CA Sheriff says voting records show people from outside the country vote in California elections, including Pakistan

[DonGlock26]

Thank goodness they didn't have to show ID to vote. That would have been embarassing.
They just identify as California voters and we have to respect that.

 

[leftwinger]

Exactly what I have been saying since 2018-2024. Rampant fraud. You can register online, just checking boxes. Yes I am a citizen, yes I lived in Santa Clara last 30 days. Any address, no ID. I walked thru registration from another state making stuff up it up to the final clicks and backed out.

Maybe they "stop" some of them but unlikely? Mail ballots flood out or come back undeliverable for harvesting if needed. Just like the 2020 stolen election.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

American citizens living overseas can vote. Just wait until thousands of Chinese born here and have never lived here vote.

 

[DonGlock26]

American citizens living overseas can vote. Just wait until thousands of Chinese born here and have never lived here vote.

We need to end that anchor baby bullshit.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Exactly what I have been saying since 2018-2024. Rampant fraud. You can register online, just checking boxes. Yes I am a citizen, yes I lived in Santa Clara last 30 days. Any address, no ID. I walked thru registration from another state making stuff up it up to the final clicks and backed out.

Maybe they "stop" some of them but unlikely? Mail ballots flood out or come back undeliverable for harvesting if needed. Just like the 2020 stolen election.

You know we have these things called computers which runs software called databases that allow for instant status checks on information.

Mail in ballot packages are bar/QR codes to a specific individual. In the ballot package the individual must provide other PII (Personal Identifying Information) and for any returned ballot package the PII on the returned ballot is cross checked against (a) the person the ballot was issued to, (b) the current vote status of the individual, and (c) sets a vote pass/fail status.

That means for a mail in ballot to be processed it must match the requestor AND the system checks that the individual has not already voted (in person, early, etc.). If a conflict arrises the ballot is kicked out and turned over to a supervisor for investigation, but under no circumstances are both the in-person and mail in ballot counted.

WW

 

[Darkwind]

We have also learned why Minnesota is reliably blue.

Illan Omar and her merry band of fraudsters will take refugees and other illegals to voter registrtions and use the "buddy" system in which one person can vouch for up to eight other individuals.

They will register those eight people using the same exact address. Then the next eight get to use that address too and so on and so on.

Our elections should never be based on the honor system. Proof of citizenship is the ONLY acceptable registration in the form of a government issued document.

The problem with the Minnesota government is that they are in on the scheme.

 

[WorldWatcher]

We have also learned why Minnesota is reliably blue.

Illan Omar and her merry band of fraudsters will take refugees and other illegals to voter registrtions and use the "buddy" system in which one person can vouch for up to eight other individuals.

They will register those eight people using the same exact address. Then the next eight get to use that address too and so on and so on.

Our elections should never be based on the honor system. Proof of citizenship is the ONLY acceptable registration in the form of a government issued document.

The problem with the Minnesota government is that they are in on the scheme.

We shouldn't have to "register" at all, the current system is outdated.

WW

 

[DonGlock26]

You know we have these things called computers which runs software called databases that allow for instant status checks on information.

Mail in ballot packages are bar/QR codes to a specific individual. In the ballot package the individual must provide other PII (Personal Identifying Information) and for any returned ballot package the PII on the returned ballot is cross checked against (a) the person the ballot was issued to, (b) the current vote status of the individual, and (c) sets a vote pass/fail status.

That means for a mail in ballot to be processed it must match the requestor AND the system checks that the individual has not already voted (in person, early, etc.). If a conflict arrises the ballot is kicked out and turned over to a supervisor for investigation, but under no circumstances are both the in-person and mail in ballot counted.

WW

So California’s citizens can just check these databases to ensure fair elections?

 

[WorldWatcher]

So California’s citizens can just check these databases to ensure fair elections?

Citizens can check the database on their own status us.

State election officers though are the ones that administer the databases as a function of population.

