Blue Jays clinch post-season berth with win over Royals

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Huh? The game was over if the UMP makes the right call? Series was over? Correct?

The only series Herzog lost as CARD MGR was to MINN fair and square. Cards could not hear in the metrodome was the only excuse ever made.

Puckett Gieatti Viola nothing to sneeze at. Herzog was great old time manager. Always squeezed out 7 exciting games. Unlike Larussa getting swept often at 2-3 teams.

Maybe Herzog was too old fashioned? But the best the Cards ever had in modern times.

Good LHP always beat STL back to Lolich. Viola also carved them up.

re read the post,you missed everything WHY he was the worst manager ever in playoff and world series games.

thank god royals owner ewing kaufmman fired him otherwise they would NEVER have beat the yankees in the playoffs.

every royals fan back then was saying the same thing i was back then - man if they would only get rid of herzog we could beat the yankees and they DID,his horrible managing skills ALWAYS cost the royals from beating the yankees. andwas i right or was i right that once the royals FINALLY got rid off idiot herzog,they FINALLY beat the yankees? i thought so.

had the royals had a competant manager like spaky anderson or tommy lasorda they would have EASILY have beat the yankees in 76 and 77,sparky and tommy would NEVER have pulled splittorf out of the 9th inning of games when he was mowing down hitters as that idiot always did.

billy martin benhced reggie jackson in 77 cause he could not never hit splitorf,yet idiot herzog took him out and jackson beat the royals cause of moron herzog.

all my friends said to me correctly back then-just as herzog cost the royals playoff games against the yankees,he blew it for the cardinals againse the twins as well.

you dont LEAVE staring pitcher in the game when he CANT get anybody out,you bring in your reliever which he did WAYYYYYY too late.

the white rat was a complete idiot,LOL

 

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re read the post,you missed everything WHY he was the worst manager ever in playoff and world series games.

thank god royals owner ewing kaufmman fired him otherwise they would NEVER have beat the yankees in the playoffs.

every royals fan back then was saying the same thing i was back then - man if they would only get rid of herzog we could beat the yankees and they DID,his horrible managing skills ALWAYS cost the royals from beating the yankees. andwas i right or was i right that once the royals FINALLY got rid off idiot herzog,they FINALLY beat the yankees? i thought so.

had the royals had a competant manager like spaky anderson or tommy lasorda they would have EASILY have beat the yankees in 76 and 77,sparky and tommy would NEVER have pulled splittorf out of the 9th inning of games when he was mowing down hitters as that idiot always did.

The UMPS never allowed KC or MINN (small market) to get past NY. MINN was repeatedly cheated IMO.

Same as early roundd NCAABB games, always big market given the calls. Nobody used to know. No TV way back or everybody working Thurs FRI. Duke would have 2-3 less titles IMVHO.

UCLA never had to play anybody? Win 3 games its over. East coast teams showed up beaten and battered.

 

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re read the post,you missed everything WHY he was the worst manager ever in playoff and world series games.

thank god royals owner ewing kaufmman fired him otherwise they would NEVER have beat the yankees in the playoffs.

every royals fan back then was saying the same thing i was back then - man if they would only get rid of herzog we could beat the yankees and they DID,his horrible managing skills ALWAYS cost the royals from beating the yankees. andwas i right or was i right that once the royals FINALLY got rid off idiot herzog,they FINALLY beat the yankees? i thought so.

had the royals had a competant manager like spaky anderson or tommy lasorda they would have EASILY have beat the yankees in 76 and 77,sparky and tommy would NEVER have pulled splittorf out of the 9th inning of games when he was mowing down hitters as that idiot always did.

billy martin benhced reggie jackson in 77 cause he could not never hit splitorf,yet idiot herzog took him out and jackson beat the royals cause of moron herzog.

I'm sorry . I don't read well. Long posts. Even my own. I'll re-read it.

 

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the most overrated hack manager in baseball as beliecheat is in football.

Well you're right. The Cards did not have to collapse after that bad call. I am wrong.

G7 was ridiculous with Furious Walking Underwear having to be carried off the mound.

 

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Well you're right. The Cards did not have to collapse after that bad call. I am wrong.

G7 was ridiculous with Furious Walking Underwear having to be carried off the mound.

you might inform danny that the ump is not to blame for the cardinals losing their composure and getting rattled over that bad call. LOL

that it was not going to be the third out to end the ballgame,it was only going to be the SECOND out so even if the correct call IS made,the ump is not to blame for the cards pitchers unable to get anybody out after that.

He needs to learn to be mature and accept REALITY and responsiblity that if he wants to blame ANYBODY for the cardinals losing that world series,blame it rightly so on the person who DESERVES the blame for the loss,the white rat

whit ey herzog

Herzog totally blew the world series for the cardinals that year.it was Herzog NOT the ump who brought in a reliever to face dane Iorg that pitched for another team before joining the cardinals that year.Iorg was with the cards before joining the royals and he had a HIGH success rate against that reliever Herzoc brought in when he was with that other team before joining the cardinals.

as i said before,Iorg was pleasantly surprised when he came into pinch hit and Herzog did not bring in another reliever to face him that he had HORRIBLE success against.he was expecting herzog to make that move when howser brought him into pinch hit and when he did not,Iorg was relieved so that was squarly on herzogs shoulders for the cards losing the world series,not the umps.

was the UMPIRE responsible for herzog being an idiot and bringing in that reliever Iorg always had a HUGE success against in the past instead of bringing in a reliever that was available to him Iorg had not had success against in the past?

