Best argument for the Senate to vote against brand new witnesses...

[Godboy]

Cool...then we should pass a constitutional amendment to either remove the impeachment process entirely, thus clearing the path for future presidents to do whatever they want.....

(In case you didn't know, Trump will not be president forever...)

Or...pass an amendment that says impeachments can only last as long as whoever the person who is most butthurt about it tells you it can last....a day, 30 minutes...who cares....

Funny how all of this bitching about anti-impeachment comes about when a republican is the one getting impeached

Its funny how all the democrats stopped being anti impeachment when it is a republican being impeached.

 

[MAGAman]

Schiff literally explained the withdrawal... what was the lie?

and if the senate really cared about the truth then yes they should hear from first hand witnesses. They took an oath to be impartial. The ridiculousness comes from the blatant partisanship

Why did Shiffft say Republicans should care more about witnesses than he did?

 

[Slade3200]

Schiff literally explained the withdrawal... what was the lie?

and if the senate really cared about the truth then yes they should hear from first hand witnesses. They took an oath to be impartial. The ridiculousness comes from the blatant partisanship

Why did Shiffft say Republicans should care more about witnesses than he did?

He didn’t say that... unless I missed it. Do you have the quote?

 

[Superbadbrutha]

I guess the fact that the witnesses weren't allowed and the documents were not turned over really doesn't matter does it.

It didn't matter to Pelosi or she would have subpoenaed them.

You do know what subpoenas are and what their purpose is, dont you?

Did Barr appear before the House committee?

Did Mulvaney appear before the House committee?

Did the WH send over documents to the House committee?

Btw all of these folks were subpoenaed, you do know that.

 

[hadit]

Trump's excellent attorney's made this point......if the Senate votes to allow new witnesses......it will extend the proceedings for months...tying up the Senate during that time.

If this becomes the new standard....where the House can ship over impeachment without needing to call witnesses in the House....they will do this as a precedent......doing a quick impeachment, and then forcing the Senate to stop everything they do, to deal with witnesses the House should have called during the impeachment......

This, all by itself, is a reason above politics to not call new witnesses........

thats bullshit. The republicans still control the senate so they control which witnesses get voted in. They could vote to allow just one witness. That would not take months. Weak argument man

Wrong......one witness could tie up the Senate for weeks.....and again....it is the House that is supposed to investigate and gather witnesses...not the Senate.

How could a witness tie up the senate for weeks?

They can fight the subpoena.......they can depose them for weeks.......it isn't the Senates job to find witnesses..

Depose them for weeks? What are you talking about?

If they fight the subpoena there is a Supreme Court justice presiding over the senate trial who can make a quick ruling.

One justice can’t make a ruling Like that on his own. The whole court would have to hear it.

 

[Slade3200]

thats bullshit. The republicans still control the senate so they control which witnesses get voted in. They could vote to allow just one witness. That would not take months. Weak argument man

Wrong......one witness could tie up the Senate for weeks.....and again....it is the House that is supposed to investigate and gather witnesses...not the Senate.

How could a witness tie up the senate for weeks?

They can fight the subpoena.......they can depose them for weeks.......it isn't the Senates job to find witnesses..

Depose them for weeks? What are you talking about?

If they fight the subpoena there is a Supreme Court justice presiding over the senate trial who can make a quick ruling.

One justice can’t make a ruling Like that on his own. The whole court would have to hear it.

tje rules are currently a majority vote. The Dems have been pushing for a judicial ruling. Either way it is a much quicker process than the lower courts

 

[WEATHER53]

We can’t make our case so you must make it for us because there is always someone out there who has what will sink Trump

 

[BuckToothMoron]

Trump's excellent attorney's made this point......if the Senate votes to allow new witnesses......it will extend the proceedings for months...tying up the Senate during that time.

If this becomes the new standard....where the House can ship over impeachment without needing to call witnesses in the House....they will do this as a precedent......doing a quick impeachment, and then forcing the Senate to stop everything they do, to deal with witnesses the House should have called during the impeachment......

This, all by itself, is a reason above politics to not call new witnesses........

I say call witnesses. All witnesses. Biden, his coke head son, Bolton, BO, John Kerry, Hellary,all the Ukrainians involved, the principals from Burisma, and anybody else who has ever had a thing to do with this. Make it painful for everybody. Then they all will think twice before playing the game of 100% political impeachment.

 

[Crixus]

Trump's excellent attorney's made this point......if the Senate votes to allow new witnesses......it will extend the proceedings for months...tying up the Senate during that time.

