Boycott goes prime-time in Israel

[Kondor3]

HOW Stupid Jewess Sally......what's the weather like today in down town Tel Aviv,the equiptment you talk of was wealthy decent,innocent,Jewish folks money.

Grow Up and read Jewish History.....I know Israel well....and I sometimes meet people like you......and like most secular thinking Jews.....think you are MADsteve

Ever realize how these mentally ill Jew haters keep telling everybody they "know other Jews" that agree with them? Yup, those voices in their head again.

Ya I notice liq using that tactic quite often

What I don't get is why someone would use such an embarrassingly obvious tactic time and again in connection with the same audience (or an audience with a strong sense of continuity despite arrivals and departures) and expect to get away with it after its first or second appearance...

 

[Phoenall]

If Oxfam supports BDS, maybe they'll be on the next blockade runner. Just think of the publicity for their cause. And the broken heads.

Members of Oxfam are suspected to have laced baby food with deadly poison in support of the Palestinians. They are also suspected of putting glass shards in bags of salad in the hope of causing someone an injury. These are the people mad sherrie is supporting

I doubt this accusation is true.......thinking logically ....why would they,to whom are they doing this to and what benefit would this be to the Palestinians......Yet more Terrorist Zionist Shit which you ignorant,gullable Americans swallow.

What excuse do they need to do it apart from "we can". They are members of many other groups like PETA, ALF and such like. They started out as a charity to raise money for the starving in Africa due to islamist attacks on Ethiopia, were the indigenous were starving to death because the interlopers had destroyed the crops in the fields. But as usually happens the left wing took control of the leadership and used the charity as a front for their criminal and terrorist activities. Just as ALF took control of the RSPCA and use it as a front for their activities.

And once again I am not American but British and have first hand knowledge on how these British groups operate.

 

[Phoenall]

Steve, it's the same mindset which has seen 'eco-activists' put spikes into trees in the American Northwest logging country, hoping to destroy chain-saws - and not caring whatsoever that loggers have gotten maimed or killed by flying debris.

While I don't see a citation for Phoneall's allegations, it's not impossible. Just because an organization is supposedly humanitarian, doesn't vaccinate every last one of its members against bigotry or baggage.

I'd call Phonall's so-far-unsubstantiated allegations "anti-Oxfam" rather than anything else. Again, such views are not unknown: we've seen a couple of posters inveighing against the SPLC, for example.

As to what benefit those actions would be to 'Palestinians' or anyone else - you're missing the point. Some people are so embedded in their ideology that they aren't 'activists' because they care about the cause they supposedly advocate for: they are USING their 'activist' persona to pursue vendettas against those whom their ideology dictates they must target. We've seen some of this in the US from both the 'TEA party' AND the 'Occupy' crowd - both ideologically driven, both extremists.

You yourself, Steve, are an example of an 'ideologue' here, attributing to Zionism attitudes which are NO part of most Zionists' views.

It is NOT Israel which has disenfranchised and ejected citizens of 'non establishment' religion: the entire rest of the ME had done so some 60-odd years ago after the nations of the Arab League drew up plans to revoke the citizenship of their Jewish populations en masse, steal everything they had - and eject them.

Until those who would claim Israel has been 'ethnically cleansing' the Palestinians are willing to address that ethnic cleansing conspiracy - the Palestinian cause is being sullied by their blatant hypocrisy.

That cause is further degraded by the acceptance of blatant Holocaust denial among 'activists' and even governments - your government has made that behavior criminal, Steve. So most of the 'Palestinian activists' are consorting with criminals........

It was common during the 1980's and 1990's to see reports of left wing student groups admitting to tampering with food to raise awareness of what they deemed social issues. |From using animals to test new products to the plight of the Palestinians in gaza.
The same people suspected of the attacks were also linked to the likes of Oxfam which was used as a front.

Here are some cases from around the world, one deals with actual Palestinians injecting oranges with mercury.

10 Notorious Cases of Product Tampering - Listverse

BBC News | UK | Baby food in tampering scare

Best I can find at the moment but will look for the news reports that show left wing groups were behind some of the eco terrorism.

 

[Phoenall]

steve, it's the same mindset which has seen 'eco-activists' put spikes into trees in the american northwest logging country, hoping to destroy chain-saws - and not caring whatsoever that loggers have gotten maimed or killed by flying debris.

