow insurrection by foriegners

WHILE TRUMP IS TELLING THE WORLD, THEY HAVE TO BUILD PLANTS AND MANUFACTURE IN THE USA, HE'S SENDING IN THE MARINES TO QUELL WHAT HE CLAIMS IS AN "INSURRECTION".

WHAT EUROPEAN OR ASIAN CORPORATION IS GOING TO INVEST HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON DOING ANYTHING IN THE USA IF YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF AN INVASION OR AN INSURRECTION??

SAY GOODBYE TO THE BOND MARKET, AND THE USA DOLLAR BEING THE WORLD'S BASE CURRENCY.

 

[JoeB131]

Show proof of Trump going after people that have been granted legal status. And Obama did all the other stuff, too.

Why did you support Obama doing exactly what Trump is trying to do?

I don't remember Obama doing any of the stuff Trump is doing.

But that you have to say, "But Obama" shows that you know TACO is screwing this up.

 

[buckeye]

I don't remember Obama doing any of the stuff Trump is doing.

Which proves nothing.

75-83% of the deported illegals received no due process under Obama. That's a fact, your memory notwithstanding.

 

[JoeB131]

Which proves nothing.

75-83% of the deported illegals received no due process under Obama. That's a fact, your memory notwithstanding.

Those were ones captured at the border.

not ones who lived here for years, were previously granted residency, and were rounded up by masked stormtroopers from their homes.

This is not America.

 

[SeaMajor7]

WHILE TRUMP IS TELLING THE WORLD, THEY HAVE TO BUILD PLANTS AND MANUFACTURE IN THE USA, HE'S SENDING IN THE MARINES TO QUELL WHAT HE CLAIMS IS AN "INSURRECTION".

WHAT EUROPEAN OR ASIAN CORPORATION IS GOING TO INVEST HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON DOING ANYTHING IN THE USA IF YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF AN INVASION OR AN INSURRECTION??

SAY GOODBYE TO THE BOND MARKET, AND THE USA DOLLAR BEING THE WORLD'S BASE CURRENCY.

TAKE OFF, YOU HOSER!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[candycorn]

California declared war when the started attacking ICE agents.

Newsom should be arresting their asses and disbursing the rioters.

If he has any balls, he needs and ESM to find them.

So on 1/6 when you guys attacked 140 cops...were you declaring war?

Are you really this fucking stupid?

 

[The Duke]

WHILE TRUMP IS TELLING THE WORLD, THEY HAVE TO BUILD PLANTS AND MANUFACTURE IN THE USA, HE'S SENDING IN THE MARINES TO QUELL WHAT HE CLAIMS IS AN "INSURRECTION".

WHAT EUROPEAN OR ASIAN CORPORATION IS GOING TO INVEST HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON DOING ANYTHING IN THE USA IF YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF AN INVASION OR AN INSURRECTION??

SAY GOODBYE TO THE BOND MARKET, AND THE USA DOLLAR BEING THRepostE WORLD'S BASE CURRENCY.

Maybe in your wet dreams, Commie Princess, but no.
Also Chinese will be divested of almost all land in America.
A fair market price will be paid, but they gotta go. Smithfield, too.
That never should have happened.
China will be just fine, and so will the US.

 

[MagicMike]

The government is obligated to protect against threats, both foreign and domestic.

Guess what this qualifies as, genius?

Where are are the Second Amendment people who have been stockpiling guns for years preparing for exactly what is happening right now in LA; guvmint tyranny and oppression?
Isn't this EXACTLY what the NRA has been telling you people you need to arm yourself in preparation for?
To resist in the event your own government snaps and begins violating the very rights of the citizens that it is sopposed to be protecting?
WHERE is this (supposedly) "well trained militia" now?
--crickets--

 

[Dragonlady]

Maybe in your wet dreams, Commie Princess, but no.
Also Chinese will be divested of almost all land in America.
A fair market price will be paid, but they gotta go. Smithfield, too.
That never should have happened.
China will be just fine, and so will the US.

No you won't. I don't think you realize the extent to which the rest of the world no longer trusts you or your government, and with good reason.

 

[martybegan]

Where are are the Second Amendment people who have been stockpiling guns for years preparing for exactly what is happening right now in LA; guvmint tyranny and oppression?
Isn't this EXACTLY what the NRA has been telling you people you need to arm yourself in preparation for?
To resist in the event your own government snaps and begins violating the very rights of the citizens that it is sopposed to be protecting?
WHERE is this (supposedly) "well trained militia" now?
--crickets--

Why do you think they are doing this in LA and not in rural central CA?

 

[Dragonlady]

The government is obligated to protect against threats, both foreign and domestic.

Guess what this qualifies as, genius?

You're correct. But the problem here is that you've elected a lawless criminal as President, and he's running amok.

Who is going to protect your from the criminal President?

 

[SeaMajor7]

Where are are the Second Amendment people who have been stockpiling guns for years preparing for exactly what is happening right now in LA; guvmint tyranny and oppression?
Isn't this EXACTLY what the NRA has been telling you people you need to arm yourself in preparation for?
To resist in the event your own government snaps and begins violating the very rights of the citizens that it is sopposed to be protecting?
WHERE is this (supposedly) "well trained militia" now?
--crickets--

Your PROJECTION of how normal Americans view their right to bear arms is just ANOTHER fucking retarded NARRATIVE that you zombies rely on to further your fairytales of what we're about.

And not for nothing.......that avatar.
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Pathetic.