BDS Movement Not Too Bright For Palestinians

[docmauser1]

According to Ottoman statistics studied by Justin McCarthy,[24] the population of Palestine in the early 19th century was 350,000, in 1860 it was 411,000 and in 1900 about 600,000 of which 94% were Arabs. In 1914 Palestine had a population of 657,000 Muslim Arabs, 81,000 Christian Arabs, and 59,000 Jews.[25] McCarthy estimates the non-Jewish population of Palestine at 452,789 in 1882, 737,389 in 1914, 725,507 in 1922, 880,746 in 1931 and 1,339,763 in 1946.[26] ...

Shall we construe that as a starting point of, or as freeze-frame of the ongoing arab colonization of that geographic area?

 

[JoeB131]

Funny. It, sure does look like our honorable joeb131 is coming here whining about what is, as per claim, essentially not his collective problem.

It does become my problem when you Jews manipulate America into fighting wars on your behalf like you did in Lebanon and Iraq and tried to do in Syria and want to do in Iran.

 

[JoeB131]

Shall we construe that as a starting point of, or as freeze-frame of the ongoing arab colonization of that geographic area?

Uh, no.

We should consider that a refutation that Palestine was Jewish land, because it really wasn't until the Europeans started dumping their trash there.

 

[Hollie]

Shall we construe that as a starting point of, or as freeze-frame of the ongoing arab colonization of that geographic area?

Uh, no.

We should consider that a refutation that Palestine was Jewish land, because it really wasn't until the Europeans started dumping their trash there.

You should realize that you're viewed as just just another self-hating muhammedan with your pointless vitriol. Europeans never dumped the Jews in Israel. The movement of Jews to Israel was a combination of many many factors including Jews seeking a return to their ancestral lands, an escape from the continent where the first whispers of Nazi ideology (engendered by people like you) were circulating and to escape religious persecution.

Really Bunky, pounding your forehead on that prayer mat has had negative consequences.

 

[Phoenall]

A pity your souce is islamonazi propagands and has been banned from wiki

Wiki hasn't changed his data, and I'm sure you tried.

Next false argument?

Did I say that wiki had changed his data, or did I say that wiki had banned him for multiple screen names and aggressively editing wiki articles. Even when the evidence is produced that shows your source is questionable you still deny the facts

 

[Phoenall]

Thanks for exposing yet another fraud by one of the more excitable of the wiki cut and pasters.

Its a tactic of the spammers to cut and paste multiple paragraphs from wiki with a careless disregard for the truth.

The spammers should realized that they become accomplices to fraud and lies, not that they care.

Yawn, Wiki hasn't changed the data.

Fact is, there weren't a lot of Jews in Palestine until the Europeans started dumping them there. And even before WWII, not to many of them were keen to go.

But it has been edited by wiki members, and they have been caught so leading to bans being put in place. I am not a member of wiki and so cant edit any entries, but I can search wiki and find who the originator of an article is and who has edited it.

 

[Phoenall]

Thanks for exposing yet another fraud by one of the more excitable of the wiki cut and pasters.

Its a tactic of the spammers to cut and paste multiple paragraphs from wiki with a careless disregard for the truth.

The spammers should realized that they become accomplices to fraud and lies, not that they care.

Yawn, Wiki hasn't changed the data.

Fact is, there weren't a lot of Jews in Palestine until the Europeans started dumping them there. And even before WWII, not to many of them were keen to go.

Enough of them for them to be the majority in two Ottoman census's which shows your claims to be false, and here are the results from a source biased against the Jews



CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA Jerusalem After 1291
"...Present condition of the City: (1907 edition)

Jerusalem (El Quds) is the capital of a sanjak and the seat of a mutasarrif directly dependent on the Sublime Porte. In the administration of the sanjak the mutasarrif is assisted by a council called majlis ida ra; the city has a municipal government (majlis baladiye) presided over by a mayor. The total population is estimated at 66,000. The Turkish census of 1905, which counts only Ottoman subjects, gives these figures:
Jews, 45,000; Moslems, 8,000; Orthodox Christians, 6000; Latins, 2500; Armenians, 950; Protestants, 800; Melkites, 250; Copts, 150; Abyssinians, 100; Jacobites, 100; Catholic Syrians, 50. During the Nineteenth century large suburbs to the north and east have grown up, chiefly for the use of the Jewish colony. These suburbs contain nearly Half the present population...""

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Growth of Jerusalem 1838-Present

....... Jews Muslims Christians Total
1838 6,000 5,000 3,000 14,000
1844 7,120 5,760 3,390 16,270 ..... ..The First Official Ottoman Census
1876 12,000 7,560 5,470 25,030 .... .....Second """"""""""
1905 40,000 8,000 10,900 58,900 ....... Third/last, detailed in CathEncyc above
1948 99,320 36,680 31,300 167,300
1990 353,200 124,200 14,000 491,400
1992 385,000 150,000 15,000 550,000

http://www.testimony-magazine.org/jerusalem/bring.htm




This is for the Sanjak of Jerusalem which takes in most of Palestine including part of Jordan. Care to produce different Ottoman census results ?

 

[Phoenall]

Shall we construe that as a starting point of, or as freeze-frame of the ongoing arab colonization of that geographic area?

Uh, no.

We should consider that a refutation that Palestine was Jewish land, because it really wasn't until the Europeans started dumping their trash there.

It was never arab muslim either until they started to dump their trash there. Up until 1917 it was Ottoman land, then it was transferred to the LoN who carved it up and gave it to Saudi princes and the Jews. At no time was it arab muslim as they refused to settle and make the land fertile.