While i don't see a citation for phoneall's allegations, it's not impossible. Just because an organization is supposedly humanitarian, doesn't vaccinate every last one of its members against bigotry or baggage.

I'd call phonall's so-far-unsubstantiated allegations "anti-oxfam" rather than anything else. Again, such views are not unknown: We've seen a couple of posters inveighing against the splc, for example.

As to what benefit those actions would be to 'palestinians' or anyone else - you're missing the point. Some people are so embedded in their ideology that they aren't 'activists' because they care about the cause they supposedly advocate for: They are using their 'activist' persona to pursue vendettas against those whom their ideology dictates they must target. We've seen some of this in the us from both the 'tea party' and the 'occupy' crowd - both ideologically driven, both extremists.

You yourself, steve, are an example of an 'ideologue' here, attributing to zionism attitudes which are no part of most zionists' views.

It is not israel which has disenfranchised and ejected citizens of 'non establishment' religion: The entire rest of the me had done so some 60-odd years ago after the nations of the arab league drew up plans to revoke the citizenship of their jewish populations en masse, steal everything they had - and eject them.

Until those who would claim israel has been 'ethnically cleansing' the palestinians are willing to address that ethnic cleansing conspiracy - the palestinian cause is being sullied by their blatant hypocrisy.

That cause is further degraded by the acceptance of blatant holocaust denial among 'activists' and even governments - your government has made that behavior criminal, steve. So most of the 'palestinian activists' are consorting with criminals........

were you in the arab countries between 1950 and 1973? I was ... The arab jews would still be in the arab world if not for israel.

Arabs were not denying the holocaust.. From 1945 they were suggesting that the survivors be given the best land in germany.

liar

 

[Phoenall]

Were you in the Arab countries between 1950 and 1973? I was ... The Arab Jews would still be in the Arab world if not for Israel.

Arabs were not denying the Holocaust.. From 1945 they were suggesting that the survivors be given the best land in Germany.

Arabs had sided with the Nazis. Amin Al Husseini: Nazi Father of Jihad, Al Qaeda, Arafat, Saddam Hussein and the Muslim Brotherhood - Tell The Children The Truth - Homepage

Then the intolerant savages decided to take it out on the native Jews (who had nothing to do with Israel) just because the animals couldn't handle a non Muslim country, created by and for Jews, on their ancestral homeland.

Well the Zionists COLLABORATED with the NAZIS or has your selective memory deserted you once again.steve

And what was the reason for the Zionists to collaborate with the NAZIS, was it by any chance to save as many Jews from death as possible and to migrate them out of harms way. The other nations in Europe did not want to take them in did they, but Jews in Palestine were prepared to support them as much as they could. Nothing to do with Israel at all just humanitarian efforts to secure the lives of as many Jews as they could. But then you would not expect a NAZI JEW HATER to understand such concepts.

As a British subject I am ashamed at my government's actions towards the Jews before, during and after WW2, just as I am ashamed of my governments actions towards the Jews of today

 

[Phoenall]

Were you in the Arab countries between 1950 and 1973? I was ... The Arab Jews would still be in the Arab world if not for Israel.

Arabs were not denying the Holocaust.. From 1945 they were suggesting that the survivors be given the best land in Germany.

Whose land would they have been given in Germany? Displaced persons of course. That's how Arabs got their lands. By "displacing" citizens out of their land and taking over. No, it was better for the Jews to go back to their lands that was given them millenniums ago and got displaced from. And don't come back with that tired old saw 'it wasn't the Jews land' after they were dispersed.

And prior to the Jews arrival in the Holy Land it was "OWNED" by different peoples..The Cannanites,The Moabites,The Assyians ....etc., Hoss your grasp of history is somewhat limited.

As a footnote,Zionist inspired migration of Jewish people started from the early 1920's some 25 years earlier than you inaccurately stated.

Not all Jews fled from Palestine during the Roman period,admittedly there were not many and lived harmonisly sic with the Palestinians.

The real schism started in the late 1920's when the Palestinians realized the hordes of Jewish people would start to out number them.

At this time and until statehood the Zionists were/are a Terrorist Organisation..steve

It is an INJUSTICE and INSULT to say that the Palestinians or Jews are in any way like those Cnuts the Nazis and their Leader Hitler.......I suggest most of you should put your brains into gear before opening your mouths.

