Blowing Up Darwin

[scruffy]

But you haven't provided any science that supports Darwin's thesis.

We should strip you of all your science benefits.

That'll teach you.

 

[Hollie]

We should strip you of all your science benefits.

That'll teach you.

Her madrassah offers no benefits.

 

[scruffy]

The Bible posits a full array of life as authorized by a being known as God. No intermediates necessary. Spontaneous existence of new species.

No it doesn't, you lunatic.

You're unbelievably full of shit.

The Bible says no such thing.

Damn you're stupid.

 

[scruffy]

Scientists witness evolution in action when two lizard species meet for the first time

In South Florida, two Caribbean lizard species met for the first time. What followed provided some of the clearest evidence to date of evolution in action.

phys.org

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I doubt any atheist here has ever actually designed anything. I have, I've been designing machines of some form or another for over forty years and it's my full time job today. I design software, algorithms for manipulating and analyzing data sometimes abstruse data like written programming languages, parsers and interpreters and translators.

So I'd like to know how people who do not design things claim to be able to talk about design and what it is, what it can do and so on.

They are usually trumped up pop-science fans who know close to jack-shit about the subject yet expect to be treated as somehow being authoritative.

Argument to Authority wrapped in the Watchmaker Fallacy.

Quite a feat. A new intellectual low, for your discourse.

But the day is young.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Perfect explanation of Evolution!!

 

[scruffy]

We have yet to hear anyone issue a valid scientific claim against evolution.

The three broad categories of claims that were made are

1. There's stuff missing

2. It doesn't explain origins

3. The Bible tells a different story

Claim 3 is simply false. It is doctrinal and approaches heresy in its level of misinterpretation.

The answer to claims 1 and 2 are three simple words: "no shit, Sherlock".

The sub-claims of intelligent design are all based on assertions of the impossibility of evolution, which have already been proven false by mathematics and by modern genetics.

There's nothing left. All life on earth is biological and obeys the rules of physics and chemistry. All of it. Without exception.

There is no magic involved, nor has there EVER been magic involved. We humans are products of 4 billion years of biological evolution Period. There is not a single piece of evidence to the contrary.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Argument to Authority wrapped in the Watchmaker Fallacy.

Quite a feat. A new intellectual low, for your discourse.

But the day is young.

What design experience do you have then? None, so it's not me arguing from authority but you arguing from ignorance.

 

[Hollie]

What design experience do you have then?

This is pretty darn funny. The internet troll and self-proclaimed "scientist" believes she is a God of "design".

Her "design" experience involves designing her lunch menu.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

This is pretty darn funny. The internet troll and self-proclaimed "scientist" believes she is a God of "design".

Her "design" experience involves designing her lunch menu.

Design me an algorithm that can consume a sequence of decimal digits of unknown length and compute the super digit of the sequence, let me see your design skills in action. I asked the blowhard scruffy to do this and he couldn't but don't let that discourage you.

Why not try unintelligently writing random code over and over and continue until you eventually get a working solution, then tell us how long did that take?

What programming language would you like to use for this and why?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Notice folks how the usually bellowing waffler Hollie has been silenced by my rather trivial request, the self appointed "expert" on the natural production of complex machines from mindless goo has nothing to say and that's because it has no idea what design entails or how ridiculously unattainable a natural generation of working solutions is.

If there's no intelligence you'll never get a solution, this is a hard fact of life that the pop-science day dreamers like Hollie and abu afak and Fort Fun Indiana simply do not understand.

 

[Hollie]

Design me an algorithm that can consume a sequence of decimal digits of unknown length and compute the super digit of the sequence, let me see your design skills in action. I asked the blowhard scruffy to do this and he couldn't but don't let that discourage you.

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Why not try unintelligently writing random code over and over and continue until you eventually get a working solution, then tell us how long did that take?

What programming language would you like to use for this and why?

Can you design my lunch menu? Let's proceed in small steps so your design skills aren't taxed too heavily.

 

[Hollie]

Notice folks how the usually bellowing waffler Hollie has been silenced by my rather trivial request, the self appointed "expert" on the natural production of complex machines from mindless goo has nothing to say and that's because it has no idea what design entails or how ridiculously unattainable a natural generation of working solutions is.

If there's no intelligence you'll never get a solution, this is a hard fact of life that the pop-science day dreamers like Hollie and abu afak and Fort Fun Indiana simply do not understand.

