Betsy DeVos: Common Core is Dead

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I have no problem if common core is 100% voluntary, But these sort of deals are not ever.
Progressive ought to keep that shit to themselves..

Commie Core is the biggest pile of commie shit ever put upon American children........ten steps to reach the same conclusion (unless a consensus was reached) that two steps would accomplish.

I agree, but I am teaching my kid the traditional method and showing her how it applies to her common core math. She gets it.

Good for you!

I am doing the same with my grandsons!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

That statement has nothing to do with what I posted.

Do you know how pathetic you are looking right now? You can't answer a simple question because it will prove you don't know what you are talking about!

I have more respect for a flaming liberal than what you are showing me here.

Lil Tory.....I know what I am "talking about".....and I lay down the gauntlet for you to respond to me........I will GLADLY give you my cell-phone number so we can discuss this issue......I bet you wouldn't do it even on a dare, punkinpuss.

Why should I? Are you going to threaten to hit me with your purse?

We can discuss it here if you will actually stick to facts and not bloviating your opinions that are based on your ignorance.

You and "facts" don't even have a nodding acquaintance with each other, "Tory".........I am what I claim I am.......are you?

Absolutely! Why would you think otherwise?

So you are a douchebag????? I give you props for admitting as much.........(snicker)

Lame. So very lame. Are you going to discuss this like an adult of should we end our exchange now?

 

[Dale Smith]

Common Core tries to teach logical extrapolation instead of memorization. IMO memorization (especially of times tables) is a better way to go but Common Core lays the foundation for higher math and stresses equations. I think the kids bright enough to learn both memorization and using equations (common core) will be light years ahead. I have experience with my 9-year old granddaughter helping her with math. Common core is a different approach to math that's all. I think all math methods should be taught.

Yeaaaaaaghhhhhhh, 4 minus 3 requires a complicated commie core formula...you betcha...
8 times 8? HOLY shit!!!! That requires complicated steps to reach a conclusion that the answer is 64............unless the consensus says otherwise.


(snicker)

Ya I know....Teach your kids real math....They will be light years ahead of the common core students.

Yeah, they will know that 2 plus 2 = 4 and it didn't take a consensus to reach that conclusion.


(snicker)

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You're vastly overpaid. I made a good living and worked hard in factories as a printer and machine adjuster until physically unable, then paid my way through medical transcription school, taught myself to type, worked in the medical field for 15 years, then retired. Doing just fine. How's my punctuation, teacher.

I hear ya....I was a factory worker for 30 years then started my own business which I still work at. Only in America.

Yep, and we worked hard for everything we have. These statists are way overpaid and show disdain for taxpayers that work every day, not just 9 months.

Ah, so we have fallen back on the old 9 month myth and the overpaid teacher myth. I don't get paid if I don't work. Do you get paid when you go on vacation like most people do? Not me! If you run your own business, do you close for your vacations and never make a dime?

I get maybe 6 weeks off in the summer. That is payback for the normal 14+ hour days during the week at least another 8 on the weekends.

I still don't see what this has to do with your not knowing that Common Core "died" over 2 years ago.

 

[BS Filter]

You're vastly overpaid. I made a good living and worked hard in factories as a printer and machine adjuster until physically unable, then paid my way through medical transcription school, taught myself to type, worked in the medical field for 15 years, then retired. Doing just fine. How's my punctuation, teacher.

I hear ya....I was a factory worker for 30 years then started my own business which I still work at. Only in America.

Yep, and we worked hard for everything we have. These statists are way overpaid and show disdain for taxpayers that work every day, not just 9 months.

Ah, so we have fallen back on the old 9 month myth and the overpaid teacher myth. I don't get paid if I don't work. Do you get paid when you go on vacation like most people do? Not me! If you run your own business, do you close for your vacations and never make a dime?

I get maybe 6 weeks off in the summer. That is payback for the normal 14+ hour days during the week at least another 8 on the weekends.

I still don't see what this has to do with your not knowing that Common Core "died" over 2 years ago.

Yes, you do get paid when you don't work. You have sick pay and you can arrange to have your pay spread over 12 months. My wife is a teacher's aide. She works in the Public School system and hates common core.

 

[Leo123]

Yep, and we worked hard for everything we have. These statists are way overpaid and show disdain for taxpayers that work every day, not just 9 months.