Think it though, do you really want individuals to access YOUR election information and demographics?

No, the government is required to keep that information private.

Why just California? Why not Alabama, Kansas, Florida, etc. So that any individual anywhere in the Untied States can access the PII (Personnal Identifiable Information) for any other individual in the country. That shouldn't have any negative consequences.

People need to think through what they ask for, they just might get it and not like the results.

WW

 

[leftwinger]

You know we have these things called computers which runs software called databases that allow for instant status checks on information.

Mail in ballot packages are bar/QR codes to a specific individual. In the ballot package the individual must provide other PII (Personal Identifying Information) and for any returned ballot package the PII on the returned ballot is cross checked against (a) the person the ballot was issued to, (b) the current vote status of the individual, and (c) sets a vote pass/fail status.

That means for a mail in ballot to be processed it must match the requestor AND the system checks that the individual has not already voted (in person, early, etc.). If a conflict arrises the ballot is kicked out and turned over to a supervisor for investigation, but under no circumstances are both the in-person and mail in ballot counted.

WW

Nice try. A lot of BS in there. And all rules can be different state to state. Wake up//

 

[leftwinger]

We shouldn't have to "register" at all, the current system is outdated.

WW

Either that or show up day of with a real legal picture ID.

 

[leftwinger]

Citizens can check the database on their own status us.

State election officers though are the ones that administer the databases as a function of population.

Think it though, do you really want individuals to access YOUR election information and demographics?

No, the government is required to keep that information private.

Why just California? Why not Alabama, Kansas, Florida, etc. So that any individual anywhere in the Untied States can access the PII (Personnal Identifiable Information) for any other individual in the country. That shouldn't have any negative consequences.

People need to think through what they ask for, they just might get it and not like the results.

WW

Just stuff it. We already know NGO register illegals by the truckload as the arrive. They dont even know what they boxes or forms they are checking in most cases. Just give me EBT card. Many admitted they did it again in another state as they got settled...yes more EBT cards. Pre loaded Visa with $4K on it.

 

[Darkwind]

We shouldn't have to "register" at all, the current system is outdated.

WW

1000% disagree.

If you don't care who votes, then the first order of business is that each State and the Federal Government stops handing out taxpayer money to people.

Until then, the ONLY people who should have a say in how our country acts and survives are Citizens.

There is no honor system because frankly, our nation no longer teaches honor. They teach Marxism.

 

[WorldWatcher]

1000% disagree.

If you don't care who votes, then the first order of business is that each State and the Federal Government stops handing out taxpayer money to people.

Until then, the ONLY people who should have a say in how our country acts and survives are Citizens.

There is no honor system because frankly, our nation no longer teaches honor. They teach Marxism.

Where did I say "I don't care about who votes".

Voting in federal election should be 100% only done by citizens. Think the current "registration" system is hap hazard and out of date says NOTHING about who should vote. As a matter of fact I support Voter ID laws (with some conditions). So slow down a little please.

TL;DR Answser - because the government already knows all the citizens eligible to vote.

To explain.
.
.
.
PREMISE:

The current model of “voter” registration is a carryover from the British system established during the birth of our country and was based on a time when:

• The main mode of transportation was shanks mare (feet)
• Cargo was moved by horse drawn wagons
• It could take days and multiple riders for information to travel from the State Capital to any point in the state and weeks if information needed to move from one end of the country to another (say Maine to Florida). As the country expanded that time could be measured in months (east coast to west coast).

During those times the idea of “Voter Registration” being localized made sense as the vast majority of the population was born, lived, and died in the same 100 mile circle.

That time is passed, we now live in the age of a highly mobile society with instant communications. Hell sitting here on the east coast I can pick up a phone, punch in a few numbers and be talking with my daughter stationed in Japan.

