Breaking News. Plane crash in DC. Collided with either helicopter or drone over Potomac.

[Delldude]

Is why airlines use simulators so extensively.

 

[westwall]

Is why airlines use simulators so extensively.

Yup. Simulators are cheap, and every flight crew is required to do sim training every few months.

 

[Delldude]

Yup. Simulators are cheap, and every flight crew is required to do sim training every few months.

I don't know about cheap. They are more complex than live aircraft.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Hitler was appointed chancellor by the president in 1933, he didn’t win any vote. He then used his position to pass the enabling acts that made him dictator

He was appointed much like harris was appointed to be your demafascit party’s nominee…nobody voted for him or her for that position

I can see how you are confused

So you are saying the Musk appointment would be more like the way Hitler was appointed.

 

[postman]

You forgot to mention working for two years in the Biden administration, as an aide.

It was a part time deployment to the white house military office. Where 45 career military from the DC area, with top secret security clearances are chosen to escort VIP's while in the white house.

 

[Delldude]

It was a part time deployment to the white house military office. Where 45 career military from the DC area, with top secret security clearances are chosen to escort VIP's while in the white house.

Working for Biden..............got it.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

How many lies are they going to tell about this poor woman.



Or you guys are so desperate to validate Trump's fucked up comments about DEI you are willing to slander a woman who served her country... unlike Trump who got deferments for Bone Spurs.

These cowards don't care about anyone's service, they will defend their coward leader until the end.

 

[postman]

I don't know about cheap. They are more complex than live aircraft.

They don't burn thousands of dollars of fuel every hour. And when they crash, they don't need to buy a new one.

 

[postman]

Working for Biden..............got it.

No, working for the white house military office.
They are chosen from top officers in the DC area.

They're like the Marine honor guard.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Working for Biden..............got it.

Working for the President, do you think it stops just because Trump is in the WH.

 

[Delldude]

No, working for the white house military office.

Which is a component of the administration.

The White House Military Office (WHMO) is a department within the White House Office that provides military support to the President and the First Family. The WHMO's responsibilities include food service, transportation, medical support, and hospitality.

Specialist in charge of ice cream cone assembly?

They don't burn thousands of dollars of fuel every hour. And when they crash, they don't need to buy a new one.

They are as complex a device as an aircraft, and more complex in many ways.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Which is a component of the administration.

The White House Military Office (WHMO) is a department within the White House Office that provides military support to the President and the First Family. The WHMO's responsibilities include food service, transportation, medical support, and hospitality.

Specialist in charge of ice cream cone assembly?


They are as complex a device as an aircraft, and more complex in many ways.

How many years has this program been around?

 

[Delldude]

Working for the President, do you think it stops just because Trump is in the WH.

The discussion was Biden and the woman's services to him...............

 

[Delldude]

How many years has this program been around?

The two years she was 'under' Biden is the subject............

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

First mistake: ATC supervisor let one of his employees leave early, making the tower short-handed.

Second mistake: She was flying a training mission, and should have known the correct altitude. She was not flying it.

Third mistake: The ATC asked "Do you see the airplane?" instead of "Do you see the airplane at your 10 o'clock?" She mistook the airplane ahead of American Airlines as the one ATC was referencing. Bad communication by ATC, deadly.

Final mistake: Neither she nor her trainer in the right seat noticed American Airlines jet, lights blazing, on final approach in standard flight pattern. All other mistakes aside, had either of the Blackhawk pilots been properly alert, no disaster.

I made a series of mistakes as solo pilot, but ultimately made corrections and that's why I am alive today.

The plane in the crash was on approach to an auxiliary runway that runs 10:00 - 4:00 and the helicopter was likely focused on planes on the 12:00 - 6:00, north/south, larger, more common runway. I’m sure that had a lot to do with visual confusion. This should have been clearly conveyed by the tower.
Regardless, the helicopter was in violation of altitude restrictions and appeared to be headed back in the direction of nearby Ft. Belvoir where it took off from.

 

[WEATHER53]

The crash came just days after President Donald Trump signed an order rescinding an FAA initiative begun during the Obama years that prioritized hiring those with "targeted disabilities," including "severe physical disabilities, psychiatric disabilities, and intellectual disabilities." Everyone who wants their lives to depend on such disabled people please shout it out.

Someone needs to create a meme like the one below, where a Lefty on a commercial jet is crying, "I just hope our pilot and air traffic controller are both physically, psychiatrically and intellectually disabled!"

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If you feel like Trumps orders two days beforehand had an immediate effect then it’s just your further descent into feelings hopes and wishes TDS madness

 

[Delldude]

The plane in the crash was on approach to an auxiliary runway that runs 10:00 - 4:00 and the helicopter was likely focused on planes on the 12:00 - 6:00, north/south, larger, more common runway. I’m sure that had a lot to do with visual confusion. This should have been clearly conveyed by the tower.
Regardless, the helicopter was in violation of altitude restrictions and appeared to be headed back in the direction of nearby Ft. Belvoir where it took off from.

You have to consider altitude and ground lighting as a possible contribution...........this BS the aircraft was all lit up totally visible is questionable. Lots of background lighting from the ground.

 

[Rawley]

She would have been responsible for communications with air traffic control, mapping/monitoring instrumentation, among other things.

At the end of the day, though, sometimes shit just happens.

This kind of shit doesn't "just happen[]", someone fucked up. We need to know who and how, so it doesn't happen again.

 

[Delldude]

THis kind of shit doesn't just happen, someone fucked up. We need to know who and how so it doesn't happen again.

Complacency. Several instances of the same thing happening a week before, causing go arounds.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

The discussion was Biden and the woman's services to him...............

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So it's nothing new to just when Biden was President.