British Police arrest Christian preacher for preaching the gospel.

[bodecea]

Exactly......they are being used as instruments by the powers that be to deny basic freedoms.

What is the next step?

When a government goes 'totolatarian' it is done in increments or stages.

True, and evidently we have some totalitarian-minded people here in this thread, due to their hatred for theism.

So you are in support of theocracy?

So when did you stop beating your wife?

Ah look...a CRC family attack.

 

[MacTheKnife]

What law say 'faith' is supposed to be personal?

That's a stupid question. Perhaps refrain from asking stupid questions.

Anyhow, what you are trying to say most likely is that you want to be free from religion.

Yep. And exactly what can you do about it? Nothing.

The word will continue to be preached....people still have the right to kinock on your door and tell you about Jesus....

You may have nightmares because of this, it may scare you to hear the gospel truth....but hear it you will....unless you want to go live in a cave somewhere.... you have a personal problem...and your problem is for you to deal with.

And as I said, when they come knock on my door, I have the right to mess with their heads all I want while they are on my property. It's a fun pasttime.

Well, that is your right of course. And really not a bad outlook...........more folk should adopt this kind of participation....challenge them, question them....whatever....they have their freedom and you have yours....net result a plus for both sides....you get to hear their message and they perhaps are sharpened by your objections...thus they become more efficient in spreading their doctrine...not that I agree with the Jehovah Witness doctrine...just they have a right to preach it.

 

[bodecea]

I take the story with a grain of salt but it's important to remember that no other country in the world has the guaranteed freedoms listed in the Bill of Rights aka the first ten Amendments to the Constitution as we have in the U.S. There is no 1st Amendment guaranteed freedom of speech or freedom of religion in any other country so we should be aware and thankful for what we have in the greatest Country on earth.

The pertinent question being for how long........

The Roman Empire lasted 500 yrs. perhaps we can last a while longer but we are under assault like neve before and much of it from right here in America.....there are many trying to tear us down, to fundamentally change America....into what?



They really do not care....they just want change for the sake of change....like a change would improve anything at all.

A lot of these kids preaching revolution have no idea how bad things can get.

The Roman Empire collapsed when the christers took over.

Invasions by Barbarian tribes. The most straightforward theory for Western Rome's collapse pins the fall on a string of military losses sustained against outside forces.Rome had tangled with Germanic tribes for centuries, but by the 300s “barbarian” groups like the Goths had encroached beyond the Empire's borders.

The 18th-century historian Edward Gibbon was the most famous proponent of this theory, regarding Christianity having contributed to the fall of The Roman Empire...... but his take has since been widely criticized.

While the spread of Christianity may have played a small role in curbing Roman civic virtue, most scholars now argue that its influence paled in comparison to military, economic and administrative factors.

Barbarians have pushed against Rome for centuries....it wasn't until the christers took over that the PAGANS succeeded. The christers caused the decline and fall of the Roman Empire.

 

[MacTheKnife]

Exactly......they are being used as instruments by the powers that be to deny basic freedoms.

What is the next step?

When a government goes 'totolatarian' it is done in increments or stages.

True, and evidently we have some totalitarian-minded people here in this thread, due to their hatred for theism.

So you are in support of theocracy?

So when did you stop beating your wife?

Ah look...a CRC family attack.

the·ism
Dictionary result for theism
/ˈTHēˌizəm/
noun

1. belief in the existence of a god or gods, especially belief in one god as creator of the universe, intervening in it and sustaining a personal relation to his creatures.
   

 

[MacTheKnife]

I take the story with a grain of salt but it's important to remember that no other country in the world has the guaranteed freedoms listed in the Bill of Rights aka the first ten Amendments to the Constitution as we have in the U.S. There is no 1st Amendment guaranteed freedom of speech or freedom of religion in any other country so we should be aware and thankful for what we have in the greatest Country on earth.

The pertinent question being for how long........

The Roman Empire lasted 500 yrs. perhaps we can last a while longer but we are under assault like neve before and much of it from right here in America.....there are many trying to tear us down, to fundamentally change America....into what?



They really do not care....they just want change for the sake of change....like a change would improve anything at all.

A lot of these kids preaching revolution have no idea how bad things can get.

The Roman Empire collapsed when the christers took over.

