Bill O'Reilly and Tea Party: Hispanics are not traditional Americans

doesn't the POTUS always have higher poll numbers than congress?

Considering Obama's record, one would think the disapproval rating would be closer to the GOP's, but I guess that this shows how pathetic the GOP is in the eyes of Americans.
I think it's all the rhetoric that the public hears and the no-compromise constant stance by the GOP. People are smart enough to know nothing is getting done as America slides downwards and because of the very vocal opposition to doing anything, the GOP gets the nod of disapproval. If they even toned down the rhetoric a tiny bit, they might see a rise in the polls. In other words, stop screaming and start doing something.
 

Then let's look at the approval rating for the GOP in Congress, 24% approval and 66% disapproval (Fox News) and that's the best they did with multiple pools.
Congress: Republicans
Both parties are out to lunch, there's no doubt about that. But clearly the GOP has a bad, bad image and a majority of Americans think the GOP is extremist.
Based on all the wild and crazy threads spewing hate, hate, hate, it's not hard to see why the GOP has such a negative image at all.
Hell, I agree with quite a bit by the right but as long as they preach absolute hate and fear, there isn't any way I can vote for them. And I'm just one of the millions of voters who occupy the middle who feel this way.
I'd love to see the GOP get it's act together and I'd love to see the Dems get their act together. Maybe then, America would finally get moving forward instead of standing still or going backwards as the rest of the world passes us by.
The Democrats in Congress don't fare much better with 32/60 and at the end of the day the 2014 midterms and the 2016 election will be decided by how good of a job the country thinks the President is doing.

Well, in 2012 that concept didn't work well for the GOP.
The GOP has to turn down the volume of constantly being so negative, that approach doesn't work with the entire voting public. In other words negativism doesn't exactly provide hope.
 
Yup, reactionaries insult Latinos and Hispanics, then wonder why the vote against their candidates.
 
Then let's look at the approval rating for the GOP in Congress, 24% approval and 66% disapproval (Fox News) and that's the best they did with multiple pools.
Congress: Republicans
Both parties are out to lunch, there's no doubt about that. But clearly the GOP has a bad, bad image and a majority of Americans think the GOP is extremist.
Based on all the wild and crazy threads spewing hate, hate, hate, it's not hard to see why the GOP has such a negative image at all.
Hell, I agree with quite a bit by the right but as long as they preach absolute hate and fear, there isn't any way I can vote for them. And I'm just one of the millions of voters who occupy the middle who feel this way.
I'd love to see the GOP get it's act together and I'd love to see the Dems get their act together. Maybe then, America would finally get moving forward instead of standing still or going backwards as the rest of the world passes us by.
The Democrats in Congress don't fare much better with 32/60 and at the end of the day the 2014 midterms and the 2016 election will be decided by how good of a job the country thinks the President is doing.

Well, in 2012 that concept didn't work well for the GOP.
The GOP has to turn down the volume of constantly being so negative, that approach doesn't work with the entire voting public. In other words negativism doesn't exactly provide hope.
Hope and change did not exactly provide hope either if it had the Democrats would have taken the House back the 2012 Presidential results had more to do with a weak candidate who let his opposition define him early and never really fought back against that if 2012 shows anything it's that neither party has a distinct advantage going into 2014 or 2016.
 
We in the GOP who understand politics realize just how weak the party is going into next year's elections.

Romney was the very best of a bad lot of candidates, made even weaker because of reactionary silliness.

Now some are pissing off the Latinos who we need to become a majority party again.
 
Here's the facts.

Hispanics have been in this Country longer than most Europeans.

There's nothing more "traditionally" American than a Hispanic.
 
Why would Hispanics be traditional Americans, they don't care about Americas traditions.
 
Want support for the OP.

Read squeeze and tank's remarks.
 
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The Democrats in Congress don't fare much better with 32/60 and at the end of the day the 2014 midterms and the 2016 election will be decided by how good of a job the country thinks the President is doing.

Well, in 2012 that concept didn't work well for the GOP.
The GOP has to turn down the volume of constantly being so negative, that approach doesn't work with the entire voting public. In other words negativism doesn't exactly provide hope.
Hope and change did not exactly provide hope either if it had the Democrats would have taken the House back the 2012 Presidential results had more to do with a weak candidate who let his opposition define him early and never really fought back against that if 2012 shows anything it's that neither party has a distinct advantage going into 2014 or 2016.

The GOP lost the election because the moderate voters, who made up the largest voting bloc in the 2012 election didn't vote an alleged moderate GOP candidate because maybe they didn't feel he was moderate enough? Romney repeated quite a few stances to appeal to the far right element for several months of the primary season. That came back and bite Romney in the ass.
A turnip should have beaten Obama based on his failure for hope and change.
The GOP has to learn that how the GOP defines itself isn't popular with the center and moderate conservatives (RINOs). That's a lot of voters.
 