RECOMMENDATION:
Therefore I think it’s time to fundamentally change the core concept of “Voter Registration” from the current model of registering to vote and having to prove you are eligible to being automatically an eligible voter unless the franchised is removed for a reason (felony, death, mental incapacity, etc.).

This fundamental shift from “having to register to vote” to “eligible voter” would be based on the integration of various sources of information into a central clearing house that all states would be required to participate in for election for federal offices. If they decided to maintain a separate parallel system for state/local elections, they would be free to do so.

All eligible citizens are fundamentally considered “registered to vote” as long as they are of the correct age and have not had their franchise removed. So it becomes less a question of “who” is eligible to vote, the only remaining question is “where” they are eligible to vote.

This “Voter Electronic Eligibility Center” system would include:

• Real time access to voter eligibility information via an encrypted secure network to state and local boards of election.
• State and local boards would be able to download voters whose address falls within their jurisdiction.
• State and local officials would have access to querying and updating individual statuses.
• Information would be integrated from various sources which provide input into the system.
• State Department responsible for vital records - births, deaths, etc.
• State Department of Taxation – current address, change of Address
• State Department of Motor Vehicles – current address, change of address
• State Departments of State – Court actions and restoration of franchise after removed by court action
• United States Postal Service – National valid addresses, change of address
• Social Security Administration – births deaths, etc.
• Federal Department of State – naturalization of new citizens
• The various Felony level courts at both the State and Federal level – removal of the franchise via felony conviction

Because of the data integration between the various agencies, the idea “voter eligibility” is shifted. There are no “purging the roles” based on inactivity. All citizens are considered active voters.

Where you vote then becomes a function of your primary legal address (of which you will only have one). If you move, that address change will automatically be fed into the system and your information would be downloaded to the local elections office.

When you are born, you are automatically registered into the system and become “eligible to vote” at your 18th birthday. You just have to wait to get there of course.

If you die, when that death is registered it is automatically communicated to the VEEC making you ineligible to vote.

Now in my humble opinion, it would take 10-15 years for such a system. First you need funding. Then the IT experts and Database geeks are going to have to map out the secure communication systems and data interface software that will function between agencies. Then you are going to need a few years each of “Alpha” and “Beta” testing before it can really go live. But once all the players are in place it could really streamline what we view as “voter registration” making it so much easier for (a) us as individuals and (b) for the voting process in general.

WW

 

[WorldWatcher]

Where did I say "I don't care about who votes".

Voting in federal election should be 100% only done by citizens. Think the current "registration" system is hap hazard and out of date says NOTHING about who should vote. As a matter of fact I support Voter ID laws (with some conditions). So slow down a little please.

TL;DR Answser - because the government already knows all the citizens eligible to vote.

To explain.
.
.
.
PREMISE:

The current model of “voter” registration is a carryover from the British system established during the birth of our country and was based on a time when:

• The main mode of transportation was shanks mare (feet)
• Cargo was moved by horse drawn wagons
• It could take days and multiple riders for information to travel from the State Capital to any point in the state and weeks if information needed to move from one end of the country to another (say Maine to Florida). As the country expanded that time could be measured in months (east coast to west coast).

During those times the idea of “Voter Registration” being localized made sense as the vast majority of the population was born, lived, and died in the same 100 mile circle.

That time is passed, we now live in the age of a highly mobile society with instant communications. Hell sitting here on the east coast I can pick up a phone, punch in a few numbers and be talking with my daughter stationed in Japan.

RECOMMENDATION:
Therefore I think it’s time to fundamentally change the core concept of “Voter Registration” from the current model of registering to vote and having to prove you are eligible to being automatically an eligible voter unless the franchised is removed for a reason (felony, death, mental incapacity, etc.).

This fundamental shift from “having to register to vote” to “eligible voter” would be based on the integration of various sources of information into a central clearing house that all states would be required to participate in for election for federal offices. If they decided to maintain a separate parallel system for state/local elections, they would be free to do so.