Both who are Cousins by the way are extremely good people who get on well.......the problem is THE EXTREMISTS of HATE on both sides,of which Israel has more.I'm the liq,I stand before you with TRUTH and RIGHTS.Viva Palestine,Viva Israel.........FCUK knows what the rest of you sometimes are

Just as much of the land was actually bought by Jews who paid over the odds for it prior to the refugees arriving from Europe. But it was never owned by the "Palestinians" who migrated from place to place seeking work.

Try again as International Zionism was around in the late 19c and espoused the formation of a Jewish state in the M.E back then.

considering the numbers it seems that the camps were about equal in number, and still are to this day. After 630 C.E the Jews knew no peace in the M.E as the muslims were out to ethnically cleanse them from the area back then. All down to the fact that a Jewish tribe in medina refused to worship the mental defective Mohamed, so he wiped them out. It became entrenched in the muslim faith to kill the Jews.

I am a Zionist in the true sense of the word, not in your warped anti semitic Jew hating version much espoused by muslims. All Zionists believe is that the Jews have the right to a homeland in their historic territory and the right to defend it from attack.

The muslims are very much like the NAZIS of 1930'd Germany, so much so that they look up to Hitler as one of their hero's. They are the biggest buyers of his book mien kampf and emulate his third reich as much as possible. There are still brigades of muslims that sport the deaths head and swastika emblems of the third reich.

Maybe you can show from a reliable source this getting along, and not isolated incidents. When a whole town comes out and beats two Jews to death and then proceeds to gorge themselves on their flesh it shown that the extremists are more widespread than you want the west to know.

 

[Phoenall]

Well the Zionists COLLABORATED with the NAZIS or has your selective memory deserted you once again.steve

Negotiating to escape with your life while giving up all your assets and German Citizenship is not "collaborating", idiot.

You know not the minute nor the HOUR

Seems that you do not even know the millenia

 

[Sunni Man]

Israel will fall within the next couple of decades. ...


1) Our beloved Pres. Obama has started the process of the U.S. pulling it's support away from fascist Israel.

2) The future Pres. Hillary Clinton will continue the process over her 8 years in office.

3) AIPAC is starting to lose it's clout with the American government.

4) High birth rates of Palestinians inside Israel will change the countries demographics and Jews will become a minority.

5) BDS will continue to grow world wide and cripple Israel's economy.

6) Israel won't be able to sustain having such a large part of it's GDP going to the military.

7) The surrounding arab countries will continue to strengthen as Israel grows weaker.

8) The old radical zionists will die off and the younger rational Israeli jews will beg for a peace deal with the Palestinians.

9) The apartheid Israeli state will be dismantled and a new Greater Palestine will take it's place.

10) Former Israeli government officials will be arrested and put on public trial for their crimes against humanity.

11) The middle east will finally have peace and security.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Israel will fall within the next couple of decades. ...


1) Our beloved Pres. Obama has started the process of the U.S. pulling it's support away from fascist Israel.

2) The future Pres. Hillary Clinton will continue the process over her 8 years in office.

3) AIPAC is starting to lose it's clout with the American government.

4) High birth rates of Palestinians inside Israel will change the countries demographics and Jews will become a minority.

5) BDS will continue to grow world wide and cripple Israel's economy.

6) Israel won't be able to sustain having such a large part of it's GDP going to the military.

7) The surrounding arab countries will continue to strengthen as Israel grows weaker.

8) The old radical zionists will die off and the younger rational Israeli jews will beg for a peace deal with the Palestinians.

9) The apartheid Israeli state will be dismantled and a new Greater Palestine will take it's place.

10) Former Israeli government officials will be arrested and put on public trial for their crimes against humanity.

11) The middle east will finally have peace and security.

​

 

[Kondor3]

Israel will fall within the next couple of decades. ...


1) Our beloved Pres. Obama has started the process of the U.S. pulling it's support away from fascist Israel.

2) The future Pres. Hillary Clinton will continue the process over her 8 years in office.

3) AIPAC is starting to lose it's clout with the American government.

4) High birth rates of Palestinians inside Israel will change the countries demographics and Jews will become a minority.

