But ..but we cant break up families...uuummmm ummmm

[Manonthestreet]

American mother will be deported from UK, separating her from her two-year-old daughter, because her British husband of nine years doesn't earn enough

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I know this happens here too....for different reasons same effect......

 

[Manonthestreet]

Meanwhile they got all kinds of cash for terrorists flooding in...........if a govt prefers foreigners over its own citizens.......it might be waging war on them eh

 

[Publius1787]

American mother will be deported from UK, separating her from her two-year-old daughter, because her British husband of nine years doesn't earn enough

Read more: Mother will be deported separating her from her two-year-old daughter
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I know this happens here too....for different reasons same effect......

The "we can't separate the families" argument is a fallacy, a distraction, and holds no water. Plenty of families find themselves separated when their father/mother sees fit to become a felon. Drug dealers, murders, rapists, insider traders, money launderers, and a number of other felons are separated from their families when they end up in jail. We don't see liberals crying "oh but we can't separate the family judge." The idea is laughable. You commit a crime, you get separated from your family. Why should illegals get a privilege in the matter? They broke the law. Now they should face the consequences. Comparing the US to the UK, while a seemingly good point, doesn't strike at the heart of the matter.

 

[Manonthestreet]

American mother will be deported from UK, separating her from her two-year-old daughter, because her British husband of nine years doesn't earn enough

Read more: Mother will be deported separating her from her two-year-old daughter
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
I know this happens here too....for different reasons same effect......

The "we can't separate the families" argument is a fallacy, a distraction, and holds no water. Plenty of families find themselves separated when their father/mother sees fit to become a felon. Drug dealers, murders, rapists, insider traders, money launderers, and a number of other felons are separated from their families when they end up in jail. We don't see liberals crying "oh but we can't separate the family judge." The idea is laughable. You commit a crime, you get separated from your family. Why should illegals get a privilege in the matter? They broke the law. Now they should face the consequences. Comparing the US to the UK, while a seemingly good point, doesn't strike at the heart of the matter.

Libs there use same excuses as libs here.......same hypocrisy and lies.

 

[rhodescholar]

The more I step back from this issue, the more I realize that the West is going to blow itself apart and resemble the 3rd world.

The political and corporate elites in the West want to operate their countries like a Venezuela; a mass of angry, disorganized poor with little or no voice in their economies or government, completely disenfranchised and wholly dependent upon the government for welfare, food, support, etc.

No sane leader or defender of their country would accept the position that the US government, in particular, the democratic party, has placed the US in with a huge invasion of impoverished, uneducated illegals beholden to them for sustenance. Those who are running businesses and earning a living in the US - a declining percentage of the overall population - are becoming increasingly fed up with having to pay ever increasing taxes to support the poor of Honduras, Mexico, and other 3rd world countries incapable of building functioning economies.

This problem is artificially manufactured by those elites, who seek to crush, demoralize and ultimately control the vast population of the US, and they are injecting this huge and vast invasion to destroy the cultural fabric and jobs/wage base of the native born with it, leaving a depressed and desperate populace wholly dependent upon them and their largess to survive.

If the American public does not come to its collective senses soon, dispense with the scum supporting this criminal enterprise, and begin ejecting the mass illegal invasion, there is not going to be a US in 25-50 years. There is no way the current trends could possibly allow for a country comprised of 50-100 MM illegals being paid slave wages off the books not paying taxes while the vast majority of the rest of the public is unable to find sustainable employment. This will lead to an inevitable civil war/uprising that will split the country into regions/parts.

The elite interests operating and managing this atrocity are the national democratic party and its allies such as the corporate wing of the republican party, who have manipulated the 2-party system to prevent the general public's anti-illegal alien voice from being heard. Until the public says: "enough!" and starts taking action such as this:

VIDEO: Citizens Gather to Stop Immigrant Buses, Suddenly They're Attacked by Shocking Group

the country will continue to be undermined by these elites.

 

[Liberty777]

The more I step back from this issue, the more I realize that the West is going to blow itself apart and resemble the 3rd world.

The political and corporate elites in the West want to operate their countries like a Venezuela; a mass of angry, disorganized poor with little or no voice in their economies or government, completely disenfranchised and wholly dependent upon the government for welfare, food, support, etc.

No sane leader or defender of their country would accept the position that the US government, in particular, the democratic party, has placed the US in with a huge invasion of impoverished, uneducated illegals beholden to them for sustenance. Those who are running businesses and earning a living in the US - a declining percentage of the overall population - are becoming increasingly fed up with having to pay ever increasing taxes to support the poor of Honduras, Mexico, and other 3rd world countries incapable of building functioning economies.