Invasions by Barbarian tribes. The most straightforward theory for Western Rome's collapse pins the fall on a string of military losses sustained against outside forces.Rome had tangled with Germanic tribes for centuries, but by the 300s “barbarian” groups like the Goths had encroached beyond the Empire's borders.

The 18th-century historian Edward Gibbon was the most famous proponent of this theory, regarding Christianity having contributed to the fall of The Roman Empire...... but his take has since been widely criticized.

While the spread of Christianity may have played a small role in curbing Roman civic virtue, most scholars now argue that its influence paled in comparison to military, economic and administrative factors.

Barbarians have pushed against Rome for centuries....it wasn't until the christers took over that the PAGANS succeeded. The christers caused the decline and fall of the Roman Empire.

- The eastern half of the Roman Empire would survive in one form or another for a thousand years ... Why did the east survive while the west fell apart? ... Theodosius II was feckless at worst and ineffectual at best, but he ruled for 42 years ... Stephen Williams and Gerald Friell, The Rome that Did Not Fall:

https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/why-didn-t-the-eastern-roman-empire-fall-1797979828

 

[bodecea]

Exactly......they are being used as instruments by the powers that be to deny basic freedoms.

What is the next step?

When a government goes 'totolatarian' it is done in increments or stages.

True, and evidently we have some totalitarian-minded people here in this thread, due to their hatred for theism.

So you are in support of theocracy?

So when did you stop beating your wife?

Ah look...a CRC family attack.

the·ism
Dictionary result for theism
/ˈTHēˌizəm/
noun

1. belief in the existence of a god or gods, especially belief in one god as creator of the universe, intervening in it and sustaining a personal relation to his creatures.

So....you were really refering to anyone who believes in any god or goddess or many gods or goddesses, right?

 

[bodecea]

I take the story with a grain of salt but it's important to remember that no other country in the world has the guaranteed freedoms listed in the Bill of Rights aka the first ten Amendments to the Constitution as we have in the U.S. There is no 1st Amendment guaranteed freedom of speech or freedom of religion in any other country so we should be aware and thankful for what we have in the greatest Country on earth.

The pertinent question being for how long........

The Roman Empire lasted 500 yrs. perhaps we can last a while longer but we are under assault like neve before and much of it from right here in America.....there are many trying to tear us down, to fundamentally change America....into what?



They really do not care....they just want change for the sake of change....like a change would improve anything at all.

A lot of these kids preaching revolution have no idea how bad things can get.

The Roman Empire collapsed when the christers took over.

Invasions by Barbarian tribes. The most straightforward theory for Western Rome's collapse pins the fall on a string of military losses sustained against outside forces.Rome had tangled with Germanic tribes for centuries, but by the 300s “barbarian” groups like the Goths had encroached beyond the Empire's borders.

The 18th-century historian Edward Gibbon was the most famous proponent of this theory, regarding Christianity having contributed to the fall of The Roman Empire...... but his take has since been widely criticized.

While the spread of Christianity may have played a small role in curbing Roman civic virtue, most scholars now argue that its influence paled in comparison to military, economic and administrative factors.

Barbarians have pushed against Rome for centuries....it wasn't until the christers took over that the PAGANS succeeded. The christers caused the decline and fall of the Roman Empire.

- The eastern half of the Roman Empire would survive in one form or another for a thousand years ... Why did the east survive while the west fell apart? ... Theodosius II was feckless at worst and ineffectual at best, but he ruled for 42 years ... Stephen Williams and Gerald Friell, The Rome that Did Not Fall:

https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/why-didn-t-the-eastern-roman-empire-fall-1797979828

And then they fell to fellow christers at the end.....and the muslims just picked up the pieces.

 

[MacTheKnife]

True, and evidently we have some totalitarian-minded people here in this thread, due to their hatred for theism.

So you are in support of theocracy?

So when did you stop beating your wife?

Ah look...a CRC family attack.

the·ism
Dictionary result for theism
/ˈTHēˌizəm/
noun

1. belief in the existence of a god or gods, especially belief in one god as creator of the universe, intervening in it and sustaining a personal relation to his creatures.

So....you were really refering to anyone who believes in any god or goddess or many gods or goddesses, right?

I was merely pointing out the meaning of 'theism'......

 

[MacTheKnife]

Once again we see the leftists proclaim their dependence on censorship....obviously they feel threatened by the message of the gospels thus they seek protection from the civil authorities.

