Boycott Israel

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Only time will tell.

The Palestinians are leaving Fatah and Hamas behind. They have little relevance to their peace efforts.

(COMMENT)

Do you think for one moment that HAMAS will not kill the first Gaza Resident that jumps up and disapproves of their activities, or supports someone else. Similarly Fatah is not just going to fold its tent and close-up shop.

Every since Arab Palestinian that has come to power does it because of the money, power, and influence it brings.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Phoenall]

]P F Tinmore, et al,

You are just so full of crap.

(COMMENT)

The Arab Palestinians get this wrong intentionally so that over time, people forget that "Palestine" (with hard boundaries) was defined by the Allied Powers; formally accepted in 1924.

Prior to the Treaty of Sevres, the term Palestine was nothing more than a Regional Name that extended across parts of several political sub-divisions of the Ottoman Empire. Those sub-divisions included the Independent Sanjuk of Jerusalem, the Sanjuk of Baaqa, Sanjuk of Acre, and the Sanjuk of Beriut (which made-up half of the Vilayet of Beriut, --- plus portions of the souther Vilayet of Syria.

In 1920, the region you are referring to was established by The High Contracting Parties agree to entrust, by application of the provisions of Article 22, the administration of Palestine, within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers, to a Mandatory to be selected by the said Powers.

In 1922, the Order in Council (League of Nations) designated that "the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine." ("Palestine" was a short title for the Territory under the Mandate.)

On May 15, 1923, Britain formally recognized the Emirate of Transjordan as a state under the leadership of Emir Abdullah. The Anglo-Trans-Jordan Treaty stipulated that Transjordan would be prepared for independence under the general supervision of the British high commissioner in Jerusalem, and recognized Emir Abdullah as head of state. In May 1925, the Aqaba and Ma’an districts of the Hijaz became part of Transjordan.

By 1988 the UN system designated the Palestine Liberation Organization as "Palestine" in A/RES/43/177 wherein it said: "the designation "Palestine" should be used in place of the designation "Palestine Liberation Organization" in the United Nations system.

However, in 2012 (A/RES/67/19), when the UN "Reaffirmed the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination and to independence in their State of Palestine on the Palestinian territory occupied since 1967." Notice, that the State of Palestine is equated to the territory occupied since 1967.

As you can see, the extent to which the territory was modified was considerable between the time of the Armistice of Mudros and when the transfer of territory from the sovereign Kingdom of the Hijaz was accomplished.

REBUTTAL: I could not agree more, the way you use the term "Palestine" is (sometime intentionally) misleading. I try to keep the terms in context to their meaning or designation.

I realize that what we can write here in this discussion could never compare to the 4 volumes, 2,500 pages, including 1 map box that contain all the details. But in no case, was there a Political Subdivision at anytime in the 20th Century known as "Palestine." Nor did the "Palestinian People have either "Title or Rights" to any sovereign territory.

Most Respectfully,
R​

In 1920, the region you are referring to was established by The High Contracting Parties agree to entrust, by application of the provisions of Article 22, the administration of Palestine, within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers, to a Mandatory to be selected by the said Powers.​

Indeed.

What is the current situation, Tinmore and what do you think will transpire?

It's looking pretty good. The Palestinians have a multi faceted world wide plan to promote Palestine and Palestinian rights.

BDS is only one of them.

So why are the palestinians banning BDS in palestine ?

You are confusing the US installed, unelected government with the people.

It was a free vote that hamas won and they are the duly elected government of palestine, so they MUST be making the laws. Or are you now saying that the arab league is once more taking control and interfering in the palestinians right to free determination ?

 

[Phoenall]

]P F Tinmore, et al,

You are just so full of crap.

(COMMENT)

The Arab Palestinians get this wrong intentionally so that over time, people forget that "Palestine" (with hard boundaries) was defined by the Allied Powers; formally accepted in 1924.

Prior to the Treaty of Sevres, the term Palestine was nothing more than a Regional Name that extended across parts of several political sub-divisions of the Ottoman Empire. Those sub-divisions included the Independent Sanjuk of Jerusalem, the Sanjuk of Baaqa, Sanjuk of Acre, and the Sanjuk of Beriut (which made-up half of the Vilayet of Beriut, --- plus portions of the souther Vilayet of Syria.

In 1920, the region you are referring to was established by The High Contracting Parties agree to entrust, by application of the provisions of Article 22, the administration of Palestine, within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers, to a Mandatory to be selected by the said Powers.

In 1922, the Order in Council (League of Nations) designated that "the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine." ("Palestine" was a short title for the Territory under the Mandate.)

On May 15, 1923, Britain formally recognized the Emirate of Transjordan as a state under the leadership of Emir Abdullah. The Anglo-Trans-Jordan Treaty stipulated that Transjordan would be prepared for independence under the general supervision of the British high commissioner in Jerusalem, and recognized Emir Abdullah as head of state. In May 1925, the Aqaba and Ma’an districts of the Hijaz became part of Transjordan.

By 1988 the UN system designated the Palestine Liberation Organization as "Palestine" in A/RES/43/177 wherein it said: "the designation "Palestine" should be used in place of the designation "Palestine Liberation Organization" in the United Nations system.

However, in 2012 (A/RES/67/19), when the UN "Reaffirmed the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination and to independence in their State of Palestine on the Palestinian territory occupied since 1967." Notice, that the State of Palestine is equated to the territory occupied since 1967.

As you can see, the extent to which the territory was modified was considerable between the time of the Armistice of Mudros and when the transfer of territory from the sovereign Kingdom of the Hijaz was accomplished.

REBUTTAL: I could not agree more, the way you use the term "Palestine" is (sometime intentionally) misleading. I try to keep the terms in context to their meaning or designation.

I realize that what we can write here in this discussion could never compare to the 4 volumes, 2,500 pages, including 1 map box that contain all the details. But in no case, was there a Political Subdivision at anytime in the 20th Century known as "Palestine." Nor did the "Palestinian People have either "Title or Rights" to any sovereign territory.

Most Respectfully,
R​

In 1920, the region you are referring to was established by The High Contracting Parties agree to entrust, by application of the provisions of Article 22, the administration of Palestine, within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers, to a Mandatory to be selected by the said Powers.​

Indeed.

What is the current situation, Tinmore and what do you think will transpire?

It's looking pretty good. The Palestinians have a multi faceted world wide plan to promote Palestine and Palestinian rights.

BDS is only one of them.

Sounds like you're in the clique to have that information. The question is: Do they have a plan for peace?

It is all about peace. Nobody wants war.

