Breaking News. Plane crash in DC. Collided with either helicopter or drone over Potomac.

[amethyst]

Airlines are safer now

Notice they are only safer after many die. That's the problem.

 

[TemplarKormac]

FAA lawsuit claims agency discriminated against air traffic controller applicants on the basis of race

A class action lawsuit filed against the Federal Aviation Administration accused the agency of hiring air traffic controllers solely based on race, not merit.

www.foxbusiness.com

Diversity in the Skies: FAA's Controversial Shift in Air Traffic Controller Hiring - View from the Wing

The FAA's move towards diversity-oriented hiring practices for air traffic controllers raises concerns over industry impact, although it doesn't appear to compromise safety.

viewfromthewing.com

 

[TemplarKormac]

The black box has been found.

 

[Bell Huey]

In controlled airspace it is usually ATC error. The pilots simply follow orders in controlled airspace.

The helicopter routes in DC are for the most part over the Potomac. The accident occured on Helicopter Route 4. At that point the MAX altitude for them is 200 feet. The accident is being reported as occurring at 400 feet.

Also, ATC did contact the Blackhawk asking if they saw the plane. They responded and requested visual separation meaning they would provide separation.

I also saw it is reported that Blackhawk crew was flying with night vision goggles.

Those are some things the investigators will have to work out.

 

[Ava]

So it’s a Trump assassination attempt type of communicationit systemic failure.

Still though, how did the pilot not see an airplane?

At one early point in the coverage of the collision, it was suggested the Black Hawk COULD have possibly had the auto-pilot on for some reason, thus not hearing the tower communication.

The above was when all kinds of early speculation was going on in early coverage.

 

[Winco]

Of course not. What was the cause of the collision? Now if it was a DEI pilot who should have been dismissed, you might have a point that the unqualified weren't sacked fast enough.

And when that is PROVEN to NOT be the case, can you blame trump or the drunkard Hegseth?

We know you are STILL trying to blame Biden.

 

[amethyst]

So it’s a Trump assassination attempt type of communication systemic failure.

Still though, how did the pilot not see an airplane?

It was dark. Mostly they are dependant on the ATC.

The assassination attempt? You mean when people in charge of Trump's security were in a building with a window which had clear view of the shooter aiming a rifle? You tell me. That had nothing to do with communication, rather it was vision. Everything about that seemed like an inside plan

 

[Lisa558]

You could start by abandoning eugenics, you seem to think non-white people are poorer workers than white people, you're a racist as we already know.

Do you approve of Jews who hire only other Jews?

And boom! Jews!

I approve of hiring the best qualified for any job, regardless of race or religion. That’s because I am not a bigot.

You, otoh, approve of hiring a black over a white even when the white is better qualified, because you ARE a bigot.

 

[odanny]

The dead include competitive figure skaters and their companions, including retired champions, athletic coaches and family members. The crash happened three days after the 2025 U.S. Figure Skating Championships — the most prestigious annual event on the American figure skating calendar — concluded in Wichita.

Two renowned Russian former figure skaters, Evgenia Shishkova and Vadim Naumov, were among the passengers, the Kremlin said. At a news briefing, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov did not name the two former champions, but he answered in the affirmative when asked whether they were aboard the flight.

 

[amethyst]

At one early point in the coverage of the collision, it was suggested the Black Hawk COULD have possibly had the auto-pilot on for some reason, thus not hearing the tower communication.

The above was when all kinds of early speculation was going on in early coverage.

We know he heard the communication but responded on a secondary channel.

 

[IM2]

Notice they are only safer after many die. That's the problem.

Actually many more live. We are more likely to die in a car wreck than in a plane crash.

 

[Scoutster]

Like I said, best wishes to the victims families and friends in this trying time. There was an issue no question about it. They need to root out the cause and make changes. But flying is a human endeavor. It’s always gonna have some risk.

 

[IM2]

Didn't trump just fire a bunch of federal employees?

 

[amethyst]

There was another plane crash in Canada last night. Another Olympic team? Sarcasm.

 

[Lisa558]

It forever changed and improved plane deicing

I flew on an Air Florida flight the very next week, and again, it was snowing. I watched out the window as they de-iced, and de-iced, and de-iced. I figured I was probably safer on that carrier than any other.

I will say, though, that passengers listened intently to the flight attendant’s instructions. There were even questions about the flotation device. As as we took off and lifted above the Key Bridge, there was total silence in the cabin.

 

[Lisa558]

Like I said, best wishes to the victims families and friends in this trying time. There was an issue no question about it. They need to root out the cause and make changes. But flying is a human endeavor. It’s always gonna have some risk.

Especially if policies demand “diversity” more than competence. But that will change now.

 

[amethyst]

Actually many more live. We are more likely to die in a car wreck than in a plane crash.

That's only because we have trained pilots and the drivers are, well, many are just plain stupid.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

There you go with the insults again, you little hypocrite you.

I make no apologies for describing her words as blatant racism and by implication that she is s racist:

It is WHITE people who are better candidates (and they are in 70% of the cases)

I'm a pilot. I have watched first hand the degradation of ATC quality as DEI has taken hold.

How did you determine that of all the factors and changes impinging upon ATC over the years, that all reductions in performance are attributable to DEI policies? For example increasing passenger volumes, aging technology infrastructure etc.

 

[WEATHER53]

The dead include competitive figure skaters and their companions, including retired champions, athletic coaches and family members. The crash happened three days after the 2025 U.S. Figure Skating Championships — the most prestigious annual event on the American figure skating calendar — concluded in Wichita.

Two renowned Russian former figure skaters, Evgenia Shishkova and Vadim Naumov, were among the passengers, the Kremlin said. At a news briefing, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov did not name the two former champions, but he answered in the affirmative when asked whether they were aboard the flight.

Just talked with my neighbor who knows the family from Haymarket whose daughter was a competitor. They are not sure she’s on that flight but they can’t reach her so far

 

[el midgetron]