Just like the liberals in Berkely, Ca. ---they feel threatened by conservatism thus they will not allow conservatives to speak on campus.

Yet they think they are American?

 

[MacTheKnife]

The pertinent question being for how long........

The Roman Empire lasted 500 yrs. perhaps we can last a while longer but we are under assault like neve before and much of it from right here in America.....there are many trying to tear us down, to fundamentally change America....into what?



They really do not care....they just want change for the sake of change....like a change would improve anything at all.

A lot of these kids preaching revolution have no idea how bad things can get.

The Roman Empire collapsed when the christers took over.

Invasions by Barbarian tribes. The most straightforward theory for Western Rome's collapse pins the fall on a string of military losses sustained against outside forces.Rome had tangled with Germanic tribes for centuries, but by the 300s “barbarian” groups like the Goths had encroached beyond the Empire's borders.

The 18th-century historian Edward Gibbon was the most famous proponent of this theory, regarding Christianity having contributed to the fall of The Roman Empire...... but his take has since been widely criticized.

While the spread of Christianity may have played a small role in curbing Roman civic virtue, most scholars now argue that its influence paled in comparison to military, economic and administrative factors.

Barbarians have pushed against Rome for centuries....it wasn't until the christers took over that the PAGANS succeeded. The christers caused the decline and fall of the Roman Empire.

- The eastern half of the Roman Empire would survive in one form or another for a thousand years ... Why did the east survive while the west fell apart? ... Theodosius II was feckless at worst and ineffectual at best, but he ruled for 42 years ... Stephen Williams and Gerald Friell, The Rome that Did Not Fall:

https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/why-didn-t-the-eastern-roman-empire-fall-1797979828

And then they fell to fellow christers at the end.....and the muslims just picked up the pieces.

 

[MacTheKnife]

The Roman Empire collapsed when the christers took over.

Invasions by Barbarian tribes. The most straightforward theory for Western Rome's collapse pins the fall on a string of military losses sustained against outside forces.Rome had tangled with Germanic tribes for centuries, but by the 300s “barbarian” groups like the Goths had encroached beyond the Empire's borders.

The 18th-century historian Edward Gibbon was the most famous proponent of this theory, regarding Christianity having contributed to the fall of The Roman Empire...... but his take has since been widely criticized.

While the spread of Christianity may have played a small role in curbing Roman civic virtue, most scholars now argue that its influence paled in comparison to military, economic and administrative factors.

Barbarians have pushed against Rome for centuries....it wasn't until the christers took over that the PAGANS succeeded. The christers caused the decline and fall of the Roman Empire.

- The eastern half of the Roman Empire would survive in one form or another for a thousand years ... Why did the east survive while the west fell apart? ... Theodosius II was feckless at worst and ineffectual at best, but he ruled for 42 years ... Stephen Williams and Gerald Friell, The Rome that Did Not Fall:

https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/why-didn-t-the-eastern-roman-empire-fall-1797979828

s.

The capital of the Eastern Roman Empire, Constantinople was conquered by the Ottoman Army, under the command Ottoman Sultan Mehmed II on 29th May 1453. With this conquest Ottomans became an Empire and one of the most powerful empires.

Mehmed the Conqueror | Discover The Ottomans | TheOttomans.org

All earthly empires come to a end at some point.....Is America close to the end?

 

[buttercup]

Ah look...a CRC family attack.

What on earth are you talking about? Do you not understand the phrase: "When did you stop beating your wife"? It was not an attack, I was pointing out the fallacy in YOUR post to me, the one I replied to. In case you need more explanation, here you go: Loaded question - Wikipedia

 

[22lcidw]

I take the story with a grain of salt but it's important to remember that no other country in the world has the guaranteed freedoms listed in the Bill of Rights aka the first ten Amendments to the Constitution as we have in the U.S. There is no 1st Amendment guaranteed freedom of speech or freedom of religion in any other country so we should be aware and thankful for what we have in the greatest Country on earth.

The pertinent question being for how long........

The Roman Empire lasted 500 yrs. perhaps we can last a while longer but we are under assault like neve before and much of it from right here in America.....there are many trying to tear us down, to fundamentally change America....into what?



They really do not care....they just want change for the sake of change....like a change would improve anything at all.

A lot of these kids preaching revolution have no idea how bad things can get.