5) BDS will continue to grow world wide and cripple Israel's economy.

6) Israel won't be able to sustain having such a large part of it's GDP going to the military.

7) The surrounding arab countries will continue to strengthen as Israel grows weaker.

8) The old radical zionists will die off and the younger rational Israeli jews will beg for a peace deal with the Palestinians.

9) The apartheid Israeli state will be dismantled and a new Greater Palestine will take it's place.

10) Former Israeli government officials will be arrested and put on public trial for their crimes against humanity.

11) The middle east will finally have peace and security.

1. Obama will only be able to get so far with his anti-Israel agenda.

2. After 8 years of Obama, and the abortion of ObamaCare, and more socialist -like programming, a Republican will win the White House in 2016.

3. The next POTUS will reverse any detrimental effects of Obama policies.

4. Neighboring Arab countries will continue their civil wars and infighting and stay weak for another couple of generations; recovering from all the damage they've inflicted upon themselves.

5. Israel will evict and deport the remaining Palestinians to Jordan and Lebanon - quickly and ruthlessly smashing any resistance along the way - thereby eliminating any future demographics threat before it materializes.

6. Israel will move Jews into the vacuum in Gaza and the West Bank.

7. The UN and the world will piss and moan for a couple of years and then accept the fait accompli - nobody cares enough any longer about the Mad-Dog Palestinians to do any more than that.

8. Israel will be rid of its hostile resident enemy population and possess defensible and sustainable borders and a sustainable land-mass.

9. The Arabs will accept that state of affairs after a generation or two, and be glad to be rid of the Palestinian albatross around their necks.

10. We will finally have peace and security in the Middle East.

11. The erzatz fictional so-called Palestinians will assimilate and dissolve into the surrounding Arab populations, never to be heard from again, after a generation or two.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Steve, it's the same mindset which has seen 'eco-activists' put spikes into trees in the American Northwest logging country, hoping to destroy chain-saws - and not caring whatsoever that loggers have gotten maimed or killed by flying debris.

While I don't see a citation for Phoneall's allegations, it's not impossible. Just because an organization is supposedly humanitarian, doesn't vaccinate every last one of its members against bigotry or baggage.

I'd call Phonall's so-far-unsubstantiated allegations "anti-Oxfam" rather than anything else. Again, such views are not unknown: we've seen a couple of posters inveighing against the SPLC, for example.

As to what benefit those actions would be to 'Palestinians' or anyone else - you're missing the point. Some people are so embedded in their ideology that they aren't 'activists' because they care about the cause they supposedly advocate for: they are USING their 'activist' persona to pursue vendettas against those whom their ideology dictates they must target. We've seen some of this in the US from both the 'TEA party' AND the 'Occupy' crowd - both ideologically driven, both extremists.

You yourself, Steve, are an example of an 'ideologue' here, attributing to Zionism attitudes which are NO part of most Zionists' views.

It is NOT Israel which has disenfranchised and ejected citizens of 'non establishment' religion: the entire rest of the ME had done so some 60-odd years ago after the nations of the Arab League drew up plans to revoke the citizenship of their Jewish populations en masse, steal everything they had - and eject them.

Until those who would claim Israel has been 'ethnically cleansing' the Palestinians are willing to address that ethnic cleansing conspiracy - the Palestinian cause is being sullied by their blatant hypocrisy.

That cause is further degraded by the acceptance of blatant Holocaust denial among 'activists' and even governments - your government has made that behavior criminal, Steve. So most of the 'Palestinian activists' are consorting with criminals........

Steve, it's the same mindset which has seen 'eco-activists' put spikes into trees in the American Northwest logging country, hoping to destroy chain-saws - and not caring whatsoever that loggers have gotten maimed or killed by flying debris.

Actually that is a lie.

Hill and Knowlton, the PR firm that was hired to lie us into the first Gulf War, was hired to spread bullshit about the activists who were trying to save the forests.

 

[Phoenall]

Steve, it's the same mindset which has seen 'eco-activists' put spikes into trees in the American Northwest logging country, hoping to destroy chain-saws - and not caring whatsoever that loggers have gotten maimed or killed by flying debris.

While I don't see a citation for Phoneall's allegations, it's not impossible. Just because an organization is supposedly humanitarian, doesn't vaccinate every last one of its members against bigotry or baggage.

