CDZ Brain power is out of control

What is surprising is that this problem is not more present in discussion. Evidence is all around us of the incredible human capacity for invention and understanding. At the same time, the incredibly stupid applications of this capacity should shock us into remedial measures.
 
NOBODY is practicing critical thinking on social media or EVEN in the "squawking head panel" version of event/news analysis.. ..
How would you do that anyway with just 64 characters?

People who get their news from the Chyron graphic bar don't have issue with character
When God gives you every plant and animal for YOUR benefit and asks politely -- just don't mess with MY fruit tree -- that's somehow elevated into a symbol for remaining remaining dumb and stupid.. That's more than idiosyncratic navigation...

You actually think the "Tree of Knowledge" is best understood to be a fruit tree?

In the same fashion that the Torah is often referred to as the Tree of Life? Sure.. In Hebrew, it's not a tree of SIMPLY knowledge. It's a tree of knowledge of GOOD and EVIL... Picking at THAT tree and experimenting with Good/Evil is simply a harder life than relying on the commandments and good will in that Tree of Life book that God authored...

This all says NOTHING about being cursed to remain stupid.. Says NOTHING about Jews not winning their fairer share of Nobel prizes or EXCELLING in difficult tasks.. It's simply laying out a map for where you GRAZE when determining your moral structure..

Not a weapon of God in any way to restrict your ability to explore and reason and create...
 
Humans invented language with their brain. Language controls thinking in the brain. Thinking influences perception in the brain.
All reductions of the Absolute to words can never be more than metaphor. The words we invent for describing 'God' and religious experience can at best give an indication of these things, but can never define them. When the words are taken for more than that, they deceive.
 
When God gives you every plant and animal for YOUR benefit and asks politely -- just don't mess with MY fruit tree -- that's somehow elevated into a symbol for remaining remaining dumb and stupid.. That's more than idiosyncratic navigation...

You actually think the "Tree of Knowledge" is best understood to be a fruit tree?

In the same fashion that the Torah is often referred to as the Tree of Life? Sure.. In Hebrew, it's not a tree of SIMPLY knowledge. It's a tree of knowledge of GOOD and EVIL... Picking at THAT tree and experimenting with Good/Evil is simply a harder life than relying on the commandments and good will in that Tree of Life book that God authored...

This all says NOTHING about being cursed to remain stupid.. Says NOTHING about Jews not winning their fairer share of Nobel prizes or EXCELLING in difficult tasks.. It's simply laying out a map for where you GRAZE when determining your moral structure..

Not a weapon of God in any way to restrict your ability to explore and reason and create...

Ah, the bible is talking about physics and Nobel Prizes...

In the ancient context, plowing a field or baking bread involve skills. These skills may command a certain respect, but they are not "knowledge". Knowledge of good and evil is the only knowledge there is. Telling good and evil apart on one's own is the only way for a self-determined life. All else is the life of a cow. Eating, digesting, defecating, and procreating, and being led around by the nose, that is it.
 
Are we doomed to continuing to use the brain in excess of our power to control ourselves, thus sooner or later eliciting extinction from the universe?
Holy crap, what an incredibly interesting, big-picture topic. Kudos, big time.

It's as if there is a race going on - will our emotions win and we use what we have created to destroy ourselves, or will our intellect win and allow us to control our baser impulses before it's too late?

Early returns are not promising, not when we have people who choose to create and live in essentially 17th century conditions looking to destroy others with 21st century tech. It also does appear that we're allowing technology to replace our most important critical thinking skills.

One thing we may not have realized as we continued to develop more advanced materials and technology was that those very things would make us intellectually lazy and reliant. And, perhaps most dangerous of all, incurious. We see that across our culture and (obviously) politics right now. Our best qualities are fading.

Where does that lead us next?
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Are we doomed to continuing to use the brain in excess of our power to control ourselves, thus sooner or later eliciting extinction from the universe?
Holy crap, what an incredibly interesting, big-picture topic. Kudos, big time.

It's as if there is a race going on - will our emotions win and we use what we have created to destroy ourselves, or will our intellect win and allow us to control our baser impulses before it's too late?

Early returns are not promising, not when we have people who choose to create and live in essentially 17th century conditions looking to destroy others with 21st century tech. It also does appear that we're allowing technology to replace our most important critical thinking skills.

One thing we may not have realized as we continued to develop more advanced materials and technology was that those very things would make us intellectually lazy and reliant. And, perhaps most dangerous of all, incurious. We see that across our culture and (obviously) politics right now. Our best qualities are fading.

Where does that lead us next?
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An interesting point about our race is that small groups and individuals often establish the essentials for next steps on the grand scale. Small example; Gorbachev, despite being the product of a severe political system had the realism to peacefully resolve the impasse of Soviet decline. I would have thought the 'old régime' would at least have used its military might to hang on till the end.
What if someone or group developed technology that would prohibit humanity's self destructive tendencies?
In any case, it doesn't look as if we could count on collective intelligence. All that grey matter currently applies itself to illusion and waste.
 
Are we doomed to continuing to use the brain in excess of our power to control ourselves, thus sooner or later eliciting extinction from the universe?
Holy crap, what an incredibly interesting, big-picture topic. Kudos, big time.

It's as if there is a race going on - will our emotions win and we use what we have created to destroy ourselves, or will our intellect win and allow us to control our baser impulses before it's too late?