The Manager is suppose to be the LEADER of the team. after they cardinals lost game six Herzog was mr negative saying-Its over,we've lost this world series already ,we might as well not show up for game 7 tomorrow.

GREAT WAY to be optimistic and keep the spirits up for the rest of the team huh?

If your leader is being negative and not confidant about the next game,then his vibe is going to rub off on all the other players right? LOL

Pete Rose showed what a REAL leader is suppose to be. When the Reds lost game six to the red sox in the world series in a heartbreaker,did Rose get all negative and start saying-we have aleady lost the world series,we might as well not show up for game 7? No,he kept their spirits up and told them they had one more game left and they could come back and win like a REAL leader does,

had herzog not been so negative going into game 7 and been optimisitc as rose was about game 7 against the red sox in their world series after losing a heartbreaker the previous night,maybe the cardinals wouldnt have gone in looking so flat you think?

 

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I honestly believe the white rat was paid off to throw that world series game.think about it.WHY would you bring in a reliever that Iorg had had a HUGE success with when Iorg was with the cardinals and that pitcher was playing for another team instead of a pitcher Iorg had TERRIBLE success against who was available ? its the only thing that makes sense.

I also believe in all my heart he was taking payoffs to throw playoff games against the yankees in 1976 and 1977 in game 5. Think about it, Paul splitorff was mowing down the yankees in the 9th inning in game 5 in 76 and they could not hit him,he took him out and the reliever gave up a home run that won the game for the yankees.

Royals owner ewing kauffman was furious with him saying-YOU JUST COST US A CHANCE TO GO TO THE WORLD SERIES AND WE MAY NEVER GET BACK THERE AGAIN.

he had to bring him back the next two seasons because they won the division both years again. sure enough in game 5 in 1977,same thing,splittorf is mowing down the yankees. Billy Martin did not start reggie jackson in that game cause he had a HORRIBLE success rate against splittorf,he could not hit him. what does herzog do? he takes splittorf out for a reliever and jackson gets a hit and knocks in what turned out to be the winning RBI WHY take out a pitcher that is mowing down the starting lineup and not leave him in against reggie jackson who was HORRIBLE at hitting against splittorrf?

seems pretty clear cut the white rat took payoffs to throw playoffs and world series games.

Royal fans like myself turned out to be prophet when we said-god dammit if the royals would just get rid of whit ey herzog they could beat the yankees and sure enough,once kaufmann got rid of herzog they DID beat the yankees in the playoffs finally.

 

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Who had this on their bingo card when the season began?
This is the 11th time Jays have been in the playoffs. That's a strong percentage considering the team has only been around since 1977 and the vast majority of their success was pre-Wild Card and in the toughest division in baseball at the time the AL East.

'85 they collapsed to the Royal after a 99 win season and being up 3-1 in the series (they just changed it to best of 7, it was best of 5 the season prior if I recall and they would have gone on).

'87 to me was the big collapse when they lost the last 7 and the Tigers snuck by them, including that last game when they lost 1-0 on a single HR that George Bell couldnt jump up and snag. That team was quite loaded and Bell had his MVP season.

'89 and and '91 they lost to the A's. '92 and '93, back to back WS.

It will be interesting to see if they are real or not. They are a close team.

Blue Jays clinch post-season berth with win over Royals

The Toronto Blue Jays are headed to the post-season for the 11th time in franchise history.

www.sportsnet.ca

KANSAS CITY, Mo. – The Toronto Blue Jays are headed to the post-season for the 11th time in franchise history, finally securing their berth by winning a game started by 2024 first-round pick Trey Yesavage, with lefty Eric Lauer throwing an important inning of leverage and with key contributions up and down the lineup.
Sunday afternoon’s 8-5 win over the Kansas City Royals was, in many ways, emblematic of a campaign in which they’ve played to a collective identity and borne the fruit of that approach. Breaking from a four-game losing streak that had delayed their celebration and allowed the New York Yankees to shrink their lead atop the AL East, the Blue Jays took an early lead, responded each time the Royals put up runs and eventually wore down their opponent.



Jeff Hoffman locked things down in the ninth and the Blue Jays went through the usual handshakes on the field right after.
Clinching the American League East remains – New York’s 7-1 win at Baltimore left it within two games – but the Blue Jays now have a week of games to sort through how their playoff rotation looks, get their players, in particular Anthony Santander and Bo Bichette, as healthy as possible, determine how best to deploy Yesavage in the post-season and try to win their first playoff game since 2016.

Yeah its funny how the blue jays have been a successful expansion team as the royals were and the seattle mariners have never been a contender except for a very brief point at one time.