If this becomes the new standard....where the House can ship over impeachment without needing to call witnesses in the House....they will do this as a precedent......doing a quick impeachment, and then forcing the Senate to stop everything they do, to deal with witnesses the House should have called during the impeachment......

This, all by itself, is a reason above politics to not call new witnesses........

I don't know. With the new Bolten tape of him doing that interview in Ukrain or wherever it was I kind of would like to see him under oath discussing the phone call which Bolten quoted as "warm" and "cordial". It would also be intresting to dig into the fact that all of a sudden his book is pulled because it was classified info. I want to know who leaked .

 

[Slade3200]

We can’t make our case so you must make it for us because there is always someone out there who has what will sink Trump

What a dishonest way to present the situation. You don’t really expect people to buy that crap do you?

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Trump's excellent attorney's made this point......if the Senate votes to allow new witnesses......it will extend the proceedings for months...tying up the Senate during that time.

If this becomes the new standard....where the House can ship over impeachment without needing to call witnesses in the House....they will do this as a precedent......doing a quick impeachment, and then forcing the Senate to stop everything they do, to deal with witnesses the House should have called during the impeachment......

This, all by itself, is a reason above politics to not call new witnesses........

I say call witnesses. All witnesses. Biden, his coke head son, Bolton, BO, John Kerry, Hellary,all the Ukrainians involved, the principals from Burisma, and anybody else who has ever had a thing to do with this. Make it painful for everybody. Then they all will think twice before playing the game of 100% political impeachment.

Actually the only witnesses you need to hear from are those who know about this call and why Trump was withholding the money. Calling these other folks is nothing but smoke and mirrors.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

Trump's excellent attorney's made this point......if the Senate votes to allow new witnesses......it will extend the proceedings for months...tying up the Senate during that time.

If this becomes the new standard....where the House can ship over impeachment without needing to call witnesses in the House....they will do this as a precedent......doing a quick impeachment, and then forcing the Senate to stop everything they do, to deal with witnesses the House should have called during the impeachment......

This, all by itself, is a reason above politics to not call new witnesses........

I say call witnesses. All witnesses. Biden, his coke head son, Bolton, BO, John Kerry, Hellary,all the Ukrainians involved, the principals from Burisma, and anybody else who has ever had a thing to do with this. Make it painful for everybody. Then they all will think twice before playing the game of 100% political impeachment.

Actually the only witnesses you need to hear from are those who know about this call and why Trump was withholding the money. Calling these other folks is nothing but smoke and mirrors.

spoken like a true partisan pussy. This impeachment, just like Clinton’s, is nothing more than a political attack. Biden and his son’s shenanigans in Ukraine are worse than Trumps. So I say burn them both.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Trump's excellent attorney's made this point......if the Senate votes to allow new witnesses......it will extend the proceedings for months...tying up the Senate during that time.

If this becomes the new standard....where the House can ship over impeachment without needing to call witnesses in the House....they will do this as a precedent......doing a quick impeachment, and then forcing the Senate to stop everything they do, to deal with witnesses the House should have called during the impeachment......

This, all by itself, is a reason above politics to not call new witnesses........

I say call witnesses. All witnesses. Biden, his coke head son, Bolton, BO, John Kerry, Hellary,all the Ukrainians involved, the principals from Burisma, and anybody else who has ever had a thing to do with this. Make it painful for everybody. Then they all will think twice before playing the game of 100% political impeachment.

Actually the only witnesses you need to hear from are those who know about this call and why Trump was withholding the money. Calling these other folks is nothing but smoke and mirrors.

spoken like a true partisan pussy. This impeachment, just like Clinton’s, is nothing more than a political attack. Biden and his son’s shenanigans in Ukraine are worse than Trumps. So I say burn them both.

The pussies are these weak ass Republicans who are afraid of Trump. It's morons like you who are trying to make this about Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden has nothing to do with this impeachment trial, you stinking ass Trump humpers are in control of the doj if you think he broke the law then started am investigation on it.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

Trump's excellent attorney's made this point......if the Senate votes to allow new witnesses......it will extend the proceedings for months...tying up the Senate during that time.

If this becomes the new standard....where the House can ship over impeachment without needing to call witnesses in the House....they will do this as a precedent......doing a quick impeachment, and then forcing the Senate to stop everything they do, to deal with witnesses the House should have called during the impeachment......

This, all by itself, is a reason above politics to not call new witnesses........

I say call witnesses. All witnesses. Biden, his coke head son, Bolton, BO, John Kerry, Hellary,all the Ukrainians involved, the principals from Burisma, and anybody else who has ever had a thing to do with this. Make it painful for everybody. Then they all will think twice before playing the game of 100% political impeachment.