Apart from the palestinians that elected a terrorist group to rule them knowing that they wanted all out war with Israel. The only peace they want is one that sees the Jews bodies piled high in the streets and the nation of Israel destroyed

 

[Phoenall]

What is the current situation, Tinmore and what do you think will transpire?

It's looking pretty good. The Palestinians have a multi faceted world wide plan to promote Palestine and Palestinian rights.

BDS is only one of them.

Sounds like you're in the clique to have that information. The question is: Do they have a plan for peace?

It is all about peace. Nobody wants war.

Nonsense. The Hamas Charter is simply a reiteration of the hate and war manual that was inflicted on humanity by an Arab warlord.

The Palestinians are leaving Fatah and Hamas behind. They have little relevance to their peace efforts.

What are you smoking as hamas and fatah are firmly entrenched as ever in palestine and call all the shots. The palestinians either give in to them or end up being "executed", so how are they leaving hamas and fatah behind

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Only time will tell.

The Palestinians are leaving Fatah and Hamas behind. They have little relevance to their peace efforts.

(COMMENT)

Do you think for one moment that HAMAS will not kill the first Gaza Resident that jumps up and disapproves of their activities, or supports someone else. Similarly Fatah is not just going to fold its tent and close-up shop.

Every since Arab Palestinian that has come to power does it because of the money, power, and influence it brings.

Most Respectfully,
R

Good point.

And who supplies that money, power, and influence? Hmmm?

 

[Hollie]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Only time will tell.

The Palestinians are leaving Fatah and Hamas behind. They have little relevance to their peace efforts.

(COMMENT)

Do you think for one moment that HAMAS will not kill the first Gaza Resident that jumps up and disapproves of their activities, or supports someone else. Similarly Fatah is not just going to fold its tent and close-up shop.

Every since Arab Palestinian that has come to power does it because of the money, power, and influence it brings.

Most Respectfully,
R

Good point.

And who supplies that money, power, and influence? Hmmm?

UNRWA, the dedicated welfare fraud program that continues to fund islamic terrorism supplies the money. Power and influence comes from the Islamist terrorist kingpins who make themselves incredibly rich while exploiting the previously mentioned islamic terrorist welfare program.

 

[Hossfly]

]P F Tinmore, et al,

You are just so full of crap.

P F Tinmore, et al,

Is this your circular logic coming back.

P F Tinmore, Hossfly, Challenger, et al,

Do you hear yourself?

(COMMENT)

Of course the Arab Palestinians have the right to oppose anything they want. And they must accept the consequences and outcomes. This too is part of the "Right of Self-Determination."

HOWEVER, the Arab Palestinians cannot stop, interfere or use force to prevent the Israelis from using their "Right of Self-Determination."

There was no requirement that both must make an acceptance. The Jewish Provisional Government accepted their option and the Arab Higher Committee rejected their option.

Most Respectfully,
R

HOWEVER, the Arab Palestinians cannot stop, interfere or use force to prevent the Israelis from using their "Right of Self-Determination."​

On the flipside, Israel cannot interfere in the rights of the Palestinians.

(COMMENT)

Going around in circles does not address the question. The Jewish Provisional Government acted in accordance with the UN Recommendations. The fact that the Arab League made a failed attempt to take be force the territory, and withhold the establishment of the Jewish National Home set the conditions for certain outcomes. These outcomes had certain consequences that the Arab Palestinians are just going to have to live with.

I'm not sure if the Jewish State of Israel has to do anything at all; assuming the Arab Palestinians continue to set the conditions for eace talks.

Most Respectfully,
R

The fact that the Arab League made a failed attempt to take be force the territory,​

It is not "the territory," it is Palestine. Using the term "the territory" is purposefully misleading.

(COMMENT)

The Arab Palestinians get this wrong intentionally so that over time, people forget that "Palestine" (with hard boundaries) was defined by the Allied Powers; formally accepted in 1924.

Prior to the Treaty of Sevres, the term Palestine was nothing more than a Regional Name that extended across parts of several political sub-divisions of the Ottoman Empire. Those sub-divisions included the Independent Sanjuk of Jerusalem, the Sanjuk of Baaqa, Sanjuk of Acre, and the Sanjuk of Beriut (which made-up half of the Vilayet of Beriut, --- plus portions of the souther Vilayet of Syria.

In 1920, the region you are referring to was established by The High Contracting Parties agree to entrust, by application of the provisions of Article 22, the administration of Palestine, within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers, to a Mandatory to be selected by the said Powers.

In 1922, the Order in Council (League of Nations) designated that "the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine." ("Palestine" was a short title for the Territory under the Mandate.)

On May 15, 1923, Britain formally recognized the Emirate of Transjordan as a state under the leadership of Emir Abdullah. The Anglo-Trans-Jordan Treaty stipulated that Transjordan would be prepared for independence under the general supervision of the British high commissioner in Jerusalem, and recognized Emir Abdullah as head of state. In May 1925, the Aqaba and Ma’an districts of the Hijaz became part of Transjordan.

By 1988 the UN system designated the Palestine Liberation Organization as "Palestine" in A/RES/43/177 wherein it said: "the designation "Palestine" should be used in place of the designation "Palestine Liberation Organization" in the United Nations system.

However, in 2012 (A/RES/67/19), when the UN "Reaffirmed the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination and to independence in their State of Palestine on the Palestinian territory occupied since 1967." Notice, that the State of Palestine is equated to the territory occupied since 1967.

As you can see, the extent to which the territory was modified was considerable between the time of the Armistice of Mudros and when the transfer of territory from the sovereign Kingdom of the Hijaz was accomplished.

REBUTTAL: I could not agree more, the way you use the term "Palestine" is (sometime intentionally) misleading. I try to keep the terms in context to their meaning or designation.

I realize that what we can write here in this discussion could never compare to the 4 volumes, 2,500 pages, including 1 map box that contain all the details. But in no case, was there a Political Subdivision at anytime in the 20th Century known as "Palestine." Nor did the "Palestinian People have either "Title or Rights" to any sovereign territory.

Most Respectfully,
R​

But in no case, was there a Political Subdivision at anytime in the 20th Century known as "Palestine." Nor did the "Palestinian People have either "Title or Rights" to any sovereign territory.​

I believe your assessment is incorrect. Let's look at some facts.

• Palestine is a territory whose international borders were defined by post war treaties. It was called a successor state by several documents of the time. Palestine was called a country ten times in the Mandate's own founding document.
• Neither the LoN nor the Mandate claimed title and rights to the territory. They merely held that territory in trust for the inhabitants and were to assist those inhabitants to independence.
• The Palestinians are the legal inhabitants and the legal citizens of Palestine. That is the criteria for the standard list of inherent, inalienable rights. No matter what rights others may have, or believe they have, there is one right they do not have. There is no right to violate the rights of others.