I'd call Phonall's so-far-unsubstantiated allegations "anti-Oxfam" rather than anything else. Again, such views are not unknown: we've seen a couple of posters inveighing against the SPLC, for example.

As to what benefit those actions would be to 'Palestinians' or anyone else - you're missing the point. Some people are so embedded in their ideology that they aren't 'activists' because they care about the cause they supposedly advocate for: they are USING their 'activist' persona to pursue vendettas against those whom their ideology dictates they must target. We've seen some of this in the US from both the 'TEA party' AND the 'Occupy' crowd - both ideologically driven, both extremists.

You yourself, Steve, are an example of an 'ideologue' here, attributing to Zionism attitudes which are NO part of most Zionists' views.

It is NOT Israel which has disenfranchised and ejected citizens of 'non establishment' religion: the entire rest of the ME had done so some 60-odd years ago after the nations of the Arab League drew up plans to revoke the citizenship of their Jewish populations en masse, steal everything they had - and eject them.

Until those who would claim Israel has been 'ethnically cleansing' the Palestinians are willing to address that ethnic cleansing conspiracy - the Palestinian cause is being sullied by their blatant hypocrisy.

That cause is further degraded by the acceptance of blatant Holocaust denial among 'activists' and even governments - your government has made that behavior criminal, Steve. So most of the 'Palestinian activists' are consorting with criminals........

Steve, it's the same mindset which has seen 'eco-activists' put spikes into trees in the American Northwest logging country, hoping to destroy chain-saws - and not caring whatsoever that loggers have gotten maimed or killed by flying debris.

Actually that is a lie.

Hill and Knowlton, the PR firm that was hired to lie us into the first Gulf War, was hired to spread bullshit about the activists who were trying to save the forests.

You living in a nation that can take a week to drive across has no idea what is happening under your nose. Me living in a nation that I can drive form one side to the other in 4 hours, or from top to bottom in 12 sees what is happening. The eco terrorists don't care about life, just their stupid flavour of the month bee in their bonnet. They had fox hunting banned and are now complaining about the cost of chickens and sheep because the foxes are decimating the farms. They tried to ban fishing until they saw how much money was involved and how it would affect the environment. They will willingly kill a child to try and save an animal that will devastate the indigenous wildlife. All first hand knowledge of the eco terrorists that trespass on private land, leave gates open so animals can escape and let their dogs of to worry sheep. Two days later you see the same people working in the local Oxfam charity shop. In the UK we refer to them as the great unwashed gang, who travel around in dangerous vehicles from concert to concert destroying the ecology of the areas they squat on. very much like the Palestinians of 100 years ago.

 

[theliq]

Whose land would they have been given in Germany? Displaced persons of course. That's how Arabs got their lands. By "displacing" citizens out of their land and taking over. No, it was better for the Jews to go back to their lands that was given them millenniums ago and got displaced from. And don't come back with that tired old saw 'it wasn't the Jews land' after they were dispersed.

And prior to the Jews arrival in the Holy Land it was "OWNED" by different peoples..The Cannanites,The Moabites,The Assyians ....etc., Hoss your grasp of history is somewhat limited.

As a footnote,Zionist inspired migration of Jewish people started from the early 1920's some 25 years earlier than you inaccurately stated.

Not all Jews fled from Palestine during the Roman period,admittedly there were not many and lived harmonisly sic with the Palestinians.

The real schism started in the late 1920's when the Palestinians realized the hordes of Jewish people would start to out number them.

At this time and until statehood the Zionists were/are a Terrorist Organisation..steve

It is an INJUSTICE and INSULT to say that the Palestinians or Jews are in any way like those Cnuts the Nazis and their Leader Hitler.......I suggest most of you should put your brains into gear before opening your mouths.

Both who are Cousins by the way are extremely good people who get on well.......the problem is THE EXTREMISTS of HATE on both sides,of which Israel has more.I'm the liq,I stand before you with TRUTH and RIGHTS.Viva Palestine,Viva Israel.........FCUK knows what the rest of you sometimes are

Just as much of the land was actually bought by Jews who paid over the odds for it prior to the refugees arriving from Europe. But it was never owned by the "Palestinians" who migrated from place to place seeking work.