This problem is artificially manufactured by those elites, who seek to crush, demoralize and ultimately control the vast population of the US, and they are injecting this huge and vast invasion to destroy the cultural fabric and jobs/wage base of the native born with it, leaving a depressed and desperate populace wholly dependent upon them and their largess to survive.

If the American public does not come to its collective senses soon, dispense with the scum supporting this criminal enterprise, and begin ejecting the mass illegal invasion, there is not going to be a US in 25-50 years. There is no way the current trends could possibly allow for a country comprised of 50-100 MM illegals being paid slave wages off the books not paying taxes while the vast majority of the rest of the public is unable to find sustainable employment. This will lead to an inevitable civil war/uprising that will split the country into regions/parts.

The elite interests operating and managing this atrocity are the national democratic party and its allies such as the corporate wing of the republican party, who have manipulated the 2-party system to prevent the general public's anti-illegal alien voice from being heard. Until the public says: "enough!" and starts taking action such as this:

VIDEO: Citizens Gather to Stop Immigrant Buses, Suddenly They're Attacked by Shocking Group

the country will continue to be undermined by these elites.

Very well said. Notice how the left gains the trust of the all minorities, the white elite r using them to try and push their agenda against every hard working proud white american. Even now if ur black or hispanic n oppose the left ur a race traitor. These idiots r becoming slaves once again n they r to proud n ignorant to listening to any one who speaks truth. Its refreshing to know that others looking in from the outside c what's going on.

 

[rhodescholar]

Found this on anther forum:

1) They are an economic necessity - Not true. The idea that a bunch of desperately poor, uneducated, unskilled, non-English speaking foreigners are an economic necessity is ludicrous. In fact, when you compare cost vs. benefit, it is obvious that they are not only NOT a necessity, they are not even an asset. Rather, they are a liability and a huge one at that.

2) They do work Americans won’t do - Not true. They do work Americans won’t do for $7 an hour (especially if Americans can collect welfare and unemployment instead). Of course, if you got rid of the illegals, the jobs wouldn’t pay $7 an hour. The people who wanted the work done would have to pay a wage that was attractive enough to get Americans to do the work. And it might even be enough to get Americans off the unemployment and welfare dole and back into the taxpaying workforce!

3) We benefit from all that “cheap” labor - This is nonsense. The only people who benefit from the cheap labor are the unscrupulous people who hire illegal immigrants. Taxpayers are left holding the bag. Ultimately, it is they who must pay to support all the Americans who have been put out of work by illegals and must also provide billions of dollars in services and benefits to the illegals themselves.

4) They are just trying to make better lives - Aren’t we all? The difference is that most of us understand that we DO NOT have a right to acquire by illegal means those things that we find difficult to acquire by legal means. And we certainly don’t have the right to do it in a foreign country.

5) It is impossible to round up and deport the illegals - We don’t have to. All we have to do is remove the incentives that brought them here in the first place. No jobs. No housing. No taxpayer financed services or benefits (including education). Once we remove the incentives that brought them here, they will leave on their own.

6) Immigration control is racist / xenophobic - This is just another play of the race card by people who have no other cards to play. Immigration control is the world-wide status quo. There is nothing racist about it. Furthermore, the USA welcomes LEGAL immigrants of all races and ethnicities from all over the world who have gone through the legal immigration process. This is not just a bad argument, it is an attempt to create racial hatred and division.

7) We are a nation of immigrants - This is the “BIG LIE”. The vast majority of Americans are native-born. I am not an immigrant. Nor were my parents. Nor were my grandparents. We are a nation that has, historically, allowed and even encouraged LEGAL immigration. And we continue to do so. The issue at hand is illegal immigration, which has nothing to do with legal immigration.

8) They are people. We must treat them humanely - Yes & yes. But lets not pretend like they are victims who were dragged here kicking and screaming against their will. Nothing could be further from the truth. They came of their own free will and for their own benefit and they broke the law to do it. PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE REWARDED FOR BREAKING LAWS AND COMMITTING CRIMES. SENDING THEM HOME IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. There is nothing “draconian” or “mean-spirited” about it.

9) It is wrong to break up families- Yes. Unfortunately, families are often broken up by criminal activity. If you don’t believe it, just drop by any prison or jail on visiting day. We can’t keep families together if some family members choose to participate in criminal activity.