"I believe your assessment is incorrect. Let's look at some facts, ......... blah blah blah ."

Tinmore, I tend to believe that you're either taking night courses in Creative Writing 101 or else you are having someone do your writing for you. Which is it?

 

[Hossfly]

]P F Tinmore, et al,

You are just so full of crap.

P F Tinmore, et al,

Is this your circular logic coming back.

(COMMENT)

Going around in circles does not address the question. The Jewish Provisional Government acted in accordance with the UN Recommendations. The fact that the Arab League made a failed attempt to take be force the territory, and withhold the establishment of the Jewish National Home set the conditions for certain outcomes. These outcomes had certain consequences that the Arab Palestinians are just going to have to live with.

I'm not sure if the Jewish State of Israel has to do anything at all; assuming the Arab Palestinians continue to set the conditions for eace talks.

Most Respectfully,
R

The fact that the Arab League made a failed attempt to take be force the territory,​

It is not "the territory," it is Palestine. Using the term "the territory" is purposefully misleading.

(COMMENT)

The Arab Palestinians get this wrong intentionally so that over time, people forget that "Palestine" (with hard boundaries) was defined by the Allied Powers; formally accepted in 1924.

Prior to the Treaty of Sevres, the term Palestine was nothing more than a Regional Name that extended across parts of several political sub-divisions of the Ottoman Empire. Those sub-divisions included the Independent Sanjuk of Jerusalem, the Sanjuk of Baaqa, Sanjuk of Acre, and the Sanjuk of Beriut (which made-up half of the Vilayet of Beriut, --- plus portions of the souther Vilayet of Syria.

In 1920, the region you are referring to was established by The High Contracting Parties agree to entrust, by application of the provisions of Article 22, the administration of Palestine, within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers, to a Mandatory to be selected by the said Powers.

In 1922, the Order in Council (League of Nations) designated that "the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine." ("Palestine" was a short title for the Territory under the Mandate.)

On May 15, 1923, Britain formally recognized the Emirate of Transjordan as a state under the leadership of Emir Abdullah. The Anglo-Trans-Jordan Treaty stipulated that Transjordan would be prepared for independence under the general supervision of the British high commissioner in Jerusalem, and recognized Emir Abdullah as head of state. In May 1925, the Aqaba and Ma’an districts of the Hijaz became part of Transjordan.

By 1988 the UN system designated the Palestine Liberation Organization as "Palestine" in A/RES/43/177 wherein it said: "the designation "Palestine" should be used in place of the designation "Palestine Liberation Organization" in the United Nations system.

However, in 2012 (A/RES/67/19), when the UN "Reaffirmed the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination and to independence in their State of Palestine on the Palestinian territory occupied since 1967." Notice, that the State of Palestine is equated to the territory occupied since 1967.

As you can see, the extent to which the territory was modified was considerable between the time of the Armistice of Mudros and when the transfer of territory from the sovereign Kingdom of the Hijaz was accomplished.

REBUTTAL: I could not agree more, the way you use the term "Palestine" is (sometime intentionally) misleading. I try to keep the terms in context to their meaning or designation.

I realize that what we can write here in this discussion could never compare to the 4 volumes, 2,500 pages, including 1 map box that contain all the details. But in no case, was there a Political Subdivision at anytime in the 20th Century known as "Palestine." Nor did the "Palestinian People have either "Title or Rights" to any sovereign territory.

Most Respectfully,
R​

In 1920, the region you are referring to was established by The High Contracting Parties agree to entrust, by application of the provisions of Article 22, the administration of Palestine, within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers, to a Mandatory to be selected by the said Powers.​

Indeed.

What is the current situation, Tinmore and what do you think will transpire?

It's looking pretty good. The Palestinians have a multi faceted world wide plan to promote Palestine and Palestinian rights.

BDS is only one of them.

Tinmore, is this the information you are privy to? What a useless, destructive move this is for the Palestinian people.


According to an article published by the Israeli website Walla Jan. 15, Levy had announced his plan to build a shopping mall — which is currently under construction — to promote Israeli-Palestinian coexistence in Jerusalem by attracting Palestinian businessmen to buy or lease shops in the mall, Palestinian customers and Israelis living in nearby settlements. Levy’s plan sparked an angry reaction from many Palestinians.

The mall is being built in the Qalandiya industrial area, Atarot, which lies north of Jerusalem, just meters from Faisal al-Husseini International Stadium, the home of the Palestinian national football team. This area is classified as Area C and the industrial zone is considered a settlement area. Palestinians living in Jerusalem as well as residents of Ramallah and the surrounding villages are allowed access to this area, as the mall is located at its entrance.

On July 2, the Palestinian Consumer Protection Society threatened to reveal the names of the Palestinian companies that sought partnership with Levy, put them on the Palestinian blacklist, boycott them and urge the Palestinian Chamber of Commerce to freeze their memberships.

The general coordinator of the BDS movement, Mahmoud Nawajaa, told Al-Monitor that the movement is ready to launch an open campaign against the Palestinian parties that plan to team up with Levy.



Read more: BDS movement targets Palestinian investors in West Bank mall

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Only time will tell.

The Palestinians are leaving Fatah and Hamas behind. They have little relevance to their peace efforts.

(COMMENT)

Do you think for one moment that HAMAS will not kill the first Gaza Resident that jumps up and disapproves of their activities, or supports someone else. Similarly Fatah is not just going to fold its tent and close-up shop.

Every since Arab Palestinian that has come to power does it because of the money, power, and influence it brings.

Most Respectfully,
R

Good point.

And who supplies that money, power, and influence? Hmmm?

The arab league and the UN combined of course. Unless you know differently and can find a link to some islamonazi site that says differently ?

 

[P F Tinmore]

]P F Tinmore, et al,

You are just so full of crap.

The fact that the Arab League made a failed attempt to take be force the territory,​

It is not "the territory," it is Palestine. Using the term "the territory" is purposefully misleading.

(COMMENT)

The Arab Palestinians get this wrong intentionally so that over time, people forget that "Palestine" (with hard boundaries) was defined by the Allied Powers; formally accepted in 1924.

Prior to the Treaty of Sevres, the term Palestine was nothing more than a Regional Name that extended across parts of several political sub-divisions of the Ottoman Empire. Those sub-divisions included the Independent Sanjuk of Jerusalem, the Sanjuk of Baaqa, Sanjuk of Acre, and the Sanjuk of Beriut (which made-up half of the Vilayet of Beriut, --- plus portions of the souther Vilayet of Syria.