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The Conservative movement was politically in the wilderness during the long postwar period. If a Republican got near office he had to be a centrist like Eisenhower or Nixon. Meaning: he tacitly (if not rhetorically) accepted the New Deal and Big Government. (Remember FDR created a very powerful coalition out of middle class people across the nation, including the South and heartland whom he delivered many favors to)

Barry Goldwater wanted to unmake the great postwar consensus for big government. He wanted to break the New Deal coalition which had Washington in lockdown. He represented a growing movement of conservatives who wanted to rebuild a grand conservative movement - one that did not compromise with the left. Unfortunately for Goldwater, America wasn't quite ready. And one big reason was because the south was solidly blue. (Dixiecrats > "The Solid South")

And then LBJ signed the Civil Rights Bill.

A door opened.

The Conservative Movement created the "Southern Strategy" by capitalizing on white backlash against intrusive federalism. The strategy worked. Reagan flipped the south and the GOP has not looked back since. But the right didn't stop at Civil Rights backlash, rather, they enlarged their appeal to backlash against all "non-traditional" Americans. They blew the dog whistle and called all the bigots home. They gave a home not just to racists, but anyone who hated latinos, jews, blacks, Muslims, gays, etc. They exploited white suburban angst over the sixties social movements (hippies, bra burners, anti-war students, progressive lifestyles). The Right gave a home to any white person who was not happy with non-whites & non-christians & any non-traditional American. They built a party of exclusion and fear-of-the-other. They separated our great country into "Real Americans" and non-Real Americans. They divided people. They instigated fear and manipulated good citizens who did not have the education to question their politics of demonization.

Fast forward to the 2012 election. A ham sandwich could have beaten Obama with this economy. But the Rightwing pundits quietly preached against latinos, and they have for several elections tried to move blacks off the voting rolls. In Arizona they stop people with brown skin as if it were Nazi Germany ...looking for jews. When America was mostly a white nation, this kind of shit worked. The GOP won elections for 30 years on the backs of hateful, scared, bigoted morons. But now, the groups that the GOP has been demonizing are large enough to tilt the outcome of an election. And these groups represent the fastest growing demographics in the nation. And let's not even talk about women and the forced ultra sound. And forcing them to carry their rapist baby to term.

You cannot win a national election by treating large voting blocks like they are not real Americans.

The Conservative Movement cannot win without latinos and blacks. Granted, they lie to old people about their true intentions for medicare, but it's impossible to lie to everybody. Look what happened to Romney? He had to disown the primaries when he accosted Rick Parry for educating and providing medical services to poor latino children.

You can't win a national election any more by praying on the fears of whites. Hate doesn't get it done anymore. This is why Karl Rove and George Bush had a latino outreach program. This is why Bush ran to the Left on immigration. bush and Rover understood that you can't win an election by alienating non-whites.

When is the Right going to kick out the Tea Party and the bigots and the morons? They forced black people in Miami to stand in line over night. This doesn't work anymore.

When are they going to take back their party?

When Bill O'Reilly demonizes latinos before an election, he is losing needed votes. When he accuses latinos of being lazy and voting for any candidate who give them more stuff, he is shitting on real human beings, many of whom work hard.

True.

The problem is that for every radical, extreme republican incumbent there’s an even more radical, more extreme republican candidate waiting in the wings to primary the incumbent should he go off the crazy message.
 
Saying that Hispanics are not traditional Americans is not demonizing them any more than saying that having faith in the recreation of Aztlan is not patriotic.

First you have to define what a traditional American is. Let's hear your definition of a traditional American.
 
Well, in 2012 that concept didn't work well for the GOP.
The GOP has to turn down the volume of constantly being so negative, that approach doesn't work with the entire voting public. In other words negativism doesn't exactly provide hope.
Hope and change did not exactly provide hope either if it had the Democrats would have taken the House back the 2012 Presidential results had more to do with a weak candidate who let his opposition define him early and never really fought back against that if 2012 shows anything it's that neither party has a distinct advantage going into 2014 or 2016.

The GOP lost the election because the moderate voters, who made up the largest voting bloc in the 2012 election didn't vote an alleged moderate GOP candidate because maybe they didn't feel he was moderate enough? Romney repeated quite a few stances to appeal to the far right element for several months of the primary season. That came back and bite Romney in the ass.
A turnip should have beaten Obama based on his failure for hope and change.
The GOP has to learn that how the GOP defines itself isn't popular with the center and moderate conservatives (RINOs). That's a lot of voters.
The primary stances didn't play that big a part in my opinion all candidates play to their base in the primary's Obama is no moderate to be sure that was proven in how he governed Romney lost because he failed to highlight this and because he let the Obama campaign portray him as the evil rich guy who lights cigars with hundred dollar bills and relishes the suffering of the poor basically unchallenged.
 
Here's the facts.

Hispanics have been in this Country longer than most Europeans.

There's nothing more "traditionally" American than a Hispanic.

Excuse me there hero, where is Spain?

Where it rains on the plains.

How was that burrito you had for lunch, yesterday?

:lol:

The Spanish are Europeans and I had American burritos for lunch, their called hotdogs. Any more stupid questions?
 

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