Statistics are based on a population of data that is typically edited to throw out anything that does not fit within that population of data. Any statistical evaluation should include the definition and number of 'outliers' that were omitted.

 

[Rustic]

What was your expertise when you were an educator?

I taught middle and high school math and social studies, plus I spent almost 2 years as an assistant principal.

How about you?

Still no facts! Cute. Really cute.

Now, what state are you in and I will tell you how long you have suffered under Common Core? Now that you are free at last, would you like to know how messed up your beliefs were?

South Dakota, That is the point it should never even be considered. failure should not be an option.
Just like socialism common core just keeps on popping up, you do know the definition of insanity?

Just FYI, I assume they were implemented for the 2011-2012 school year and since they went away as of 2016, you probably had a total of a whopping 6 years under Common Core as dictated by the feds.

Now for the bad news, your state is still using Common Core standards for math and English Language Arts adopted in 2010.

I think you better be contacting your state legislators.

SD Department of Education



Here is another important tidbit for you from that website:

What South Dakota Content Standards Do Not

• Do Not dictate how teachers should teach
• Do Not mandate a specific curriculum
• Do Not limit advanced work beyond the standards

That’s why I homeschool my kids

 

[BS Filter]

You're vastly overpaid. I made a good living and worked hard in factories as a printer and machine adjuster until physically unable, then paid my way through medical transcription school, taught myself to type, worked in the medical field for 15 years, then retired. Doing just fine. How's my punctuation, teacher.

I hear ya....I was a factory worker for 30 years then started my own business which I still work at. Only in America.

Yep, and we worked hard for everything we have. These statists are way overpaid and show disdain for taxpayers that work every day, not just 9 months.

Ah, so we have fallen back on the old 9 month myth and the overpaid teacher myth. I don't get paid if I don't work. Do you get paid when you go on vacation like most people do? Not me! If you run your own business, do you close for your vacations and never make a dime?

I get maybe 6 weeks off in the summer. That is payback for the normal 14+ hour days during the week at least another 8 on the weekends.

I still don't see what this has to do with your not knowing that Common Core "died" over 2 years ago.

Since CC is dead, why are you still arguing and supporting it?

 

[Flopper]

Going to take a long time to undo the damage caused by the Obama Error.

Betsy DeVos: Common Core is dead at U.S. Department of Education | Get Schooled

35 states have adopted common core as a standard. 6 states have partially adopted it. 6 states have adopted it and later repealed it and 3 states have not adopted. Some form of common core eventually will be accepted by all states as universities across the country adapt their curriculum and their admittance requirements. This will probably take a decade or more but it is coming.

The DOE was never part of the development of common core. It was a state initiative. In 2015, the Every Student Success Act expressly prohibits the Department of Education from attempting to "influence, incentivize, or coerce State adoption of the Common Core State Standards ... or any other academic standards common to a significant number of States. Common Core has been dead in the DOE for over two years. I guess no one told DeVos.

 

[Leo123]

Yes, you do get paid when you don't work. You have sick pay and you can arrange to have your pay spread over 12 months. My wife is a teacher's aide. She works in the Public School system and hates common core.

I think teachers are way underpaid in the first place. They hold the future of our Republic in their hands.

 

[BS Filter]

Yes, you do get paid when you don't work. You have sick pay and you can arrange to have your pay spread over 12 months. My wife is a teacher's aide. She works in the Public School system and hates common core.

I think teachers are way underpaid in the first place. They hold the future of our Republic in their hands.

I support teachers of all kinds, but I do not support the Federal DOE. I support charter schools and home schooling.

 

[Dale Smith]

Lil Tory.....I know what I am "talking about".....and I lay down the gauntlet for you to respond to me........I will GLADLY give you my cell-phone number so we can discuss this issue......I bet you wouldn't do it even on a dare, punkinpuss.

Why should I? Are you going to threaten to hit me with your purse?

We can discuss it here if you will actually stick to facts and not bloviating your opinions that are based on your ignorance.

You and "facts" don't even have a nodding acquaintance with each other, "Tory".........I am what I claim I am.......are you?

Absolutely! Why would you think otherwise?

So you are a douchebag????? I give you props for admitting as much.........(snicker)

Lame. So very lame. Are you going to discuss this like an adult of should we end our exchange now?

Discuss the merits of consensual agreement as it pertains to a mathematics equation????