In 1920, the region you are referring to was established by The High Contracting Parties agree to entrust, by application of the provisions of Article 22, the administration of Palestine, within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers, to a Mandatory to be selected by the said Powers.

In 1922, the Order in Council (League of Nations) designated that "the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine." ("Palestine" was a short title for the Territory under the Mandate.)

On May 15, 1923, Britain formally recognized the Emirate of Transjordan as a state under the leadership of Emir Abdullah. The Anglo-Trans-Jordan Treaty stipulated that Transjordan would be prepared for independence under the general supervision of the British high commissioner in Jerusalem, and recognized Emir Abdullah as head of state. In May 1925, the Aqaba and Ma’an districts of the Hijaz became part of Transjordan.

By 1988 the UN system designated the Palestine Liberation Organization as "Palestine" in A/RES/43/177 wherein it said: "the designation "Palestine" should be used in place of the designation "Palestine Liberation Organization" in the United Nations system.

However, in 2012 (A/RES/67/19), when the UN "Reaffirmed the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination and to independence in their State of Palestine on the Palestinian territory occupied since 1967." Notice, that the State of Palestine is equated to the territory occupied since 1967.

As you can see, the extent to which the territory was modified was considerable between the time of the Armistice of Mudros and when the transfer of territory from the sovereign Kingdom of the Hijaz was accomplished.

REBUTTAL: I could not agree more, the way you use the term "Palestine" is (sometime intentionally) misleading. I try to keep the terms in context to their meaning or designation.

I realize that what we can write here in this discussion could never compare to the 4 volumes, 2,500 pages, including 1 map box that contain all the details. But in no case, was there a Political Subdivision at anytime in the 20th Century known as "Palestine." Nor did the "Palestinian People have either "Title or Rights" to any sovereign territory.

Most Respectfully,
R​

In 1920, the region you are referring to was established by The High Contracting Parties agree to entrust, by application of the provisions of Article 22, the administration of Palestine, within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers, to a Mandatory to be selected by the said Powers.​

Indeed.

What is the current situation, Tinmore and what do you think will transpire?

It's looking pretty good. The Palestinians have a multi faceted world wide plan to promote Palestine and Palestinian rights.

BDS is only one of them.

Tinmore, is this the information you are privy to? What a useless, destructive move this is for the Palestinian people.


According to an article published by the Israeli website Walla Jan. 15, Levy had announced his plan to build a shopping mall — which is currently under construction — to promote Israeli-Palestinian coexistence in Jerusalem by attracting Palestinian businessmen to buy or lease shops in the mall, Palestinian customers and Israelis living in nearby settlements. Levy’s plan sparked an angry reaction from many Palestinians.

The mall is being built in the Qalandiya industrial area, Atarot, which lies north of Jerusalem, just meters from Faisal al-Husseini International Stadium, the home of the Palestinian national football team. This area is classified as Area C and the industrial zone is considered a settlement area. Palestinians living in Jerusalem as well as residents of Ramallah and the surrounding villages are allowed access to this area, as the mall is located at its entrance.

On July 2, the Palestinian Consumer Protection Society threatened to reveal the names of the Palestinian companies that sought partnership with Levy, put them on the Palestinian blacklist, boycott them and urge the Palestinian Chamber of Commerce to freeze their memberships.

The general coordinator of the BDS movement, Mahmoud Nawajaa, told Al-Monitor that the movement is ready to launch an open campaign against the Palestinian parties that plan to team up with Levy.



Read more: BDS movement targets Palestinian investors in West Bank mall

Why should the Israelis get to build assets in Palestine while the Palestinians get theirs bulldozed.

 

[Hossfly]

]P F Tinmore, et al,

You are just so full of crap.

(COMMENT)

The Arab Palestinians get this wrong intentionally so that over time, people forget that "Palestine" (with hard boundaries) was defined by the Allied Powers; formally accepted in 1924.

Prior to the Treaty of Sevres, the term Palestine was nothing more than a Regional Name that extended across parts of several political sub-divisions of the Ottoman Empire. Those sub-divisions included the Independent Sanjuk of Jerusalem, the Sanjuk of Baaqa, Sanjuk of Acre, and the Sanjuk of Beriut (which made-up half of the Vilayet of Beriut, --- plus portions of the souther Vilayet of Syria.

In 1920, the region you are referring to was established by The High Contracting Parties agree to entrust, by application of the provisions of Article 22, the administration of Palestine, within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers, to a Mandatory to be selected by the said Powers.

In 1922, the Order in Council (League of Nations) designated that "the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine." ("Palestine" was a short title for the Territory under the Mandate.)

On May 15, 1923, Britain formally recognized the Emirate of Transjordan as a state under the leadership of Emir Abdullah. The Anglo-Trans-Jordan Treaty stipulated that Transjordan would be prepared for independence under the general supervision of the British high commissioner in Jerusalem, and recognized Emir Abdullah as head of state. In May 1925, the Aqaba and Ma’an districts of the Hijaz became part of Transjordan.

By 1988 the UN system designated the Palestine Liberation Organization as "Palestine" in A/RES/43/177 wherein it said: "the designation "Palestine" should be used in place of the designation "Palestine Liberation Organization" in the United Nations system.

However, in 2012 (A/RES/67/19), when the UN "Reaffirmed the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination and to independence in their State of Palestine on the Palestinian territory occupied since 1967." Notice, that the State of Palestine is equated to the territory occupied since 1967.

As you can see, the extent to which the territory was modified was considerable between the time of the Armistice of Mudros and when the transfer of territory from the sovereign Kingdom of the Hijaz was accomplished.

REBUTTAL: I could not agree more, the way you use the term "Palestine" is (sometime intentionally) misleading. I try to keep the terms in context to their meaning or designation.

I realize that what we can write here in this discussion could never compare to the 4 volumes, 2,500 pages, including 1 map box that contain all the details. But in no case, was there a Political Subdivision at anytime in the 20th Century known as "Palestine." Nor did the "Palestinian People have either "Title or Rights" to any sovereign territory.

Most Respectfully,
R​

In 1920, the region you are referring to was established by The High Contracting Parties agree to entrust, by application of the provisions of Article 22, the administration of Palestine, within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers, to a Mandatory to be selected by the said Powers.​

Indeed.

What is the current situation, Tinmore and what do you think will transpire?

