Blazing Saddles (free movie)

[LibertyWeeps]

Blazing Saddles

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Blazing Saddles (1974)

A corrupt governor will grant a reprieve to a convict under one condition: the condemned man agrees to serve as sheriff of a small Western town.

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[JoeB131]

Movie hasn't aged well for a number of reasons.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Movie hasn't aged well for a number of reasons.

It's aged just fine when viewed through the lens of it's time. Blazing Saddles mocks racism through comedy.

But I will say that Blazing Saddles could never be made today.

WW

 

[JoeB131]

It's aged just fine when viewed through the lens of it's time. Blazing Saddles mocks racism through comedy.

But I will say that Blazing Saddles could never be made today.

WW

Well, I would say there is no reason to make it today.

It was sending up classic westerns, which were already a dying fad by the 1970s, having been supplanted by Spaghetti Westerns, which were bloodier and grittier.

For instance, one joke in the movie Bart says, "You'd do it for Randolph Scott!" and everyone repeats Scott's name with reverence. Today, who the hell remembers who Randolph Scott was?

It's not just the racial humor that has aged badly. The movie has two jokes that treat rape as a punchline. There are cheap jokes at the expense of gay people and Chinese.

 

[22lcidw]

Well, I would say there is no reason to make it today.

It was sending up classic westerns, which were already a dying fad by the 1970s, having been supplanted by Spaghetti Westerns, which were bloodier and grittier.

For instance, one joke in the movie Bart says, "You'd do it for Randolph Scott!" and everyone repeats Scott's name with reverence. Today, who the hell remembers who Randolph Scott was?

It's not just the racial humor that has aged badly. The movie has two jokes that treat rape as a punchline. There are cheap jokes at the expense of gay people and Chinese.

It raised some eyebrows at the time of its release.

 

[MarathonMike]

Movie hasn't aged well for a number of reasons.

Come on Joe, it makes fun of Racism it's hilarious.

 

[JoeB131]

Come on Joe, it makes fun of Racism it's hilarious.

I'm not saying it isn't.

I'm just saying some elements of it haven't aged well.

 

[LibertyWeeps]

I'm not saying it isn't.

I'm just saying some elements of it haven't aged well.

Specify these "elements".

 

[JoeB131]

Specify these "elements".

Two jokes that use Rape as a punchline.
A Joke about Randolph Scott (who no one remembers today, but was still a big deal at the time)
The whole "Hedley Lamar" Joke about Harvey Corman's character. (The actual Hedy Lamarr sued Brooks, but no one remembers who she was today. Which is a pity, she's quite a fascinating woman.)
Gratuitous use of the N-word.
Gratuitous use of the word "C***k" to describe Chinese people.

But here's the movie's biggest problem. The whole "subversion of expectations" was taking the plot of a 1950s Hollywood Western and placing a black man in the lead role of the hero. Those movies were still a thing of recent memory when half the movies and TV shows in the 1950s were westerns, but Hollywood stopped making them by the 1970s, with the few westerns that were being made being gritty Spaghetti Westerns like the ones that Clint Eastwood starred in.

Today, no one really remembers these films.

Now, Brooks was always a bit late to the party. Young Frankenstein (Universal Horror), High Anxiety (Hitchcock films), and Spaceballs (Star Wars) all came after the things they were parodying had fizzled out.

A good parody hits when the iron is hot. He frequently hit when the iron was cold.

 

[22lcidw]

I'm not saying it isn't.

I'm just saying some elements of it haven't aged well.

There was social justice as a sheriff was a black man. Today much more common in 1974 when the film was made not as much and in the 19th century period the movie took place, very rare.

 

[martybegan]

Well, I would say there is no reason to make it today.

It was sending up classic westerns, which were already a dying fad by the 1970s, having been supplanted by Spaghetti Westerns, which were bloodier and grittier.

For instance, one joke in the movie Bart says, "You'd do it for Randolph Scott!" and everyone repeats Scott's name with reverence. Today, who the hell remembers who Randolph Scott was?

It's not just the racial humor that has aged badly. The movie has two jokes that treat rape as a punchline. There are cheap jokes at the expense of gay people and Chinese.

Of course JoeBlow's unfunny bone has sand in its vagina.

 

[martybegan]

Two jokes that use Rape as a punchline.
A Joke about Randolph Scott (who no one remembers today, but was still a big deal at the time)
The whole "Hedley Lamar" Joke about Harvey Corman's character. (The actual Hedy Lamarr sued Brooks, but no one remembers who she was today. Which is a pity, she's quite a fascinating woman.)
Gratuitous use of the N-word.
Gratuitous use of the word "C***k" to describe Chinese people.

But here's the movie's biggest problem. The whole "subversion of expectations" was taking the plot of a 1950s Hollywood Western and placing a black man in the lead role of the hero. Those movies were still a thing of recent memory when half the movies and TV shows in the 1950s were westerns, but Hollywood stopped making them by the 1970s, with the few westerns that were being made being gritty Spaghetti Westerns like the ones that Clint Eastwood starred in.

Today, no one really remembers these films.

Now, Brooks was always a bit late to the party. Young Frankenstein (Universal Horror), High Anxiety (Hitchcock films), and Spaceballs (Star Wars) all came after the things they were parodying had fizzled out.

A good parody hits when the iron is hot. He frequently hit when the iron was cold.

You are confusing Parody with Humorous Critique.

True Parody is embraced by the people who are fans of what is being parodied.

Just like as a Star Trek fan I loved Galaxy Quest, and as a World of Warcraft player I enjoyed South Park's "Make love not Warcraft"

 

[JoeB131]

Of course JoeBlow's unfunny bone has sand in its vagina.

Never said it wasn't funny. I'm saying the jokes haven't aged well. Vulgar jokes can still be funny, but they are also vulgar.

You are confusing Parody with Humorous Critique.

True Parody is embraced by the people who are fans of what is being parodied.

Just like as a Star Trek fan I loved Galaxy Quest, and as a World of Warcraft player I enjoyed South Park's "Make love not Warcraft"

Except Galaxy Quest was never really mean-spirited. South Park is usually mean-spirited in its humor.

 

[martybegan]

Never said it wasn't funny. I'm saying the jokes haven't aged well. Vulgar jokes can still be funny, but they are also vulgar.



Except Galaxy Quest was never really mean-spirited. South Park is usually mean-spirited in its humor.

South park is juvenile in its humor, not really mean spirited to me.

 

[JoeB131]

South park is juvenile in its humor, not really mean spirited to me.

Actually, as much as I hate Trump, even I thought they were over the top this season.

 

[martybegan]

Actually, as much as I hate Trump, even I thought they were over the top this season.

A mea culpa to their hollywood friends.

You don't get mad at a dog pissing on a fire hydrant, it's just being a dog.

Sooner or later they will circle back to jamming on the left, the target is just too easy.