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[martybegan]

Presidential immunity didn’t exist until Trump needed it to. Here we go! 6 conservative Supreme Court justices swoop in to make sure he can do whatever the fuck he wants without repercussions.

There’s only one kind of president that feels the need to have immunity and that’s someone intent on breaking the law. Again.

It always existed, it just wasn't questioned until Dems JUST HAD TO GET TRUMP over bullshit.

So FDR could have been charged for Pearl Harbor? Obama for allowing Russia to get the Crimea in 2014? Carter for allowing the Hostages to be taken in 1979?

None of those Presidents had ANY immunity? Zero? None?

 

[Marener]

It always existed, it just wasn't questioned until Dems JUST HAD TO GET TRUMP over bullshit.

So FDR could have been charged for Pearl Harbor? Obama for allowing Russia to get the Crimea in 2014? Carter for allowing the Hostages to be taken in 1979?

None of those Presidents had ANY immunity? Zero? None?

No one thought it existed before Trump. Hell, even Trumps own lawyers didn’t think it existed when he was being impeached. Know why? It’s not in the constitution. They made it up.

WTF are you talking about? How are any of your examples a criminal act by the president? This is gibberish.

 

[Nostra]

Presidential immunity didn’t exist until Trump needed it to. Here we go! 6 conservative Supreme Court justices swoop in to make sure he can do whatever the fuck he wants without repercussions.

There’s only one kind of president that feels the need to have immunity and that’s someone intent on breaking the law. Again.

All Presidents have had immunity for official acts, Moroner.

You are still lying, Moroner.

 

[martybegan]

No one thought it existed before Trump. Hell, even Trumps own lawyers didn’t think it existed when he was being impeached. Know why? It’s not in the constitution. They made it up.

WTF are you talking about? How are any of your examples a criminal act by the president? This is gibberish.

BULL FUCKING SHIT.

It existed, it was just never questioned. The Court had to answer the question.

That you can't understand the examples just shows how fucking retarded you are.

 

[Marener]

BULL FUCKING SHIT.

It existed, it was just never questioned. The Court had to answer the question.

That you can't understand the examples just shows how fucking retarded you are.

Who said it existed before now?

Mitch McConnell sure as hell never thought it existed when he voted to acquit Trump in 2021.

Why McConnell’s 2021 speech about Trump is suddenly relevant anew

The speech Mitch McConnell delivered after Donald Trump’s second impeachment trial was important at the time. It’s even more important now.

www.msnbc.com

Your examples are idiotic. The president does not violate a law when a foreign country commits an act. You really are a bad debater.

 

[eagle7-31]

No surprise. He faces a lot of jail time, but do you think he'll actually serve any time?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/16/politics/bob-menendez-verdict/index.html

The only reason there was a trial at all is that NJ has Dem Governor who can appoint a D replacement if need be. If NJ had a GOP Gov there most likely would not have been a trial at all.

 

[martybegan]

Who said it existed before now?

Mitch McConnell sure as hell never thought it existed when he voted to acquit Trump in 2021.

Why McConnell’s 2021 speech about Trump is suddenly relevant anew

The speech Mitch McConnell delivered after Donald Trump’s second impeachment trial was important at the time. It’s even more important now.

www.msnbc.com

Your examples are idiotic. The president does not violate a law when a foreign country commits an act. You really are a bad debater.

Impeachment is the actual process for removing a President from office for illegal acts. Anything else is unconstitutional.

My examples are of a President performing their presidential duties, and fucking up. Should they have been prosecuted for it?

Trump also didn't get complete immunity, as you keep ignoring.

I've beaten you silly in every thread you have been in with me.

 

[Marener]

Impeachment is the actual process for removing a President from office for illegal acts. Anything else is unconstitutional.

My examples are of a President performing their presidential duties, and fucking up. Should they have been prosecuted for it?

Trump also didn't get complete immunity, as you keep ignoring.

I've beaten you silly in every thread you have been in with me.

Fucking up isn’t against the law, dipshit.

You dodged where McConnell said Trump was subject to criminal prosecution. You’re gaslighting when you say presidential immunity was unquestioned. It wasn’t. Presidents being subject to criminal law was unquestioned.

 

[martybegan]

Fucking up isn’t against the law, dipshit.

You dodged where McConnell said Trump was subject to criminal prosecution. You’re gaslighting when you say presidential immunity was unquestioned. It wasn’t. Presidents being subject to criminal law was unquestioned.

Once he is impeached, and for actual criminal acts. Not some hissy fit bullshit lawfare crap.

 

[Marener]

Once he is impeached, and for actual criminal acts. Not some hissy fit bullshit lawfare crap.

McConnell voted to acquit him you dipshit!