Early returns are not promising, not when we have people who choose to create and live in essentially 17th century conditions looking to destroy others with 21st century tech. It also does appear that we're allowing technology to replace our most important critical thinking skills.

One thing we may not have realized as we continued to develop more advanced materials and technology was that those very things would make us intellectually lazy and reliant. And, perhaps most dangerous of all, incurious. We see that across our culture and (obviously) politics right now. Our best qualities are fading.

Where does that lead us next?
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An interesting point about our race is that small groups and individuals often establish the essentials for next steps on the grand scale. Small example; Gorbachev, despite being the product of a severe political system had the realism to peacefully resolve the impasse of Soviet decline. I would have thought the 'old régime' would at least have used its military might to hang on till the end.
What if someone or group developed technology that would prohibit humanity's self destructive tendencies?
In any case, it doesn't look as if we could count on collective intelligence. All that grey matter currently applies itself to illusion and waste.
Yeah, there are a few examples of intellect overcoming dogma, but not nearly enough at the moment. And the trajectory certainly seems to be going in the opposite direction.

Interesting thought about developing a technology that could help us control our worst impulses. That doesn't seem terribly farfetched, but even that could come with inherent risks, since before it could be used for bad BEFORE it could be used for good.
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"Eagle's" Milton quotation is quite apt to this discussion. The brain power is there to do more than we have so far imagined. It is the direction that is in doubt.
 
Are we doomed to continuing to use the brain in excess of our power to control ourselves, thus sooner or later eliciting extinction from the universe?
Holy crap, what an incredibly interesting, big-picture topic. Kudos, big time.

It's as if there is a race going on - will our emotions win and we use what we have created to destroy ourselves, or will our intellect win and allow us to control our baser impulses before it's too late?

Early returns are not promising, not when we have people who choose to create and live in essentially 17th century conditions looking to destroy others with 21st century tech. It also does appear that we're allowing technology to replace our most important critical thinking skills.

One thing we may not have realized as we continued to develop more advanced materials and technology was that those very things would make us intellectually lazy and reliant. And, perhaps most dangerous of all, incurious. We see that across our culture and (obviously) politics right now. Our best qualities are fading.

Where does that lead us next?
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Christ returns.
 
Yeah, there are a few examples of intellect overcoming dogma, but not nearly enough at the moment.
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Intellect can never overcome dogma because dogma is above intellect being based fairly directly on axiomatic Truths, at least as perceived by the believers.

Intellectual arguments can never defeat faith; but faith can become lost in excessive wealth and pleasure.

The affluence of the west has done far more damage to Christianity than the sharpest critique ever could.
 
Are we doomed to continuing to use the brain in excess of our power to control ourselves, thus sooner or later eliciting extinction from the universe?
Holy crap, what an incredibly interesting, big-picture topic. Kudos, big time.

It's as if there is a race going on - will our emotions win and we use what we have created to destroy ourselves, or will our intellect win and allow us to control our baser impulses before it's too late?

Early returns are not promising, not when we have people who choose to create and live in essentially 17th century conditions looking to destroy others with 21st century tech. It also does appear that we're allowing technology to replace our most important critical thinking skills.

One thing we may not have realized as we continued to develop more advanced materials and technology was that those very things would make us intellectually lazy and reliant. And, perhaps most dangerous of all, incurious. We see that across our culture and (obviously) politics right now. Our best qualities are fading.

Where does that lead us next?
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Christ returns.

Check his DNA.
 
"Good" and "evil" are only in the universe in so far that they are in the mind of man.

No, good and evil are as real as the matter in your hand, and they do far more constructive and destructive things than man will ever find enough oil to duplicate.
As we now know that "matter" itself is illusion, what is declared in the above post affirms what was said earlier about "good" and "evil". These are 'things' that, after all, are the manifestations of how we perceive combined with how the mind works. They are equally "real", meaning equally subjective.
 
As we now know that "matter" itself is illusion, what is declared in the above post affirms what was said earlier about "good" and "evil". These are 'things' that, after all, are the manifestations of how we perceive combined with how the mind works. They are equally "real", meaning equally subjective.
So how real would a bullet in your head be? Purely subjective?

I am not threatening you, I hope you realize that, but I am making a point.

Reality is that intrusive environment we 'live' in that forces us to change our behavior given certain circumstances.

So Love, integrity, morals, good, evil, sine and cosine are all intangible but nonetheless very real and exist at some level.

Not everything that matters is matter.
 
As we now know that "matter" itself is illusion, what is declared in the above post affirms what was said earlier about "good" and "evil". These are 'things' that, after all, are the manifestations of how we perceive combined with how the mind works. They are equally "real", meaning equally subjective.
So how real would a bullet in your head be? Purely subjective?

I am not threatening you, I hope you realize that, but I am making a point.

Reality is that intrusive environment we 'live' in that forces us to change our behavior given certain circumstances.

So Love, integrity, morals, good, evil, sine and cosine are all intangible but nonetheless very real and exist at some level.

Not everything that matters is matter.
If a bullet were to pass through my brain, nothing would matter anymore.
 
Intellect can never overcome dogma because dogma is above intellect being based fairly directly on axiomatic Truths, at least as perceived by the believers.
Agreed, and that's what has me concerned here.

I say it all the time - dogma and ideology can take a perfectly intelligent person and distort both their perceptions and their thought processes. It appears pretty clear to me that it has significantly more power than intellect. Just as a bad virus can bring down a strong and healthy athlete.

What does that say about the future? Well, there's not much I can do about it.
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