But what the ****....seriously.....I am debating an idiot that believes two airliners took down three buildings on 9/11.....it's not like I am attempting to engage in a discussion with someone that has the gift of discernment to begin with.

Let me put this in simple language that even an idiot like you should be able to understand.....I would NEVER have allowed my children to be "taught" or "schooled" by an idiot like you..........not ever. Fortunately, they didn't have an idiot like you teaching any of their classes and HAD you been one of their "instructors"? Well, let's just say that it wouldn't have fared well for either one of us......and you can etch that one in stone.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The parents are ultimately responsible. If they don't like the public school, they can send their child to a private school or homeschool them. If they fail to educate them, it then becomes the state's responsibility.

When you get to my other post, you should be so embarrassed because I ate your lunch!

Not quite. If we don't like the public education system we're going to fix it, and that's what we're doing. We pay for it. You work for me.

Not any more! Ha ha!

Good. Whatever you were getting paid was more than you're worth.

I made over $300 a day. That's about $50.00 an hour. Now, I will sit back and soak up my retirement while working in a low stress job of my choosing.

How about you, sunshine?

You're vastly overpaid. I made a good living and worked hard in factories as a printer and machine adjuster until physically unable, then paid my way through medical transcription school, taught myself to type, worked in the medical field for 15 years, then retired. Doing just fine. Never took a dime from the state, but paid my taxes that paid your wages. How's my punctuation, teacher.

I am overpaid? I pay for my own retirement. I don't get paid when we are on breaks, If I go on vacation, so does everyone else and the airfare triples so if I want to see my granddaughter it costs me a grand or more in airfare that would normally be a few hundred. I pay for part of my own medical, my life insurance, and any other benefits I want come out of my pocket. I spent 9 years in college after high school, and paid for all of my certification tests and licenses. I worked countless hours for no pay for faculty meetings, professional development training (24 hours per year) parent-teacher conferences, selling tickets at sporting events, and chaperoning proms.

I think you are getting a bargain considering that $300 a day is what forced me to retire. Although I am nowhere close to the top of the pay scale, no one will hire me when they can hire two cases of fresh meat out of college for less than half my salary.

BTW, your punctuation is excellent!

I respect the work you do, but you don't respect what I did. Maybe it;s because you are a little jealous and don't know the whole story?

 

[Rustic]

Common core does in 10 steps what traditional education does in the step and a half

 

[Rustic]

Common core is not sufficient enough to educate my kids

 

[BS Filter]

Not quite. If we don't like the public education system we're going to fix it, and that's what we're doing. We pay for it. You work for me.

Not any more! Ha ha!

Good. Whatever you were getting paid was more than you're worth.

I made over $300 a day. That's about $50.00 an hour. Now, I will sit back and soak up my retirement while working in a low stress job of my choosing.

How about you, sunshine?

You're vastly overpaid. I made a good living and worked hard in factories as a printer and machine adjuster until physically unable, then paid my way through medical transcription school, taught myself to type, worked in the medical field for 15 years, then retired. Doing just fine. Never took a dime from the state, but paid my taxes that paid your wages. How's my punctuation, teacher.

I am overpaid? I pay for my own retirement. I don't get paid when we are on breaks, If I go on vacation, so does everyone else and the airfare triples so if I want to see my granddaughter it costs me a grand or more in airfare that would normally be a few hundred. I pay for part of my own medical, my life insurance, and any other benefits I want come out of my pocket. I spent 9 years in college after high school, and paid for all of my certification tests and licenses. I worked countless hours for no pay for faculty meetings, professional development training (24 hours per year) parent-teacher conferences, selling tickets at sporting events, and chaperoning proms.

I think you are getting a bargain considering that $300 a day is what forced me to retire. Although I am nowhere close to the top of the pay scale, no one will hire me when they can hire two cases of fresh meat out of college for less than half my salary.

BTW, your punctuation is excellent!

I respect the work you do, but you don't respect what I did. Maybe it;s because you are a little jealous and don't know the whole story?

Naw, I'm not jealous. I don't compare myself with others. However, $300 a day for a teacher is outrageous. Parents that home school do a good job usually and they're not paid at all. They sacrifice by staying home.

 

[Rustic]

Common core is a failure in the real world

 

[Leo123]

Common core is not sufficient enough to educate my kids

It is a supplement at best.

 

[Rustic]

 

[Rustic]

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