Also SCOTUS rejected the claim that he must first be impeached before prosecuted.

Also, fucking up isn’t illegal so your examples are just so fucking stupid.

 

[krichton]

So you think Dimocrats set him up, arrested him, tried him, and found him guilty?

the DOJ and the FBI did. and according to maga they're controlled by the democrats so your conspiracy theories and logic are backfiring on you big time.

 

[krichton]

Dem / Socialists don't police their own. It was Republicans who decided that Biden and his crime family Syndicate be held accountable. Dems / Socialists allowed Hunter Biden to skate past his gun charges. Are Dems / Socialists policing Biden and his illegal open borders disaster?

At the start of every new presidential administration there is a process where every US attorney is asked to resign so new US attorneys can replace them. The one investigating Hunter at the time was the only one allowed to stay by Biden. The investigation would have ceased to exist if Biden simply exercised this routine move. Does this sound like democrats are letting Hunter Biden get away on gun charges? Is Bob Menendez getting away?

 

[krichton]

You see, the Dems police their own. Why can't Republicans do that?

Both parties are corrupt, but only the republicans have few if any qualms about giving up their most basic principles for party unity.

 

[martybegan]

McConnell voted to acquit him you dipshit!

Also SCOTUS rejected the claim that he must first be impeached before prosecuted.

Also, fucking up isn’t illegal so your examples are just so fucking stupid.

That's McConnell.

And yet you bitch about "total immunity" Get your bitching in order.

Dereliction of duty.

 

[Marener]

That's McConnell.

And yet you bitch about "total immunity" Get your bitching in order.

Dereliction of duty.

You said it was “unquestioned” dipshit. Apparently not. You’re just rewriting history because your brain is so twisted by partisanship you’ll believe anything you want.

Yeah, I do complain about total immunity because SCOTUS went FARTHER than Trump said because Trump said he could be prosecuted after impeachment and SCOTUS said he just can’t be prosecuted.

“Dereliction of duty” isn’t criminal law, dipshit.

 

[martybegan]

You said it was “unquestioned” dipshit. Apparently not. You’re just rewriting history because your brain is so twisted by partisanship you’ll believe anything you want.

Yeah, I do complain about total immunity because SCOTUS went FARTHER than Trump said because Trump said he could be prosecuted after impeachment and SCOTUS said he just can’t be prosecuted.

“Dereliction of duty” isn’t criminal law, dipshit.

What rewriting of history?

No one ever asked the question before about Presidential immunity, so that's why the court never had to explain it.

Dereliction of duty in American law - Wikipedia

 

[Marener]

What rewriting of history?

No one ever asked the question before about Presidential immunity, so that's why the court never had to explain it.

Dereliction of duty in American law - Wikipedia

It never existed. No one rational thought it existed. It was invented by conservative justices to protect Trump.

It always existed, it just wasn't questioned until Dems JUST HAD TO GET TRUMP over bullshit.

That is rewriting history. It wasn’t “questioned” because no one thought it existed.

It wasn’t questioned that the president could be prosecuted. That was the state of the nation until SCOTUS needed to protect Trump from the consequences of his own actions.

Read your link. 1. It applies to military personnel not the civilian president. 2. It applies to people who refuse to follow orders. Tell me dipshit, who gives the president orders?

God you’re so fucking stupid.

 

[martybegan]

It never existed. No one rational thought it existed. It was invented by conservative justices to protect Trump.



That is rewriting history. It wasn’t “questioned” because no one thought it existed.

It wasn’t questioned that the president could be prosecuted. That was the state of the nation until SCOTUS needed to protect Trump from the consequences of his own actions.

Read your link. 1. It applies to military personnel not the civilian president. 2. It applies to people who refuse to follow orders. Tell me dipshit, who gives the president orders?

God you’re so fucking stupid.

It always existed, it was just never quantified because no one before decided to gun for a President/Former President like Dems have.

It's still in the US code and still law. I was responding to your broad statement, dipshit.

 

[Marener]

It always existed, it was just never quantified because no one before decided to gun for a President/Former President like Dems have.

Where did it exist? Please tell me. Show me where it was.

It's still in the US code and still law. I was responding to your broad statement, dipshit.

It’s not applicable to the president, which was your brain dead claim. I was responding to your fucking stupid idea that Obama could be prosecuted because Russia took over Crimea.

 

[martybegan]

Where did it exist? Please tell me. Show me where it was.

It’s not applicable to the president, which was your brain dead claim. I was responding to your fucking stupid idea that Obama could be prosecuted because Russia took over Crimea.

Again, no one asked the question before, it was assumed you couldn't prosecute a US President for doing his job.

You claimed it wasn't criminal law, US military law is a subset of criminal law.