Breaking News: Restaurants Closing All Over Seattle As $15 Minimum Wage Mandate Starts April 1st.

[thereisnospoon]

If you can't afford to pay you staff a living wage then you shouldn't be in business in the first place.

If we create tons of jobs, but they all pay a buck an hour, that doesn't help anyone but the capitalists who get rich paying jack-shit to their employees.

The lease, utilities, purveyors, insurance, taxes....
You don't know shit about running a business.
You over simplistic post id proof of that.
If every restaurant operated on the premise you suggest, there would be no restaurants.
Shut up...

 

[thereisnospoon]

It’s evident that those Demoncrats don’t have a clue about economics. They never think of the consequences of their “feel good policies.” Neither do they have a clue how a business is run and operated. Seems to me this should be a litmus test for elected officials



Seattle eateries closing as 15 minimum wage approaches Hot Air

Whoever wrote your stupid article is full of garbage.

The 15 dollar an hour wage isn't fully implemented in April 2015. On April 1, 2015 minimum wage goes up another dollar to 10.32 an hour.

The full 15 dollar wage won't happen until 2017 at the earliest. That's just for businesses that have 500 or more employees. If they have less or offer health insurance it goes up in 2018.

One other fact that isn't in your article is that restaurants are able to count tips toward hourly pay. So most restaurants will not see wages increase because the workers tips are considered and those tips bring their wage above 15 dollars an hour.

The restaurants mentioned in your article don't have 500 or more employees so they won't see wages go up to 15 dollars an hour until 2018. That is IF they go up since tips are counted as part of wages and those tips bring wages above 15 dollars an hour.

You might want to actually learn about the law before you buy into lies.


Seattle raises minimum wage to $15 an hour

It doesn't matter. The min wage is a financial hardship for business. It is ridiculous. And it will never become the norm. Ever.
Of course, you are most likely not a business owner. Thus you are another clueless rube for big labor...Losers....

 

[thereisnospoon]

Four restaurants closing makes it easier for the other eateries to establish working prices that lead to a profit.

Yes ... because EVERYONE loves going to a ultra crowded, overly priced restaurant.

Stay home then.

And we are back to square one. The restaurants see a downturn in business and they first make cuts. Then they go out of business.. $15 per hour times zero hours =$0...Brilliant.
No matter how you people couch this, you lose.
The rate is not sustainable without dramatically raising prices...As the OP stated, there is a limit to what people will pay to eat out....
Done....

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

It’s evident that those Demoncrats don’t have a clue about economics. They never think of the consequences of their “feel good policies.” Neither do they have a clue how a business is run and operated. Seems to me this should be a litmus test for elected officials



Seattle eateries closing as 15 minimum wage approaches Hot Air

Huh... ? Seriously?

But THAT would mean that people who HAD jobs, now have no jobs.

Golly... THAT means that those people are making zero dollars.


I'm old and not up on a lot of this deviant reasoning that so popular these days, so is $0 still less than $15?

 

[Billy000]

Um exactly how many restaurants have closed? I'm sure this increase will cause a few closings, however, the economy will do better in the long run because of the increase in consumer spending due to larger paychecks. 70% of the economy is economic demand.

The larger paychecks are being eaten up by ObamaCare and inflation, bub.

Um if inflation "ate up" consumer spending, then our economy would have collapsed a long time ago. ObamaCare has not at all interfered with consumer spending.

The Labor Force Participation Rate is "back to the 70s". Job creation in this fake recovery is less than half of what it was in the 80s. We have record numbers of people classified as being in poverty. These aren't exactly hallmarks of a Robust Economy, bub.

1/4 of that labor participation loss is retirees. Others are people going on disability. Yes, certainly a portion of it is people who gave up looking for a job. However the issue isn't so much of a lack of jobs - that growth has been great - it's because wages are too low. People won't take jobs with shitty pay. Another reason for this is that there are too many jobs that Americans are not qualified for. Obama tried to address these issues in two ways: trying to raise the minimum wage and trying to implement job training programs at community colleges. Republicans blocked both of these attempts. They are scumbags.

Translation: 3/4 of the drop is due to Dismal Obamanomics which destroys job creation.

Suck on that lollipop, junior.

Um no. The labor participation has been declining since before Obama took office. You recall that recession that happened at the end of Bush's second term? Yeah that one. We lost 8 million jobs from that and we have regained 11 million since then.

 

[Neotrotsky]

The min. wage allows Democrats to play class division and it makes
them feel good about themselves.

Just another gimmick to use people for votes

Besides, the cost is pushed down to the consumer
so it acts like a tax
that impacts even those on min. wage

any positive impact felt by them is short-lived

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

It’s evident that those Demoncrats don’t have a clue about economics. They never think of the consequences of their “feel good policies.” Neither do they have a clue how a business is run and operated. Seems to me this should be a litmus test for elected officials



Seattle eateries closing as 15 minimum wage approaches Hot Air

Whoever wrote your stupid article is full of garbage.

The 15 dollar an hour wage isn't fully implemented in April 2015. On April 1, 2015 minimum wage goes up another dollar to 10.32 an hour.