Actually the only witnesses you need to hear from are those who know about this call and why Trump was withholding the money. Calling these other folks is nothing but smoke and mirrors.

spoken like a true partisan pussy. This impeachment, just like Clinton’s, is nothing more than a political attack. Biden and his son’s shenanigans in Ukraine are worse than Trumps. So I say burn them both.

The pussies are these weak ass Republicans who are afraid of Trump. It's morons like you who are trying to make this about Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden has nothing to do with this impeachment trial, you stinking ass Trump humpers are in control of the doj if you think he broke the law then started am investigation on it.

Hunter has nothing to do with the impeachment!?!? It was Hunter Biden getting millions of dollars from a Ukrainian company that caused Trump to ask Ukraine to investigate the Bidens. I am calling for heads to roll on both sides. You on the other hand, can’t even acknowledge basic facts if they upset your delicate snowflake narrative.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Trump's excellent attorney's made this point......if the Senate votes to allow new witnesses......it will extend the proceedings for months...tying up the Senate during that time.

If this becomes the new standard....where the House can ship over impeachment without needing to call witnesses in the House....they will do this as a precedent......doing a quick impeachment, and then forcing the Senate to stop everything they do, to deal with witnesses the House should have called during the impeachment......

This, all by itself, is a reason above politics to not call new witnesses........

I say call witnesses. All witnesses. Biden, his coke head son, Bolton, BO, John Kerry, Hellary,all the Ukrainians involved, the principals from Burisma, and anybody else who has ever had a thing to do with this. Make it painful for everybody. Then they all will think twice before playing the game of 100% political impeachment.

Actually the only witnesses you need to hear from are those who know about this call and why Trump was withholding the money. Calling these other folks is nothing but smoke and mirrors.

spoken like a true partisan pussy. This impeachment, just like Clinton’s, is nothing more than a political attack. Biden and his son’s shenanigans in Ukraine are worse than Trumps. So I say burn them both.

The pussies are these weak ass Republicans who are afraid of Trump. It's morons like you who are trying to make this about Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden has nothing to do with this impeachment trial, you stinking ass Trump humpers are in control of the doj if you think he broke the law then started am investigation on it.

Hunter has nothing to do with the impeachment!?!? It was Hunter Biden getting millions of dollars from a Ukrainian company that caused Trump to ask Ukraine to investigate the Bidens.

Actually it was just Trump trying to find dirt on Joe Biden. If Joe Biden wasn't running for president do you really think Trump would have gave a damn what kind of money Hunter Biden was making.

I am calling for heads to roll on both sides. You on the other hand, can’t even acknowledge basic facts if they upset your delicate snowflake narrative.

Hunter Biden has nothing to do with this impeachment trial of trump. Now if you want to open an investigation on Hunter Biden the Ukraine by all means have at it, this impeachment trial is about the actions of Donald Trump not Hunter Biden.

 

[WEATHER53]

We can’t make our case so you must make it for us because there is always someone out there who has what will sink Trump

What a dishonest way to present the situation. You don’t really expect people to buy that crap do you?

It’s exactly what is factually happening so no I dont expect the emotetards to buy it.

 

[WEATHER53]

One thing for sure about lack of impartiality. Every time Nadler or Shitts speaks, their language is full of vituperative personal hatred of Trump. Over and over and over they spittle out what They Feel Trumps motivation had to have been and what they feel about how Trump must have been thinking and what his motivations were. As always, no facts; just feelings.

 

[Claudette]

I do not believe the Senate should allow itself to be tied up for however long with new witnesses and documents that should have been included in the House Articles. IMHO, that's all they should consider, whatever the House inquiry uncovered or provided. Nothing else, the House impeached President Trump on that information alone and that is what the Senate should limit their trial on. There's nothing that says the House can't impeach Trump a 2nd time should they find new information or witnesses.

Frankly, this is a bullshit case that never would've seen the light of day in an ordinary court room. IMHO it should be flushed on Friday.

I agree. And from what I've read the Senate doesn't call witnesses at all. They go over what the House gave them.

This shit show should be over tomorrow and what a shit show it is.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Unless you come up with a recording, any witness testimony is hearsay.

That is not true.

Eye witness testimony is not hearsay.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Democrats withdrew their subpoenas, not me, so its Democrats that don't care about the truth.
Lets get this right.
You're actually saying the Senate Republicans should issue the same subpoenas that House Democrats withdrew?
Dont you realise how ridiculous that is?

No, he does not and more, he doesnt give a shit if it is.

These TDS Dim wack-jobs have such hatred for Trump they will say anything and everything if they think there is the slightest chance it will weaken Trump.