The Roman Empire collapsed when the christers took over.

Invasions by Barbarian tribes. The most straightforward theory for Western Rome's collapse pins the fall on a string of military losses sustained against outside forces.Rome had tangled with Germanic tribes for centuries, but by the 300s “barbarian” groups like the Goths had encroached beyond the Empire's borders.

The 18th-century historian Edward Gibbon was the most famous proponent of this theory, regarding Christianity having contributed to the fall of The Roman Empire...... but his take has since been widely criticized.

While the spread of Christianity may have played a small role in curbing Roman civic virtue, most scholars now argue that its influence paled in comparison to military, economic and administrative factors.

Barbarians have pushed against Rome for centuries....it wasn't until the christers took over that the PAGANS succeeded. The christers caused the decline and fall of the Roman Empire.

The Roman authoritarian government and the Christians were not compatible. The United States is moving in this direction.

 

[MacTheKnife]

Ah look...a CRC family attack.

What on earth are you talking about? Do you not understand the phrase: "When did you stop beating your wife"? It was not an attack, I was pointing out the fallacy in YOUR post to me, the one I replied to. In case you need more explanation, here you go: Loaded question - Wikipedia

Yes, good of you to point that out. Bodeca is rather weak(to say the least) in the debate arena....but of course most progressives are.

Too many of them believe that their 'opinion' is somehow sacrosanct.

 

[MacTheKnife]

I take the story with a grain of salt but it's important to remember that no other country in the world has the guaranteed freedoms listed in the Bill of Rights aka the first ten Amendments to the Constitution as we have in the U.S. There is no 1st Amendment guaranteed freedom of speech or freedom of religion in any other country so we should be aware and thankful for what we have in the greatest Country on earth.

The pertinent question being for how long........

The Roman Empire lasted 500 yrs. perhaps we can last a while longer but we are under assault like neve before and much of it from right here in America.....there are many trying to tear us down, to fundamentally change America....into what?



They really do not care....they just want change for the sake of change....like a change would improve anything at all.

A lot of these kids preaching revolution have no idea how bad things can get.

The Roman Empire collapsed when the christers took over.

Invasions by Barbarian tribes. The most straightforward theory for Western Rome's collapse pins the fall on a string of military losses sustained against outside forces.Rome had tangled with Germanic tribes for centuries, but by the 300s “barbarian” groups like the Goths had encroached beyond the Empire's borders.

The 18th-century historian Edward Gibbon was the most famous proponent of this theory, regarding Christianity having contributed to the fall of The Roman Empire...... but his take has since been widely criticized.

While the spread of Christianity may have played a small role in curbing Roman civic virtue, most scholars now argue that its influence paled in comparison to military, economic and administrative factors.

Barbarians have pushed against Rome for centuries....it wasn't until the christers took over that the PAGANS succeeded. The christers caused the decline and fall of the Roman Empire.

The Roman authoritarian government and the Christians were not compatible. The United States is moving in this direction.

Are we on the road to civilisation collapse?

 

[bodecea]

Invasions by Barbarian tribes. The most straightforward theory for Western Rome's collapse pins the fall on a string of military losses sustained against outside forces.Rome had tangled with Germanic tribes for centuries, but by the 300s “barbarian” groups like the Goths had encroached beyond the Empire's borders.

The 18th-century historian Edward Gibbon was the most famous proponent of this theory, regarding Christianity having contributed to the fall of The Roman Empire...... but his take has since been widely criticized.

While the spread of Christianity may have played a small role in curbing Roman civic virtue, most scholars now argue that its influence paled in comparison to military, economic and administrative factors.

Barbarians have pushed against Rome for centuries....it wasn't until the christers took over that the PAGANS succeeded. The christers caused the decline and fall of the Roman Empire.

- The eastern half of the Roman Empire would survive in one form or another for a thousand years ... Why did the east survive while the west fell apart? ... Theodosius II was feckless at worst and ineffectual at best, but he ruled for 42 years ... Stephen Williams and Gerald Friell, The Rome that Did Not Fall:

https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/why-didn-t-the-eastern-roman-empire-fall-1797979828

s.

The capital of the Eastern Roman Empire, Constantinople was conquered by the Ottoman Army, under the command Ottoman Sultan Mehmed II on 29th May 1453. With this conquest Ottomans became an Empire and one of the most powerful empires.