 

[Phoenall]

Funny. It, sure does look like our honorable joeb131 is coming here whining about what is, as per claim, essentially not his collective problem.

It does become my problem when you Jews manipulate America into fighting wars on your behalf like you did in Lebanon and Iraq and tried to do in Syria and want to do in Iran.

Well if you really bothered to look at the facts you would see that Israel told the USA that Iraq was not the problem and not to invade. But the Oil barons decided to ignore the truth and forced the US into a war they could never finish.

 

[JoeB131]

You should realize that you're viewed as just just another self-hating muhammedan with your pointless vitriol. Europeans never dumped the Jews in Israel. The movement of Jews to Israel was a combination of many many factors including Jews seeking a return to their ancestral lands, an escape from the continent where the first whispers of Nazi ideology (engendered by people like you) were circulating and to escape religious persecution.

Really Bunky, pounding your forehead on that prayer mat has had negative consequences.

I think you are confused. I'm an atheist.

Point was, Zionism was a movement started by Europeans to get rid of their Jewish populations. The thing was, they had an easier time selling Palestine than Uganda or Siberia or Madagascar where they wanted to send them. (All of which were proposed as Jewish homelands when the Ottomans controlled Palestine.)

 

[JoeB131]

Well if you really bothered to look at the facts you would see that Israel told the USA that Iraq was not the problem and not to invade. But the Oil barons decided to ignore the truth and forced the US into a war they could never finish.

Really, so when Bibi testified in front of Congress and urged the US to invade Iraq, we just imagined that.

 

[JoeB131]

But it has been edited by wiki members, and they have been caught so leading to bans being put in place. I am not a member of wiki and so cant edit any entries, but I can search wiki and find who the originator of an article is and who has edited it.

so become a member and try to stick your Jewish LIes into it, and see how long that lasts.

 

[Phoenall]

You should realize that you're viewed as just just another self-hating muhammedan with your pointless vitriol. Europeans never dumped the Jews in Israel. The movement of Jews to Israel was a combination of many many factors including Jews seeking a return to their ancestral lands, an escape from the continent where the first whispers of Nazi ideology (engendered by people like you) were circulating and to escape religious persecution.

Really Bunky, pounding your forehead on that prayer mat has had negative consequences.

I think you are confused. I'm an atheist.

Point was, Zionism was a movement started by Europeans to get rid of their Jewish populations. The thing was, they had an easier time selling Palestine than Uganda or Siberia or Madagascar where they wanted to send them. (All of which were proposed as Jewish homelands when the Ottomans controlled Palestine.)

WRONG again as Zionism was a word appended to the Jews greatest wish, to live as free people in their old ancestral homeland. The Europeans tried to wipe out all the Jews because of the religious persecution around at the time
Jordan was the homeland for the arab muslims, so why didn't they all move there in 1923

The thing is in the 1930's you were saying why don't the filthy Jews go and live in palestine , now you are saying why don't the filthy Jews go and live in russia

 

[Phoenall]

Well if you really bothered to look at the facts you would see that Israel told the USA that Iraq was not the problem and not to invade. But the Oil barons decided to ignore the truth and forced the US into a war they could never finish.

Really, so when Bibi testified in front of Congress and urged the US to invade Iraq, we just imagined that.

A pity that Iraq had been invaded by America in 1990 wasn't it. And the attacks later were because they would not allow UN inspectors in to verify there were no WMD's or illegal labs.

Or did you forget about Gulf War 1

 

[Phoenall]

But it has been edited by wiki members, and they have been caught so leading to bans being put in place. I am not a member of wiki and so cant edit any entries, but I can search wiki and find who the originator of an article is and who has edited it.

so become a member and try to stick your Jewish LIes into it, and see how long that lasts.

Cant you read, I AM NOT JEWISH AND YOU ARE AN IDIOT FOR SAYING I AM

 

[JoeB131]

A pity that Iraq had been invaded by America in 1990 wasn't it. And the attacks later were because they would not allow UN inspectors in to verify there were no WMD's or illegal labs.

Or did you forget about Gulf War 1

I was in Gulf War I. But besides that, we didn't invade Iraq or try to change their regime. Because that would have been a really stupid idea.

But even though Iraq had been effectively crippled by Gulf War I, there was Bibi feeding us bullshit intelligence about weapons that weren't there because Saddam was paying the Palestinians.

 

[docmauser1]

Shall we construe that as a starting point of, or as freeze-frame of the ongoing arab colonization of that geographic area?

Uh, no. We should consider that a refutation that Palestine was Jewish land, because it really wasn't until the Europeans started dumping their trash there.

But more precisely we should consider that degrees in history are a dime a dozen these days, of course.

 

[docmauser1]

I was in Gulf War I.

The starship enterprise, more likely, but who the effing gives.

But besides that, we didn't invade Iraq or try to change their regime. Because that would have been a really stupid idea.

Lybia, Afghanistan, Egypt, etc., lots of stupid ideas, indeed.

But even though Iraq had been effectively crippled by Gulf War I, there was Bibi feeding us bullshit intelligence about weapons that weren't there because Saddam was paying the Palestinians.

Bullish.

 

[docmauser1]

Funny. It, sure does look like our honorable joeb131 is coming here whining about what is, as per claim, essentially not his collective problem.

It does become my problem when you Jews manipulate America into fighting wars on your behalf like you did in Lebanon and Iraq and tried to do in Syria and want to do in Iran.

Stop whining, driveling, blaming US imperial ambitions on Israel, looking for jews everywhere and get a life.

 

[MJB12741]

Getting back to the OP subject, I truly feel sorry for those Palestinian victims of the BDS movement who lost their jobs in Israel & have to now find some other way for them & their families to survive.