It's looking pretty good. The Palestinians have a multi faceted world wide plan to promote Palestine and Palestinian rights.

BDS is only one of them.

Tinmore, is this the information you are privy to? What a useless, destructive move this is for the Palestinian people.


According to an article published by the Israeli website Walla Jan. 15, Levy had announced his plan to build a shopping mall — which is currently under construction — to promote Israeli-Palestinian coexistence in Jerusalem by attracting Palestinian businessmen to buy or lease shops in the mall, Palestinian customers and Israelis living in nearby settlements. Levy’s plan sparked an angry reaction from many Palestinians.

The mall is being built in the Qalandiya industrial area, Atarot, which lies north of Jerusalem, just meters from Faisal al-Husseini International Stadium, the home of the Palestinian national football team. This area is classified as Area C and the industrial zone is considered a settlement area. Palestinians living in Jerusalem as well as residents of Ramallah and the surrounding villages are allowed access to this area, as the mall is located at its entrance.

On July 2, the Palestinian Consumer Protection Society threatened to reveal the names of the Palestinian companies that sought partnership with Levy, put them on the Palestinian blacklist, boycott them and urge the Palestinian Chamber of Commerce to freeze their memberships.

The general coordinator of the BDS movement, Mahmoud Nawajaa, told Al-Monitor that the movement is ready to launch an open campaign against the Palestinian parties that plan to team up with Levy.



Read more: BDS movement targets Palestinian investors in West Bank mall

Why should the Israelis get to build assets in Palestine while the Palestinians get theirs bulldozed.

That is not answering my question about whether this was one of the plans you are privy to. I wonder if Tinmore has reserved an apartment for himself in this new Palestinian development in the West Bank. If so, I hope he send the forum pictures of his new apartment and the surroundings.

A New Community Rises In The West Bank ... And It's Not Israeli

 

[P F Tinmore]

In 1920, the region you are referring to was established by The High Contracting Parties agree to entrust, by application of the provisions of Article 22, the administration of Palestine, within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers, to a Mandatory to be selected by the said Powers.​

Indeed.

What is the current situation, Tinmore and what do you think will transpire?

It's looking pretty good. The Palestinians have a multi faceted world wide plan to promote Palestine and Palestinian rights.

BDS is only one of them.

Tinmore, is this the information you are privy to? What a useless, destructive move this is for the Palestinian people.


According to an article published by the Israeli website Walla Jan. 15, Levy had announced his plan to build a shopping mall — which is currently under construction — to promote Israeli-Palestinian coexistence in Jerusalem by attracting Palestinian businessmen to buy or lease shops in the mall, Palestinian customers and Israelis living in nearby settlements. Levy’s plan sparked an angry reaction from many Palestinians.

The mall is being built in the Qalandiya industrial area, Atarot, which lies north of Jerusalem, just meters from Faisal al-Husseini International Stadium, the home of the Palestinian national football team. This area is classified as Area C and the industrial zone is considered a settlement area. Palestinians living in Jerusalem as well as residents of Ramallah and the surrounding villages are allowed access to this area, as the mall is located at its entrance.

On July 2, the Palestinian Consumer Protection Society threatened to reveal the names of the Palestinian companies that sought partnership with Levy, put them on the Palestinian blacklist, boycott them and urge the Palestinian Chamber of Commerce to freeze their memberships.

The general coordinator of the BDS movement, Mahmoud Nawajaa, told Al-Monitor that the movement is ready to launch an open campaign against the Palestinian parties that plan to team up with Levy.



Read more: BDS movement targets Palestinian investors in West Bank mall

Why should the Israelis get to build assets in Palestine while the Palestinians get theirs bulldozed.

That is not answering my question about whether this was one of the plans you are privy to. I wonder if Tinmore has reserved an apartment for himself in this new Palestinian development in the West Bank. If so, I hope he send the forum pictures of his new apartment and the surroundings.

A New Community Rises In The West Bank ... And It's Not Israeli

Interesting. This project has been ongoing for years.

Question: Where are these people going to work?

 

[Hossfly]

What is the current situation, Tinmore and what do you think will transpire?

It's looking pretty good. The Palestinians have a multi faceted world wide plan to promote Palestine and Palestinian rights.

BDS is only one of them.

Tinmore, is this the information you are privy to? What a useless, destructive move this is for the Palestinian people.


According to an article published by the Israeli website Walla Jan. 15, Levy had announced his plan to build a shopping mall — which is currently under construction — to promote Israeli-Palestinian coexistence in Jerusalem by attracting Palestinian businessmen to buy or lease shops in the mall, Palestinian customers and Israelis living in nearby settlements. Levy’s plan sparked an angry reaction from many Palestinians.

The mall is being built in the Qalandiya industrial area, Atarot, which lies north of Jerusalem, just meters from Faisal al-Husseini International Stadium, the home of the Palestinian national football team. This area is classified as Area C and the industrial zone is considered a settlement area. Palestinians living in Jerusalem as well as residents of Ramallah and the surrounding villages are allowed access to this area, as the mall is located at its entrance.

On July 2, the Palestinian Consumer Protection Society threatened to reveal the names of the Palestinian companies that sought partnership with Levy, put them on the Palestinian blacklist, boycott them and urge the Palestinian Chamber of Commerce to freeze their memberships.

The general coordinator of the BDS movement, Mahmoud Nawajaa, told Al-Monitor that the movement is ready to launch an open campaign against the Palestinian parties that plan to team up with Levy.



Read more: BDS movement targets Palestinian investors in West Bank mall

Why should the Israelis get to build assets in Palestine while the Palestinians get theirs bulldozed.

That is not answering my question about whether this was one of the plans you are privy to. I wonder if Tinmore has reserved an apartment for himself in this new Palestinian development in the West Bank. If so, I hope he send the forum pictures of his new apartment and the surroundings.

A New Community Rises In The West Bank ... And It's Not Israeli

Interesting. This project has been ongoing for years.

Question: Where are these people going to work?

At one of Trump's shirt factories. Then they,ll pay taxes which will be used to build a wall.

 

[P F Tinmore]

It's looking pretty good. The Palestinians have a multi faceted world wide plan to promote Palestine and Palestinian rights.

BDS is only one of them.

Tinmore, is this the information you are privy to? What a useless, destructive move this is for the Palestinian people.


According to an article published by the Israeli website Walla Jan. 15, Levy had announced his plan to build a shopping mall — which is currently under construction — to promote Israeli-Palestinian coexistence in Jerusalem by attracting Palestinian businessmen to buy or lease shops in the mall, Palestinian customers and Israelis living in nearby settlements. Levy’s plan sparked an angry reaction from many Palestinians.