The full 15 dollar wage won't happen until 2017 at the earliest. That's just for businesses that have 500 or more employees. If they have less or offer health insurance it goes up in 2018.

One other fact that isn't in your article is that restaurants are able to count tips toward hourly pay. So most restaurants will not see wages increase because the workers tips are considered and those tips bring their wage above 15 dollars an hour.

The restaurants mentioned in your article don't have 500 or more employees so they won't see wages go up to 15 dollars an hour until 2018. That is IF they go up since tips are counted as part of wages and those tips bring wages above 15 dollars an hour.

You might want to actually learn about the law before you buy into lies.


Seattle raises minimum wage to $15 an hour

ROFLMNAO!

So, lets assume that you're in Washington State, as a business owner and because you are in business, you know the score and recognize that others who are also in business, will very soon have less means to purchase your products and services?

So what do ya do?

Do ya hang in there and hope for the best, despite the math being quite clear... or do ya get out while there's still some black on the ledger?

Here's a clue: The one's who can... are getting out of the impact area.

But that's only because that's the smart thing to do, as anyone who stays is going to get their financial ass kicked and but GOOD!

 

[thereisnospoon]

Nah, it won't. Folks will eat out regardless.

Only the wealthy....
all the places serving the middle class will either move out of the city or close. The chain restaurants, forget it. They are done. They cannot pay those wages. Impossible to maintain their margins. Prices will rise and in that case, the customer base will erode. Same effect. Same result.
At the end of the day, the idiots running Seattle screwed up and nothing good will come of it...

 

[thereisnospoon]

Four restaurants closing makes it easier for the other eateries to establish working prices that lead to a profit.

Yes ... because EVERYONE loves going to a ultra crowded, overly priced restaurant.

Stay home then.

Many will do just that. Which will drop the income of the restaurants which leads to more closing which leads to less employees...

See the cycle here?

And the restaurants that can afford to pay will gain customers, and then have to hire more staff. Or they will raise prices, which people will pay because the ones with lower prices are now out of business. Got it now?

Wrong again....This thing is a huge failure.....

 

[Manonthestreet]

Must have been crappy jobs we dont need just like the crappy health insurance you used to have

 

[Neotrotsky]

the left has always been bad with math and economics
they still think Papa Obama care will cost nothing and that
the Great Society worked

even though we have the same amount of poor

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

The larger paychecks are being eaten up by ObamaCare and inflation, bub.

Um if inflation "ate up" consumer spending, then our economy would have collapsed a long time ago. ObamaCare has not at all interfered with consumer spending.

The Labor Force Participation Rate is "back to the 70s". Job creation in this fake recovery is less than half of what it was in the 80s. We have record numbers of people classified as being in poverty. These aren't exactly hallmarks of a Robust Economy, bub.

1/4 of that labor participation loss is retirees. Others are people going on disability. Yes, certainly a portion of it is people who gave up looking for a job. However the issue isn't so much of a lack of jobs - that growth has been great - it's because wages are too low. People won't take jobs with shitty pay. Another reason for this is that there are too many jobs that Americans are not qualified for. Obama tried to address these issues in two ways: trying to raise the minimum wage and trying to implement job training programs at community colleges. Republicans blocked both of these attempts. They are scumbags.

Translation: 3/4 of the drop is due to Dismal Obamanomics which destroys job creation.

Suck on that lollipop, junior.

Um no. The labor participation has been declining since before Obama took office. You recall that recession that happened at the end of Bush's second term? Yeah that one. We lost 8 million jobs from that and we have regained 11 million since then.

NONSENSE... obama took office after the catastrophic (inevitable) failure of socialist policy, wherein the Ideological Left coerced the financial markets to turn from sound, actuarial lending principle in favor of a perverse notion of 'fairness'... this resulted in the collapse of tens of thousands of businesses who in one way or another were modeled on or around the financial markets.

This resulted in the current depression the US has been in since 2008... .

 

[Neotrotsky]

Comrade,

shhhhh.....
blame bush

 

[thereisnospoon]

Four restaurants closing makes it easier for the other eateries to establish working prices that lead to a profit.

The restaurants in that article closed because of lack of business not because of wages.

The wage of 15 dollars an hour won't happen until 2017 at the earliest and tips are counted as wages so most restaurant employees won't see their wages change. Their tips already bring their wages way above 15 dollars an hour.

The small restaurants that closed wouldn't have seen that 15 dollars an hour until 2018.

That raise in the minimum wage had nothing to do with the closing of those restaurants.

You go ahead and repeat the narrative. believe it because it makes you feel better.
Non one is going to pay those absurd wages to unskilled workers.
Business will always find a way to survive. And in the case of a business in trouble, the owner(s) will protect their assets. If that means relocating or shutting down, they will do just that.
Your side cannot win this....

 

[thereisnospoon]

Yes ... because EVERYONE loves going to a ultra crowded, overly priced restaurant.

Stay home then.

Many will do just that. Which will drop the income of the restaurants which leads to more closing which leads to less employees...

