PoliticalChic
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Unless you study history you never really understand who/what you are voting for.
1. "More than 1,000 Socialist candidates were elected to public office in the first two decades of the 20th century. They included two members of Congress, dozens of state legislators, and more than 130 mayors."
2. E.V.Debs was the Socialist candidate, in 1912, and Debs received the largest share of the popular vote ever by a Socialist candidate, and had later been convicted of violating Wilson’s Espionage and Sedition Acts. The jury found Debs guilty. Debs said to the jury: “while there is a lower class, I am in it, while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and where there is a soul in prison, I am not free.”
Nick Salvatore, “Eugene V. Debs: Citizen and Socialist,” p. 295. Sentenced to ten years in prison.
He persuaded listeners that he was no doctrinaire Marxist, but one who understood the problems of working men and women in the new world of industrial capitalism. He had them envision a transcendent and fairer social order based on the brotherhood of man. Sound like Bernie?
3. "Socialists look at the world differently than even the most liberal Democrats. Whereas liberals see politics fundamentally as a left-to-right spectrum, a socialist’s starting point is looking at top versus bottom — i.e., workers versus bosses."
jacobin.com
4. The progressive left, and the liberal left, while not themselves communists, share many of the same sympathies, such of redistribution of wealth, and worker’s rights, nationalizations of industry, etc, but are not quite as far left as the communists, and would not go to the same lengths as the communists to achieve their goals. This does not mean, though, that the help of these dupes is not necessary in order for the communists to achieve victory. Even at their peak, in the ‘30’s, the Communist Party of the United States never had more than 100 thousand members: so deception of the ‘dupes’ was critical.
The archives tell a tale of plans and schemes between the CPUSA and the Communist International in Moscow, to dupe progressives and liberals: “go to rallies,” “don’t let them know you are a communist!,” “If anyone reveals that you are a communist, claim it is red-baiting,” “yell ‘McCarthyism!”Dr. Paul Kengor, Hoover Institution, Stanford “DUPES: How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century
5. The recent mandate for Trump was because the Democrat Party allowed their radical/Left/woke/socialist agenda become evident. Earlier, you saw how Hillary stole the nomination from Bernie because they old hands knew what a communist/socialist at the top of the ticket would do.
Now they've seen it happen......
Will they double down in '28, or look to become an American party again?
May I say it this way? America was designed to empower the individual over the collective. See the difference with socialism?
1. "More than 1,000 Socialist candidates were elected to public office in the first two decades of the 20th century. They included two members of Congress, dozens of state legislators, and more than 130 mayors."
Socialist Party Elected Officials 1901-1960 - Mapping American Social Movements Project
More than 1,000 Socialist candidates were elected to public office in the first two decades of the 20th century. They included two members of Congress, dozens of state legislators, and more than 130 mayors. These interactive maps identify 353 cities and towns that elected Socialist Party...
depts.washington.edu
2. E.V.Debs was the Socialist candidate, in 1912, and Debs received the largest share of the popular vote ever by a Socialist candidate, and had later been convicted of violating Wilson’s Espionage and Sedition Acts. The jury found Debs guilty. Debs said to the jury: “while there is a lower class, I am in it, while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and where there is a soul in prison, I am not free.”
Nick Salvatore, “Eugene V. Debs: Citizen and Socialist,” p. 295. Sentenced to ten years in prison.
He persuaded listeners that he was no doctrinaire Marxist, but one who understood the problems of working men and women in the new world of industrial capitalism. He had them envision a transcendent and fairer social order based on the brotherhood of man. Sound like Bernie?
3. "Socialists look at the world differently than even the most liberal Democrats. Whereas liberals see politics fundamentally as a left-to-right spectrum, a socialist’s starting point is looking at top versus bottom — i.e., workers versus bosses."
From Meyer London to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
Before there was Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, there was New York’s Socialist congressman Meyer London. His experience in Washington is full of lessons for us today.
jacobin.com
4. The progressive left, and the liberal left, while not themselves communists, share many of the same sympathies, such of redistribution of wealth, and worker’s rights, nationalizations of industry, etc, but are not quite as far left as the communists, and would not go to the same lengths as the communists to achieve their goals. This does not mean, though, that the help of these dupes is not necessary in order for the communists to achieve victory. Even at their peak, in the ‘30’s, the Communist Party of the United States never had more than 100 thousand members: so deception of the ‘dupes’ was critical.
The archives tell a tale of plans and schemes between the CPUSA and the Communist International in Moscow, to dupe progressives and liberals: “go to rallies,” “don’t let them know you are a communist!,” “If anyone reveals that you are a communist, claim it is red-baiting,” “yell ‘McCarthyism!”Dr. Paul Kengor, Hoover Institution, Stanford “DUPES: How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century
5. The recent mandate for Trump was because the Democrat Party allowed their radical/Left/woke/socialist agenda become evident. Earlier, you saw how Hillary stole the nomination from Bernie because they old hands knew what a communist/socialist at the top of the ticket would do.
Now they've seen it happen......
Will they double down in '28, or look to become an American party again?
May I say it this way? America was designed to empower the individual over the collective. See the difference with socialism?