The mall is being built in the Qalandiya industrial area, Atarot, which lies north of Jerusalem, just meters from Faisal al-Husseini International Stadium, the home of the Palestinian national football team. This area is classified as Area C and the industrial zone is considered a settlement area. Palestinians living in Jerusalem as well as residents of Ramallah and the surrounding villages are allowed access to this area, as the mall is located at its entrance.

On July 2, the Palestinian Consumer Protection Society threatened to reveal the names of the Palestinian companies that sought partnership with Levy, put them on the Palestinian blacklist, boycott them and urge the Palestinian Chamber of Commerce to freeze their memberships.

The general coordinator of the BDS movement, Mahmoud Nawajaa, told Al-Monitor that the movement is ready to launch an open campaign against the Palestinian parties that plan to team up with Levy.



Read more: BDS movement targets Palestinian investors in West Bank mall

Why should the Israelis get to build assets in Palestine while the Palestinians get theirs bulldozed.

That is not answering my question about whether this was one of the plans you are privy to. I wonder if Tinmore has reserved an apartment for himself in this new Palestinian development in the West Bank. If so, I hope he send the forum pictures of his new apartment and the surroundings.

A New Community Rises In The West Bank ... And It's Not Israeli

Interesting. This project has been ongoing for years.

Question: Where are these people going to work?

At one of Trump's shirt factories. Then they,ll pay taxes which will be used to build a wall.

No, seriously.

A few years ago there was a big campaign to revitalize downtown. It was coined the "jobs and housing project." It sounded good. A place to live and work to bring more people into the city.

The devil was in the details. The jobs would be in the $15,000 to $30,000 bracket. The housing would be for people earning $100,000 and up.

The people who planned this project claimed to be intelligent.

That was the reason for my question.

 

[Hossfly]

Tinmore, is this the information you are privy to? What a useless, destructive move this is for the Palestinian people.


According to an article published by the Israeli website Walla Jan. 15, Levy had announced his plan to build a shopping mall — which is currently under construction — to promote Israeli-Palestinian coexistence in Jerusalem by attracting Palestinian businessmen to buy or lease shops in the mall, Palestinian customers and Israelis living in nearby settlements. Levy’s plan sparked an angry reaction from many Palestinians.

The mall is being built in the Qalandiya industrial area, Atarot, which lies north of Jerusalem, just meters from Faisal al-Husseini International Stadium, the home of the Palestinian national football team. This area is classified as Area C and the industrial zone is considered a settlement area. Palestinians living in Jerusalem as well as residents of Ramallah and the surrounding villages are allowed access to this area, as the mall is located at its entrance.

On July 2, the Palestinian Consumer Protection Society threatened to reveal the names of the Palestinian companies that sought partnership with Levy, put them on the Palestinian blacklist, boycott them and urge the Palestinian Chamber of Commerce to freeze their memberships.

The general coordinator of the BDS movement, Mahmoud Nawajaa, told Al-Monitor that the movement is ready to launch an open campaign against the Palestinian parties that plan to team up with Levy.



Read more: BDS movement targets Palestinian investors in West Bank mall

Why should the Israelis get to build assets in Palestine while the Palestinians get theirs bulldozed.

That is not answering my question about whether this was one of the plans you are privy to. I wonder if Tinmore has reserved an apartment for himself in this new Palestinian development in the West Bank. If so, I hope he send the forum pictures of his new apartment and the surroundings.

A New Community Rises In The West Bank ... And It's Not Israeli

Interesting. This project has been ongoing for years.

Question: Where are these people going to work?

At one of Trump's shirt factories. Then they,ll pay taxes which will be used to build a wall.

No, seriously.

A few years ago there was a big campaign to revitalize downtown. It was coined the "jobs and housing project." It sounded good. A place to live and work to bring more people into the city.

The devil was in the details. The jobs would be in the $15,000 to $30,000 bracket. The housing would be for people earning $100,000 and up.

The people who planned this project claimed to be intelligent.

That was the reason for my question.

"The people who planned this project claimed to be intelligent."

The people who planned this project were politicians who filled their pockets before a shovel was readied.

 

[Hossfly]

Tinmore, is this the information you are privy to? What a useless, destructive move this is for the Palestinian people.


According to an article published by the Israeli website Walla Jan. 15, Levy had announced his plan to build a shopping mall — which is currently under construction — to promote Israeli-Palestinian coexistence in Jerusalem by attracting Palestinian businessmen to buy or lease shops in the mall, Palestinian customers and Israelis living in nearby settlements. Levy’s plan sparked an angry reaction from many Palestinians.

The mall is being built in the Qalandiya industrial area, Atarot, which lies north of Jerusalem, just meters from Faisal al-Husseini International Stadium, the home of the Palestinian national football team. This area is classified as Area C and the industrial zone is considered a settlement area. Palestinians living in Jerusalem as well as residents of Ramallah and the surrounding villages are allowed access to this area, as the mall is located at its entrance.

On July 2, the Palestinian Consumer Protection Society threatened to reveal the names of the Palestinian companies that sought partnership with Levy, put them on the Palestinian blacklist, boycott them and urge the Palestinian Chamber of Commerce to freeze their memberships.

The general coordinator of the BDS movement, Mahmoud Nawajaa, told Al-Monitor that the movement is ready to launch an open campaign against the Palestinian parties that plan to team up with Levy.



Read more: BDS movement targets Palestinian investors in West Bank mall

Why should the Israelis get to build assets in Palestine while the Palestinians get theirs bulldozed.

That is not answering my question about whether this was one of the plans you are privy to. I wonder if Tinmore has reserved an apartment for himself in this new Palestinian development in the West Bank. If so, I hope he send the forum pictures of his new apartment and the surroundings.

A New Community Rises In The West Bank ... And It's Not Israeli

Interesting. This project has been ongoing for years.

Question: Where are these people going to work?

At one of Trump's shirt factories. Then they,ll pay taxes which will be used to build a wall.

No, seriously.

A few years ago there was a big campaign to revitalize downtown. It was coined the "jobs and housing project." It sounded good. A place to live and work to bring more people into the city.

The devil was in the details. The jobs would be in the $15,000 to $30,000 bracket. The housing would be for people earning $100,000 and up.

The people who planned this project claimed to be intelligent.

That was the reason for my question.

Instead of you wasting your time pulling up videos year after year that probably very few here view, why don't you attempt to get exposure for the high tech industry in the West Bank. Many talented Palestinians who could make a nice salary to enable them to afford the rents in the new city if only you convince the outside world to use their talents.