10) They work & contribute to our society - So do I. And if I break the law and commit crimes, I can expect to pay a penalty of some kind. Anything from a small fine to the death penalty. I do not receive a reward. WHY SHOULD WE TREAT FOREIGN CRIMINALS BETTER THAN OUR OWN CITIZENS?

 

[Unkotare]

..... the white elite r using them to try and push their agenda against every hard working proud white american......

You realize that when you say stupid shit like this - and use the infantile 'text-speak' - that no normal person will take you seriously, right?

 

[Liberty777]

..... the white elite r using them to try and push their agenda against every hard working proud white american......

You realize that when you say stupid shit like this - and use the infantile 'text-speak' - that no normal person will take you seriously, right?

U realize when u make a statement without any facts ur actually the one making stupid claims. Why do u care about white liberals?

 

[Unkotare]

..... the white elite r using them to try and push their agenda against every hard working proud white american......

You realize that when you say stupid shit like this - and use the infantile 'text-speak' - that no normal person will take you seriously, right?

U realize when u make a statement without any facts ur actually the one making stupid claims. Why do u care about white liberals?

Why are you obsessed with skin color, dimwit?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Found this on anther forum:

1) They are an economic necessity - Not true. The idea that a bunch of desperately poor, uneducated, unskilled, non-English speaking foreigners are an economic necessity is ludicrous. In fact, when you compare cost vs. benefit, it is obvious that they are not only NOT a necessity, they are not even an asset. Rather, they are a liability and a huge one at that.

2) They do work Americans won’t do - Not true. They do work Americans won’t do for $7 an hour (especially if Americans can collect welfare and unemployment instead). Of course, if you got rid of the illegals, the jobs wouldn’t pay $7 an hour. The people who wanted the work done would have to pay a wage that was attractive enough to get Americans to do the work. And it might even be enough to get Americans off the unemployment and welfare dole and back into the taxpaying workforce!

3) We benefit from all that “cheap” labor - This is nonsense. The only people who benefit from the cheap labor are the unscrupulous people who hire illegal immigrants. Taxpayers are left holding the bag. Ultimately, it is they who must pay to support all the Americans who have been put out of work by illegals and must also provide billions of dollars in services and benefits to the illegals themselves.

4) They are just trying to make better lives - Aren’t we all? The difference is that most of us understand that we DO NOT have a right to acquire by illegal means those things that we find difficult to acquire by legal means. And we certainly don’t have the right to do it in a foreign country.

5) It is impossible to round up and deport the illegals - We don’t have to. All we have to do is remove the incentives that brought them here in the first place. No jobs. No housing. No taxpayer financed services or benefits (including education). Once we remove the incentives that brought them here, they will leave on their own.

6) Immigration control is racist / xenophobic - This is just another play of the race card by people who have no other cards to play. Immigration control is the world-wide status quo. There is nothing racist about it. Furthermore, the USA welcomes LEGAL immigrants of all races and ethnicities from all over the world who have gone through the legal immigration process. This is not just a bad argument, it is an attempt to create racial hatred and division.

7) We are a nation of immigrants - This is the “BIG LIE”. The vast majority of Americans are native-born. I am not an immigrant. Nor were my parents. Nor were my grandparents. We are a nation that has, historically, allowed and even encouraged LEGAL immigration. And we continue to do so. The issue at hand is illegal immigration, which has nothing to do with legal immigration.

8) They are people. We must treat them humanely - Yes & yes. But lets not pretend like they are victims who were dragged here kicking and screaming against their will. Nothing could be further from the truth. They came of their own free will and for their own benefit and they broke the law to do it. PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE REWARDED FOR BREAKING LAWS AND COMMITTING CRIMES. SENDING THEM HOME IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. There is nothing “draconian” or “mean-spirited” about it.

9) It is wrong to break up families- Yes. Unfortunately, families are often broken up by criminal activity. If you don’t believe it, just drop by any prison or jail on visiting day. We can’t keep families together if some family members choose to participate in criminal activity.

10) They work & contribute to our society - So do I. And if I break the law and commit crimes, I can expect to pay a penalty of some kind. Anything from a small fine to the death penalty. I do not receive a reward. WHY SHOULD WE TREAT FOREIGN CRIMINALS BETTER THAN OUR OWN CITIZENS?

The whole"We cant break up the families"crap holds no water anymore when you consider the number of unescorted children crossing our borders.