Oh, dear. I really hurt your feelings with critique of your self-assigned, supernatural design skills. Your bloviating was entertaining. If you could provide some sort of unnatural design vs. a natural design, that would be helpful in confirming your alleged design skills.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Oh, dear. I really hurt your feelings with critique of your self-assigned, supernatural design skills. Your bloviating was entertaining. If you could provide some sort of unnatural design vs. a natural design, that would be helpful in confirming your alleged design skills.

You're a hopeless fool, you aren't interested in "confirming" anything because no matter what I might show to you you'd reject it as you've been doing all along. You're not the slightest bit interested in evidence that doesn't fit your cult's ideology, the cult of scientism.

 

[Hollie]

You're a hopeless fool, you aren't interested in "confirming" anything because no matter what I might show to you you'd reject it as you've been doing all along. You're not the slightest bit interested in evidence that doesn't fit your cult's ideology, the cult of scientism.

You have offered nothing but the nonsense you steal from your creation ministries. You're just another science loathing, science denying religious extremist.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

You have offered nothing but the nonsense you steal from your creation ministries. You're just another science loathing, science denying religious extremist.

If this is the way you were educated to respond to people who disagree with you, then I can only assume you are an only child who has weak doting parents who spoiled you all your life and that to this day you carry a deep sense of entitlement. You likely don't have a job and are supported by your parents to this day.

 

[Hollie]

If this is the way you were educated to respond to people who disagree with you, then I can only assume you are an only child who has weak doting parents who spoiled you all your life and that to this day you carry a deep sense of entitlement. You likely don't have a job and are supported by your parents to this day.

I can only think you are emotionally weak and frail as refutations to your extremist religious beliefs cause your emotional meltdowns.

Leave people alone with your ggods. Don't feel a need to force your gods on others. Your version of street- corner proselytizing is apparently stolen from the amount of time you spend trolling youtube.

Get some education in the physical and biological sciences. You sorely lack the knowledge most 7th graders possess.

 

[scruffy]

The business of equating evolution with atheism is simply butthurt on the part of doctrinal religionists.

There is no truth to it whatsoever.

Evolution is hard science involving mathematics as complex as general relativity. It is doubtful that religionists who misinterpret the Bible could wrap their minds around it.

Evidence? They're attacking a guy who's been dead for 150 years. Biochemistry didn't even exist 150 years ago. Dynamics "barely" existed. The LaPlace transform was invented during Darwin's lifetime. The Bromwich integral and Lerch's theorem took another 50 years.

The anti-Darwin screed is extreme butthurt by a group of people that are reading THEIR OWN words into the Bible. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that God poofed species into existence. In fact it doesn't say a single word about HOW. Those assertions are false interpretations by humans, NOT the Word of God.

 

[Hollie]

It needs to be said that Creationers are not working on any problem solving or investigation. Their sacred cows are sacrosanct and no questioning of the religion is allowed. They need to be honest with themselves and others. Creationer ministries have a common theme which is a ''statement of faith" that requires total and unquestioning allegiance to biblical rhetoric. That is nothing more than forced acceptance of the ideology.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The business of equating evolution with atheism is simply butthurt on the part of doctrinal religionists.

There is no truth to it whatsoever.

Sigh; an atheist cannot abandon naturalism, that's a truth you need to grasp and remember.

Evolution is hard science involving mathematics as complex as general relativity. It is doubtful that religionists who misinterpret the Bible could wrap their minds around it.

Evolution "theory" has no predictive power - that's rather a serious shortcoming in a scientific theory.



You can either rationally challenge what he says here or you can just call him names and dismiss, the latter course of action typifies militant atheists.

Tell me, how do we test the proposition (or rather belief in this case) that a bacterium can eventually give rise to a worm say?

Evidence? They're attacking a guy who's been dead for 150 years. Biochemistry didn't even exist 150 years ago. Dynamics "barely" existed. The LaPlace transform was invented during Darwin's lifetime. The Bromwich integral and Lerch's theorem took another 50 years.

I've personally never attacked Darwin, he was a superb scientist and I've said that for years.

The anti-Darwin screed is extreme butthurt by a group of people that are reading THEIR OWN words into the Bible. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that God poofed species into existence. In fact it doesn't say a single word about HOW. Those assertions are false interpretations by humans, NOT the Word of God.

I notice you only started using the phrase "butt hurt" recently, after Trump won the election, like an obedient magat you adopt all of the little quirks like a good boy.

Why drag Bibles into a discussion about evolution?? can you please try to stay on topic.