Try again as International Zionism was around in the late 19c and espoused the formation of a Jewish state in the M.E back then.

considering the numbers it seems that the camps were about equal in number, and still are to this day. After 630 C.E the Jews knew no peace in the M.E as the muslims were out to ethnically cleanse them from the area back then. All down to the fact that a Jewish tribe in medina refused to worship the mental defective Mohamed, so he wiped them out. It became entrenched in the muslim faith to kill the Jews.

I am a Zionist in the true sense of the word, not in your warped anti semitic Jew hating version much espoused by muslims. All Zionists believe is that the Jews have the right to a homeland in their historic territory and the right to defend it from attack.

The muslims are very much like the NAZIS of 1930'd Germany, so much so that they look up to Hitler as one of their hero's. They are the biggest buyers of his book mien kampf and emulate his third reich as much as possible. There are still brigades of muslims that sport the deaths head and swastika emblems of the third reich.

Maybe you can show from a reliable source this getting along, and not isolated incidents. When a whole town comes out and beats two Jews to death and then proceeds to gorge themselves on their flesh it shown that the extremists are more widespread than you want the west to know.

Much of what you espouse is Insane putting it mildly......Yep I thought you were a Terrorist Zionist.......probably living in Israel........Your dictom does not represent Jews at all.

Isn't it strange that a race nearly wiped out 70 years ago......have treated another peoples(Your Cousins in FACT) in the same way.You are a disgrace and shameful.and a Liar

 

[theliq]

Steve, it's the same mindset which has seen 'eco-activists' put spikes into trees in the American Northwest logging country, hoping to destroy chain-saws - and not caring whatsoever that loggers have gotten maimed or killed by flying debris.

While I don't see a citation for Phoneall's allegations, it's not impossible. Just because an organization is supposedly humanitarian, doesn't vaccinate every last one of its members against bigotry or baggage.

I'd call Phonall's so-far-unsubstantiated allegations "anti-Oxfam" rather than anything else. Again, such views are not unknown: we've seen a couple of posters inveighing against the SPLC, for example.

As to what benefit those actions would be to 'Palestinians' or anyone else - you're missing the point. Some people are so embedded in their ideology that they aren't 'activists' because they care about the cause they supposedly advocate for: they are USING their 'activist' persona to pursue vendettas against those whom their ideology dictates they must target. We've seen some of this in the US from both the 'TEA party' AND the 'Occupy' crowd - both ideologically driven, both extremists.

You yourself, Steve, are an example of an 'ideologue' here, attributing to Zionism attitudes which are NO part of most Zionists' views.

It is NOT Israel which has disenfranchised and ejected citizens of 'non establishment' religion: the entire rest of the ME had done so some 60-odd years ago after the nations of the Arab League drew up plans to revoke the citizenship of their Jewish populations en masse, steal everything they had - and eject them.

Until those who would claim Israel has been 'ethnically cleansing' the Palestinians are willing to address that ethnic cleansing conspiracy - the Palestinian cause is being sullied by their blatant hypocrisy.

That cause is further degraded by the acceptance of blatant Holocaust denial among 'activists' and even governments - your government has made that behavior criminal, Steve. So most of the 'Palestinian activists' are consorting with criminals........

Steve, it's the same mindset which has seen 'eco-activists' put spikes into trees in the American Northwest logging country, hoping to destroy chain-saws - and not caring whatsoever that loggers have gotten maimed or killed by flying debris.

Actually that is a lie.

Hill and Knowlton, the PR firm that was hired to lie us into the first Gulf War, was hired to spread bullshit about the activists who were trying to save the forests.

You living in a nation that can take a week to drive across has no idea what is happening under your nose. Me living in a nation that I can drive form one side to the other in 4 hours, or from top to bottom in 12 sees what is happening. The eco terrorists don't care about life, just their stupid flavour of the month bee in their bonnet. They had fox hunting banned and are now complaining about the cost of chickens and sheep because the foxes are decimating the farms. They tried to ban fishing until they saw how much money was involved and how it would affect the environment. They will willingly kill a child to try and save an animal that will devastate the indigenous wildlife. All first hand knowledge of the eco terrorists that trespass on private land, leave gates open so animals can escape and let their dogs of to worry sheep. Two days later you see the same people working in the local Oxfam charity shop. In the UK we refer to them as the great unwashed gang, who travel around in dangerous vehicles from concert to concert destroying the ecology of the areas they squat on. very much like the Palestinians of 100 years ago.