All eligible citizens are fundamentally considered “registered to vote” as long as they are of the correct age and have not had their franchise removed. So it becomes less a question of “who” is eligible to vote, the only remaining question is “where” they are eligible to vote.

This “Voter Electronic Eligibility Center” system would include:

• Real time access to voter eligibility information via an encrypted secure network to state and local boards of election.
• State and local boards would be able to download voters whose address falls within their jurisdiction.
• State and local officials would have access to querying and updating individual statuses.
• Information would be integrated from various sources which provide input into the system.
• State Department responsible for vital records - births, deaths, etc.
• State Department of Taxation – current address, change of Address
• State Department of Motor Vehicles – current address, change of address
• State Departments of State – Court actions and restoration of franchise after removed by court action
• United States Postal Service – National valid addresses, change of address
• Social Security Administration – births deaths, etc.
• Federal Department of State – naturalization of new citizens
• The various Felony level courts at both the State and Federal level – removal of the franchise via felony conviction

Because of the data integration between the various agencies, the idea “voter eligibility” is shifted. There are no “purging the roles” based on inactivity. All citizens are considered active voters.

Where you vote then becomes a function of your primary legal address (of which you will only have one). If you move, that address change will automatically be fed into the system and your information would be downloaded to the local elections office.

When you are born, you are automatically registered into the system and become “eligible to vote” at your 18th birthday. You just have to wait to get there of course.

If you die, when that death is registered it is automatically communicated to the VEEC making you ineligible to vote.

Now in my humble opinion, it would take 10-15 years for such a system. First you need funding. Then the IT experts and Database geeks are going to have to map out the secure communication systems and data interface software that will function between agencies. Then you are going to need a few years each of “Alpha” and “Beta” testing before it can really go live. But once all the players are in place it could really streamline what we view as “voter registration” making it so much easier for (a) us as individuals and (b) for the voting process in general.

WW

Just to put that in perspective.

It registration is pre-determined by citizenship status already known about by the government, there would be no "illegal alien" registration.

At which point when it comes to cast you vote, you present a Voter ID to prove identify which is instantly checked against known eligibility.

WW

 

[candycorn]

Exactly what I have been saying since 2018-2024. Rampant fraud. You can register online, just checking boxes. Yes I am a citizen, yes I lived in Santa Clara last 30 days. Any address, no ID. I walked thru registration from another state making stuff up it up to the final clicks and backed out.

Maybe they "stop" some of them but unlikely? Mail ballots flood out or come back undeliverable for harvesting if needed. Just like the 2020 stolen election.

Stop lying.

If you could do that, youd show us.

 

[DonGlock26]

Citizens can check the database on their own status us.

State election officers though are the ones that administer the databases as a function of population.

Think it though, do you really want individuals to access YOUR election information and demographics?

No, the government is required to keep that information private.

Why just California? Why not Alabama, Kansas, Florida, etc. So that any individual anywhere in the Untied States can access the PII (Personnal Identifiable Information) for any other individual in the country. That shouldn't have any negative consequences.

People need to think through what they ask for, they just might get it and not like the results.

WW

So the Democrats decided who they check or don’t check. Sounds like an easy way to cheat. I guess that’s why they set up the system in the first place?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

We need to end that anchor baby bullshit.

It's likely too late now. The Chinese have another plan. They are using surrogates. Pay poor women to be implanted with Chinese babies. The Chinese parents just take their American born children home to be raised as loyal Chinese patriots.

 

[WorldWatcher]

It's likely too late now. The Chinese have another plan. They are using surrogates. Pay poor women to be implanted with Chinese babies. The Chinese parents just take their American born children home to be raised as loyal Chinese patriots.

And their doing it by mail order. No need for them to come here, just send the frozen sperm.

WW

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Darkwind )

And their doing it by mail order. No need for them to come here, just send the frozen sperm.

WW

Yes. They need a new set of laws for this.