Sam Husseini runs LionHeart, a company that operates a training program with an Israeli partner to teach Palestinian entrepreneurs marketing skills. Two chief executives — Husni Abu Samrah ofMobiStine, a start-up that designs health care applications in Arabic, and Saeed Zeidan of Ultimit, which develops software and does consulting work — each said they learned a lot from the training program, especially about what the industry still needs to thrive.

“The main thing is exposure,” Mr. Zeidan said. “We do not have exposure for the international market.”

Even so, Yahya al-Salqan, chief executive of Jaffa.Net, a software developer, said the regional market offered great promise. He observed that the Palestinian tech sector was uniquely placed in a “sandwich” between Israel’s so-called Silicon Wadi, less than an hour’s drive away on the Mediterranean coast, and what he called a huge emerging demand for technology services in Arab countries.

Mr. Salqan worked in Silicon Valley in California early in his career, and then returned home about 15 years ago to found Jaffa.Net, with one branch in Ramallah and another in Nablus in the northern West Bank. Jaffa.Net is working on mobile banking applications, and it will soon open an office in the Persian Gulf emirate of Qatar.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Why should the Israelis get to build assets in Palestine while the Palestinians get theirs bulldozed.

That is not answering my question about whether this was one of the plans you are privy to. I wonder if Tinmore has reserved an apartment for himself in this new Palestinian development in the West Bank. If so, I hope he send the forum pictures of his new apartment and the surroundings.

A New Community Rises In The West Bank ... And It's Not Israeli

Interesting. This project has been ongoing for years.

Question: Where are these people going to work?

At one of Trump's shirt factories. Then they,ll pay taxes which will be used to build a wall.

No, seriously.

A few years ago there was a big campaign to revitalize downtown. It was coined the "jobs and housing project." It sounded good. A place to live and work to bring more people into the city.

The devil was in the details. The jobs would be in the $15,000 to $30,000 bracket. The housing would be for people earning $100,000 and up.

The people who planned this project claimed to be intelligent.

That was the reason for my question.

Instead of you wasting your time pulling up videos year after year that probably very few here view, why don't you attempt to get exposure for the high tech industry in the West Bank. Many talented Palestinians who could make a nice salary to enable them to afford the rents in the new city if only you convince the outside world to use their talents.


Sam Husseini runs LionHeart, a company that operates a training program with an Israeli partner to teach Palestinian entrepreneurs marketing skills. Two chief executives — Husni Abu Samrah ofMobiStine, a start-up that designs health care applications in Arabic, and Saeed Zeidan of Ultimit, which develops software and does consulting work — each said they learned a lot from the training program, especially about what the industry still needs to thrive.

“The main thing is exposure,” Mr. Zeidan said. “We do not have exposure for the international market.”

Even so, Yahya al-Salqan, chief executive of Jaffa.Net, a software developer, said the regional market offered great promise. He observed that the Palestinian tech sector was uniquely placed in a “sandwich” between Israel’s so-called Silicon Wadi, less than an hour’s drive away on the Mediterranean coast, and what he called a huge emerging demand for technology services in Arab countries.

Mr. Salqan worked in Silicon Valley in California early in his career, and then returned home about 15 years ago to found Jaffa.Net, with one branch in Ramallah and another in Nablus in the northern West Bank. Jaffa.Net is working on mobile banking applications, and it will soon open an office in the Persian Gulf emirate of Qatar.

Already being done.

the West Bank now boasts about 300 firms operating in the information-technology (IT) industry.

Most of the Palestinian tech firms cluster around the city of Ramallah. This may be just a half-hour or so drive away from Jerusalem, but the gulf is immeasurably wider. With no airport of their own and travel heavily restricted, Palestinians can find it difficult to even attend business meetings. And borders and checkpoints make shipping physical goods very difficult. “That’s why we like to work with software,” says Mashour Abudaka, a former Palestinian IT minister.

It is not just software’s unique ability to flow through wires, untroubled by borders, that is helping the cluster flourish. IT workers in the West Bank earn only half as much as their Israeli counterparts. The Israeli subsidiary of Cisco, a Silicon Valley networking giant, in 2008 was one of the first firms to outsource work to less expensive Palestinian firms, such as Asal Technologies and Exalt Technologies, which now have 120 and 80 employees respectively.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/schumpeter/2014/02/it-west-bank​

Of course it isn't easy. Israel always has its big fat nose in Palestine's business. I was watching a video where two women were explaining the problems they had getting into the West Bank. There were some software engineers from Europe who were trying to get into the West Bank because they were scheduled to teach classes at Birzeit University. Israel would not allow them in.

Israel always whines about BDS attacking the academic freedom of Israel while Israel is always ******* with the Palestinian's academic freedom.

 

[Phoenall]

]P F Tinmore, et al,

You are just so full of crap.

(COMMENT)

The Arab Palestinians get this wrong intentionally so that over time, people forget that "Palestine" (with hard boundaries) was defined by the Allied Powers; formally accepted in 1924.

Prior to the Treaty of Sevres, the term Palestine was nothing more than a Regional Name that extended across parts of several political sub-divisions of the Ottoman Empire. Those sub-divisions included the Independent Sanjuk of Jerusalem, the Sanjuk of Baaqa, Sanjuk of Acre, and the Sanjuk of Beriut (which made-up half of the Vilayet of Beriut, --- plus portions of the souther Vilayet of Syria.

In 1920, the region you are referring to was established by The High Contracting Parties agree to entrust, by application of the provisions of Article 22, the administration of Palestine, within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers, to a Mandatory to be selected by the said Powers.

In 1922, the Order in Council (League of Nations) designated that "the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine." ("Palestine" was a short title for the Territory under the Mandate.)

On May 15, 1923, Britain formally recognized the Emirate of Transjordan as a state under the leadership of Emir Abdullah. The Anglo-Trans-Jordan Treaty stipulated that Transjordan would be prepared for independence under the general supervision of the British high commissioner in Jerusalem, and recognized Emir Abdullah as head of state. In May 1925, the Aqaba and Ma’an districts of the Hijaz became part of Transjordan.

By 1988 the UN system designated the Palestine Liberation Organization as "Palestine" in A/RES/43/177 wherein it said: "the designation "Palestine" should be used in place of the designation "Palestine Liberation Organization" in the United Nations system.

However, in 2012 (A/RES/67/19), when the UN "Reaffirmed the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination and to independence in their State of Palestine on the Palestinian territory occupied since 1967." Notice, that the State of Palestine is equated to the territory occupied since 1967.