See the cycle here?

And the restaurants that can afford to pay will gain customers, and then have to hire more staff. Or they will raise prices, which people will pay because the ones with lower prices are now out of business. Got it now?

You do realize going out to eat is a luxury right? The higher the prices go the smaller the customer base becomes. The high end places will not grow, they can't. You can't push everyone from eating McDonalds into going to a steak house and you sure as hell aren't going to get any customers at McDonalds at steak house prices.

There is some of that but why I want ten times as many restaurants that all pay five bucks an hour? China has tons of jobs, at a $1.50 a day. You gonna sign up for that?

We want the vast majority of jobs here to pay a living wage. If you can't do that, go out of business.

The notion of a "living wage" is a myth. its a made up term to gin up support for class envy democrats

 

[asaratis]

What the stupid liberals do not fathom is that it is NOT necessary or viable that every job opening pays enough to support a household.

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

If you can't afford to pay your workers a decent wage you shouldn't be in business.

I think what you were trying to convey was, YOU want to decice what a FAIR wage is!!!!!

With no clue to operating expenses, profit margins or payable debts for a particular business...............

So who the FUCK do you think you are to tell any other person how much to pay their employess.

When you talk about a DECENT LIVING WAGE, there are those who live in the outskirts of society who have very little / no need for money. They either subsist off the land or barter for what they desire in life.

Then there would be the other school of Whimsical Faggots and black Gangsters who will let their babies starve just so they can hit the crack / meth pipe again or have another swill of rot gut liquor, all while drawing a government check and swearing up and down their position in life is so because of being victimized by Republicans / Big Business.

Yes sir, you can give all those shit bags truck loads of money and it will still never be enough.

Instead of your decent wage BS line try self responsibility, learning to live within ones means and anything worth having takes time( in other words let em work for the company 20yrs. or perhaps step up to a more responsible position.

Damn. once that word responsible came into that last statement we all know that is just not possible.

Holla

 

[Billy000]

Um if inflation "ate up" consumer spending, then our economy would have collapsed a long time ago. ObamaCare has not at all interfered with consumer spending.

The Labor Force Participation Rate is "back to the 70s". Job creation in this fake recovery is less than half of what it was in the 80s. We have record numbers of people classified as being in poverty. These aren't exactly hallmarks of a Robust Economy, bub.

1/4 of that labor participation loss is retirees. Others are people going on disability. Yes, certainly a portion of it is people who gave up looking for a job. However the issue isn't so much of a lack of jobs - that growth has been great - it's because wages are too low. People won't take jobs with shitty pay. Another reason for this is that there are too many jobs that Americans are not qualified for. Obama tried to address these issues in two ways: trying to raise the minimum wage and trying to implement job training programs at community colleges. Republicans blocked both of these attempts. They are scumbags.

Translation: 3/4 of the drop is due to Dismal Obamanomics which destroys job creation.

Suck on that lollipop, junior.

Um no. The labor participation has been declining since before Obama took office. You recall that recession that happened at the end of Bush's second term? Yeah that one. We lost 8 million jobs from that and we have regained 11 million since then.

NONSENSE... obama took office after the catastrophic (inevitable) failure of socialist policy, wherein the Ideological Left coerced the financial markets to turn from sound, actuarial lending principle in favor of a perverse notion of 'fairness'... this resulted in the collapse of tens of thousands of businesses who in one way or another were modeled on or around the financial markets.

This resulted in the current depression the US has been in not since 2008... .

Lol you're just saying a bunch of unsubstiated fluff. There are no specifics to what you are saying. What "socialism"? Who what why and where?

 

[Preacher]

If you can't afford to pay your workers a decent wage you shouldn't be in business.

I think what you were trying to convey was, YOU want to decice what a FAIR wage is!!!!!

With no clue to operating expenses, profit margins or payable debts for a particular business...............

So who the FUCK do you think you are to tell any other person how much to pay their employess.

When you talk about a DECENT LIVING WAGE, there are those who live in the outskirts of society who have very little / no need for money. They either subsist off the land or barter for what they desire in life.

Then there would be the other school of Whimsical Faggots and black Gangsters who will let their babies starve just so they can hit the crack / meth pipe again or have another swill of rot gut liquor, all while drawing a government check and swearing up and down their position in life is so because of being victimized by Republicans / Big Business.

Yes sir, you can give all those shit bags truck loads of money and it will still never be enough.

Instead of your decent wage BS line try self responsibility, learning to live within ones means and anything worth having takes time( in other words let em work for the company 20yrs. or perhaps step up to a more responsible position.

Damn. once that word responsible came into that last statement we all know that is just not possible.

Holla

Another republican....blah blah blah. I hate poor people,blah blah blah I need a new bonus blah blah blah to buy a new porsche.

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

You got socialism out of my post??

So you suck at comprehension, but I bet you have a lot of practice sucking.
You referring to the truck loads of money statement, what a fucking moron.

No they can earn, you can give it to em, they can steal it , bu no matter how they get it,IT WILL NEVER BE ENOUGH.