Banal Comment to say the Least.

 

[theliq]

Steve, that subject has been hashed out a few times here so be a good boy, go Waltz Matilda like a good boy and let the grownups discuss matters.

Well the FOULMOUTH ROUDY carry Collaboration and Terrorism Guilt around their necks for life.That's why decent,honest and fair minded people,DETEST HIS SORT.Grown Ups....it's a cheap ,pathetic,one liner Hoss,that I didn't expect from you.steve

You think you're decent, honest, and fair minded?

Reefer madness! Ha ha ha.

Well it shows how ignorant you are.......I think I am the only person on here who hopes for a peaceful Palestine and Israel........You need to take that Silver Spoon Out of Your ASS and Shove it in YOUR MOUTH

See you around

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Well the FOULMOUTH ROUDY carry Collaboration and Terrorism Guilt around their necks for life.That's why decent,honest and fair minded people,DETEST HIS SORT.Grown Ups....it's a cheap ,pathetic,one liner Hoss,that I didn't expect from you.steve

You think you're decent, honest, and fair minded?

Reefer madness! Ha ha ha.

Well it shows how ignorant you are.......I think I am the only person on here who hopes for a peaceful Palestine and Israel........You need to take that Silver Spoon Out of Your ASS and Shove it in YOUR MOUTH

See you around

I always am uplifted to hear you express that hope for both, a peaceful Palestine and Israel.

You always keep that bright hope, for both sides, in front of everything.

 

[MHunterB]

Steve, it's the same mindset which has seen 'eco-activists' put spikes into trees in the American Northwest logging country, hoping to destroy chain-saws - and not caring whatsoever that loggers have gotten maimed or killed by flying debris.

While I don't see a citation for Phoneall's allegations, it's not impossible. Just because an organization is supposedly humanitarian, doesn't vaccinate every last one of its members against bigotry or baggage.

I'd call Phonall's so-far-unsubstantiated allegations "anti-Oxfam" rather than anything else. Again, such views are not unknown: we've seen a couple of posters inveighing against the SPLC, for example.

As to what benefit those actions would be to 'Palestinians' or anyone else - you're missing the point. Some people are so embedded in their ideology that they aren't 'activists' because they care about the cause they supposedly advocate for: they are USING their 'activist' persona to pursue vendettas against those whom their ideology dictates they must target. We've seen some of this in the US from both the 'TEA party' AND the 'Occupy' crowd - both ideologically driven, both extremists.

You yourself, Steve, are an example of an 'ideologue' here, attributing to Zionism attitudes which are NO part of most Zionists' views.

It is NOT Israel which has disenfranchised and ejected citizens of 'non establishment' religion: the entire rest of the ME had done so some 60-odd years ago after the nations of the Arab League drew up plans to revoke the citizenship of their Jewish populations en masse, steal everything they had - and eject them.

Until those who would claim Israel has been 'ethnically cleansing' the Palestinians are willing to address that ethnic cleansing conspiracy - the Palestinian cause is being sullied by their blatant hypocrisy.

That cause is further degraded by the acceptance of blatant Holocaust denial among 'activists' and even governments - your government has made that behavior criminal, Steve. So most of the 'Palestinian activists' are consorting with criminals........

Steve, it's the same mindset which has seen 'eco-activists' put spikes into trees in the American Northwest logging country, hoping to destroy chain-saws - and not caring whatsoever that loggers have gotten maimed or killed by flying debris.

Actually that is a lie.

Hill and Knowlton, the PR firm that was hired to lie us into the first Gulf War, was hired to spread bullshit about the activists who were trying to save the forests.

And you of course have documentation of that? And documentation that no such 'spiking' incidents EVER occurred?

 

[MHunterB]

Well the FOULMOUTH ROUDY carry Collaboration and Terrorism Guilt around their necks for life.That's why decent,honest and fair minded people,DETEST HIS SORT.Grown Ups....it's a cheap ,pathetic,one liner Hoss,that I didn't expect from you.steve

You think you're decent, honest, and fair minded?

Reefer madness! Ha ha ha.