As you can see, the extent to which the territory was modified was considerable between the time of the Armistice of Mudros and when the transfer of territory from the sovereign Kingdom of the Hijaz was accomplished.

REBUTTAL: I could not agree more, the way you use the term "Palestine" is (sometime intentionally) misleading. I try to keep the terms in context to their meaning or designation.

I realize that what we can write here in this discussion could never compare to the 4 volumes, 2,500 pages, including 1 map box that contain all the details. But in no case, was there a Political Subdivision at anytime in the 20th Century known as "Palestine." Nor did the "Palestinian People have either "Title or Rights" to any sovereign territory.

Most Respectfully,
R​

In 1920, the region you are referring to was established by The High Contracting Parties agree to entrust, by application of the provisions of Article 22, the administration of Palestine, within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers, to a Mandatory to be selected by the said Powers.​

Indeed.

What is the current situation, Tinmore and what do you think will transpire?

It's looking pretty good. The Palestinians have a multi faceted world wide plan to promote Palestine and Palestinian rights.

BDS is only one of them.

Tinmore, is this the information you are privy to? What a useless, destructive move this is for the Palestinian people.


According to an article published by the Israeli website Walla Jan. 15, Levy had announced his plan to build a shopping mall — which is currently under construction — to promote Israeli-Palestinian coexistence in Jerusalem by attracting Palestinian businessmen to buy or lease shops in the mall, Palestinian customers and Israelis living in nearby settlements. Levy’s plan sparked an angry reaction from many Palestinians.

The mall is being built in the Qalandiya industrial area, Atarot, which lies north of Jerusalem, just meters from Faisal al-Husseini International Stadium, the home of the Palestinian national football team. This area is classified as Area C and the industrial zone is considered a settlement area. Palestinians living in Jerusalem as well as residents of Ramallah and the surrounding villages are allowed access to this area, as the mall is located at its entrance.

On July 2, the Palestinian Consumer Protection Society threatened to reveal the names of the Palestinian companies that sought partnership with Levy, put them on the Palestinian blacklist, boycott them and urge the Palestinian Chamber of Commerce to freeze their memberships.

The general coordinator of the BDS movement, Mahmoud Nawajaa, told Al-Monitor that the movement is ready to launch an open campaign against the Palestinian parties that plan to team up with Levy.



Read more: BDS movement targets Palestinian investors in West Bank mall

Why should the Israelis get to build assets in Palestine while the Palestinians get theirs bulldozed.

Because the palestinians have no legal right to the land under international laws. When you accept this as reality then you will accept that the arab muslims have no rights in the 22% of palestine that is the Jewish National home, and should be in the 78% of palestine known as Jordan. But because of their own stupidity they are not welcome there anymore and will become wandering thieves and killers until they die out of natural causes

 

[Phoenall]

That is not answering my question about whether this was one of the plans you are privy to. I wonder if Tinmore has reserved an apartment for himself in this new Palestinian development in the West Bank. If so, I hope he send the forum pictures of his new apartment and the surroundings.

A New Community Rises In The West Bank ... And It's Not Israeli

Interesting. This project has been ongoing for years.

Question: Where are these people going to work?

At one of Trump's shirt factories. Then they,ll pay taxes which will be used to build a wall.

No, seriously.

A few years ago there was a big campaign to revitalize downtown. It was coined the "jobs and housing project." It sounded good. A place to live and work to bring more people into the city.

The devil was in the details. The jobs would be in the $15,000 to $30,000 bracket. The housing would be for people earning $100,000 and up.

The people who planned this project claimed to be intelligent.

That was the reason for my question.

Instead of you wasting your time pulling up videos year after year that probably very few here view, why don't you attempt to get exposure for the high tech industry in the West Bank. Many talented Palestinians who could make a nice salary to enable them to afford the rents in the new city if only you convince the outside world to use their talents.


Sam Husseini runs LionHeart, a company that operates a training program with an Israeli partner to teach Palestinian entrepreneurs marketing skills. Two chief executives — Husni Abu Samrah ofMobiStine, a start-up that designs health care applications in Arabic, and Saeed Zeidan of Ultimit, which develops software and does consulting work — each said they learned a lot from the training program, especially about what the industry still needs to thrive.

“The main thing is exposure,” Mr. Zeidan said. “We do not have exposure for the international market.”

Even so, Yahya al-Salqan, chief executive of Jaffa.Net, a software developer, said the regional market offered great promise. He observed that the Palestinian tech sector was uniquely placed in a “sandwich” between Israel’s so-called Silicon Wadi, less than an hour’s drive away on the Mediterranean coast, and what he called a huge emerging demand for technology services in Arab countries.

Mr. Salqan worked in Silicon Valley in California early in his career, and then returned home about 15 years ago to found Jaffa.Net, with one branch in Ramallah and another in Nablus in the northern West Bank. Jaffa.Net is working on mobile banking applications, and it will soon open an office in the Persian Gulf emirate of Qatar.

Already being done.

the West Bank now boasts about 300 firms operating in the information-technology (IT) industry.

Most of the Palestinian tech firms cluster around the city of Ramallah. This may be just a half-hour or so drive away from Jerusalem, but the gulf is immeasurably wider. With no airport of their own and travel heavily restricted, Palestinians can find it difficult to even attend business meetings. And borders and checkpoints make shipping physical goods very difficult. “That’s why we like to work with software,” says Mashour Abudaka, a former Palestinian IT minister.

It is not just software’s unique ability to flow through wires, untroubled by borders, that is helping the cluster flourish. IT workers in the West Bank earn only half as much as their Israeli counterparts. The Israeli subsidiary of Cisco, a Silicon Valley networking giant, in 2008 was one of the first firms to outsource work to less expensive Palestinian firms, such as Asal Technologies and Exalt Technologies, which now have 120 and 80 employees respectively.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/schumpeter/2014/02/it-west-bank​

Of course it isn't easy. Israel always has its big fat nose in Palestine's business. I was watching a video where two women were explaining the problems they had getting into the West Bank. There were some software engineers from Europe who were trying to get into the West Bank because they were scheduled to teach classes at Birzeit University. Israel would not allow them in.

Israel always whines about BDS attacking the academic freedom of Israel while Israel is always ******* with the Palestinian's academic freedom.

The palestinians only have themselves to blame for this, if they stopped the violence and terrorist attacks they would find their life a lot easier. Violence only begets violence and the palestinians will lose every time. Ever thought it could be morons like you constantly inciting the palestinians to attack the Jewsd that are the root cause of the problems ?

 

[Phoenall]

For UNWRA like the rest of the palestinian scroungers, and the US will be expected to pay their wages