Mehmed the Conqueror | Discover The Ottomans | TheOttomans.org

All earthly empires come to a end at some point.....Is America close to the end?

After the so-called christian crusaders sacked Constantinople at least twice when they were supposed to be going on Crusade.

 

[MacTheKnife]

Barbarians have pushed against Rome for centuries....it wasn't until the christers took over that the PAGANS succeeded. The christers caused the decline and fall of the Roman Empire.

- The eastern half of the Roman Empire would survive in one form or another for a thousand years ... Why did the east survive while the west fell apart? ... Theodosius II was feckless at worst and ineffectual at best, but he ruled for 42 years ... Stephen Williams and Gerald Friell, The Rome that Did Not Fall:

https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/why-didn-t-the-eastern-roman-empire-fall-1797979828

s.

The capital of the Eastern Roman Empire, Constantinople was conquered by the Ottoman Army, under the command Ottoman Sultan Mehmed II on 29th May 1453. With this conquest Ottomans became an Empire and one of the most powerful empires.

Mehmed the Conqueror | Discover The Ottomans | TheOttomans.org

All earthly empires come to a end at some point.....Is America close to the end?

After the so-called christian crusaders sacked Constantinople at least twice when they were supposed to be going on Crusade.

In order to repay Venice for shipping most of the crusaders eastward, the Crusaders were obliged to seize Zara on the Adriatic from Christian Hungary on Venice’s behalf. Meanwhile exiled Byzantine prince Alexius offered a cash reward if he were put on the Byzantine throne.


The crusaders therefore sailed to Constantinople and in July 1203 set up Alexius as emperor. In February 1204 the new emperor was murdered and replaced by courtier Alexius Ducas, who told the crusaders to leave. The crusaders responded by laying siege to Constantinople. A first assault on the city’s defenses was repelled with heavy losses, but on 12 April the crusaders were successful. Men swarmed up the masts of ships and scrambled across catwalks to reach the tops of the city walls. Other ships landed men on the shoreline to hack at a bricked-up gateway with picks and shovels. When a hole was broken through, Aleaumes of Clari crawled in to find the street beyond almost deserted. Hundreds of crusaders came through the enlarged hole, fought their way to a main gate, and opened it to their comrades. For three days the army pillaged at will, and then the nobles imposed order and began a more systematic looting of the greatest city in Christendom. The crusader nobleman Baldwin of Flanders was set up as emperor, but most Byzantines refused to recognize him, and the empire fragmented into four quarreling states.

Rupert Matthews
.…

 

[skye]

The British police of today, is becoming more and more like the Nazis of the 1940s

In fact they are surpassing their former enemies.

Who would have thought.

Surpassing the Nazis?

How many jews have the british police put in gas chambers this month?

Yes, that's right.

The British police now are as bad as the most repressive thought propagandists in the worst Communist countries,but of course these police are dictated to by the current UK politically correct left wing socialists.

These cowards never blame the true victims but attack those who would dare raise their voice in protest.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

The British police of today, is becoming more and more like the Nazis of the 1940s

In fact they are surpassing their former enemies.

Who would have thought.

Surpassing the Nazis?

How many jews have the british police put in gas chambers this month?

Yes, that's right.

The British police now are as bad as the most repressive thought propagandists in the worst Communist countries,but of course these police are dictated to by the current UK politically correct left wing socialists.

These cowards never blame the true victims but attack those who would dare raise their voice in protest.

You are probably not aware that the UK has the most right wing conservative government ever.

 

[Vagabond63]

The British police of today, is becoming more and more like the Nazis of the 1940s

In fact they are surpassing their former enemies.

Who would have thought.

Surpassing the Nazis?

How many jews have the british police put in gas chambers this month?

Yes, that's right.

The British police now are as bad as the most repressive thought propagandists in the worst Communist countries,but of course these police are dictated to by the current UK politically correct left wing socialists.

These cowards never blame the true victims but attack those who would dare raise their voice in protest.

You are probably not aware that the UK has the most right wing conservative government ever.

I think you are forgetting the Thatcher regime, this is merely the most incompetent right wing Conservative government ever. The other problem you have is that to an American RWNJ, anyone to the left of a Hitler or a Stalin is classified as a "politically correct left wing socialist", hey ho, that's the world we live in.