Well it shows how ignorant you are.......I think I am the only person on here who hopes for a peaceful Palestine and Israel........You need to take that Silver Spoon Out of Your ASS and Shove it in YOUR MOUTH

See you around

Steve, you shouldn't claim to be my friend and then lie about me like that. I'm disappointed in you .......

 

[MHunterB]

"You living in a nation that can take a week to drive across has no idea what is happening under your nose."

Phoneall - it's only a week if you do nothing else BUT drive all day long - and that's in a very straight line using the interstate highways..... We've done it twice. If I were to plan such a trip now, I'd allow two weeks so we could actually SEE something on the way.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Steve, it's the same mindset which has seen 'eco-activists' put spikes into trees in the American Northwest logging country, hoping to destroy chain-saws - and not caring whatsoever that loggers have gotten maimed or killed by flying debris.

While I don't see a citation for Phoneall's allegations, it's not impossible. Just because an organization is supposedly humanitarian, doesn't vaccinate every last one of its members against bigotry or baggage.

I'd call Phonall's so-far-unsubstantiated allegations "anti-Oxfam" rather than anything else. Again, such views are not unknown: we've seen a couple of posters inveighing against the SPLC, for example.

As to what benefit those actions would be to 'Palestinians' or anyone else - you're missing the point. Some people are so embedded in their ideology that they aren't 'activists' because they care about the cause they supposedly advocate for: they are USING their 'activist' persona to pursue vendettas against those whom their ideology dictates they must target. We've seen some of this in the US from both the 'TEA party' AND the 'Occupy' crowd - both ideologically driven, both extremists.

You yourself, Steve, are an example of an 'ideologue' here, attributing to Zionism attitudes which are NO part of most Zionists' views.

It is NOT Israel which has disenfranchised and ejected citizens of 'non establishment' religion: the entire rest of the ME had done so some 60-odd years ago after the nations of the Arab League drew up plans to revoke the citizenship of their Jewish populations en masse, steal everything they had - and eject them.

Until those who would claim Israel has been 'ethnically cleansing' the Palestinians are willing to address that ethnic cleansing conspiracy - the Palestinian cause is being sullied by their blatant hypocrisy.

That cause is further degraded by the acceptance of blatant Holocaust denial among 'activists' and even governments - your government has made that behavior criminal, Steve. So most of the 'Palestinian activists' are consorting with criminals........

Steve, it's the same mindset which has seen 'eco-activists' put spikes into trees in the American Northwest logging country, hoping to destroy chain-saws - and not caring whatsoever that loggers have gotten maimed or killed by flying debris.

Actually that is a lie.

Hill and Knowlton, the PR firm that was hired to lie us into the first Gulf War, was hired to spread bullshit about the activists who were trying to save the forests.

And you of course have documentation of that? And documentation that no such 'spiking' incidents EVER occurred?

Phony Earth First! flyers and press releases calling for violence during Redwood Summer were traced to PR giant Hill & Knowlton by San Francisco Examiner columnist Rob Morse in an article published a month before the bombing. Morse wrote April 29, 1990, that he had received a press kit from H&K on behalf of "Earth First!'s nemesis, Pacific Lumber Co." Morse wrote:

"The kit included a press release on the Earth First! letterhead, but not written in the usual careful, sweet style of Earth First! It read like a bad Hollywood version of what radicals talk like... At the bottom of this ridiculous flyer was the name of Earth First! leader Darryl Cherney, with his first name misspelled.... Not only are trees being clear-cut, but dirty tricksters are turning them into fake press releases." [1] A copy of an internal Pacific Lumber memo, which was obatined as part of the disocvery process in a lawsuit between Darryl Cherney and the company, included Hill & Knowlton staff on the cc list.

In 2002, a federal trial jury exonerated Bari and Cherney, finding four FBI agents and three Oakland Police officers liable for a total of $4.4 million damages to Bari's estate and to Cherney. The damages were for violations of First Amendment rights to freedom of speech (80% of the damages) and for false arrest and unlawful search and seizure in violation of Fourth Amendment rights (20% of damages). A juror said she took special note and was angered when the jury was shown a video compilation of television news smear stories instigated by the FBI and police and broadcast for weeks following the bombing. It was shown at trial that the FBI and police never found any physical evidence whatsoever tying Bari or Cherney to the bomb.

Judi Bari - SourceWatch