Backing Away From Russia, Trump Says Ukraine Should Win Back Its Aand and NATO Allies Should Shoot Down Incursions

[0311]

NEW YORK CITY — President Donald Trump said Tuesday that NATO allies should shoot down Russian aircraft encroaching on their airspace, and walked back earlier support for Russia to keep the Ukrainian territory it has won.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/23/trump-nato-shoot-down-russia-00576909

“I think Ukraine, with the support of the European Union, is in a position to fight and WIN all of Ukraine back in its original form,” he wrote on social media shortly after meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly.

For months as he tried to coax Russian President Vladimir Putin into peace talks, Trump indicated Ukraine needed to be realistic about its long term prospects and military disadvantage, suggesting it would have to give up the land it had already lost in order to end the war.

It appears Putin has fallen out of favor with Trump. Whatever President Zelensky said must have sunk in.

 

[yidnar]

NEW YORK CITY — President Donald Trump said Tuesday that NATO allies should shoot down Russian aircraft encroaching on their airspace, and walked back earlier support for Russia to keep the Ukrainian territory it has won.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/23/trump-nato-shoot-down-russia-00576909

“I think Ukraine, with the support of the European Union, is in a position to fight and WIN all of Ukraine back in its original form,” he wrote on social media shortly after meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly.

For months as he tried to coax Russian President Vladimir Putin into peace talks, Trump indicated Ukraine needed to be realistic about its long term prospects and military disadvantage, suggesting it would have to give up the land it had already lost in order to end the war.

It appears Putin has fallen out of favor with Trump. Whatever President Zelensky said must have sunk in.

so much for the lefts claim that Trump is Putins puppet ..

 

[1srelluc]

In other words let the Ukes/Russians fight it out.....While letting the EU pay for it.

Meh, sounds like a plan.

 

[ekrem]

"....with the support of the European Union"

 

[ekrem]

In Germany you'll never see soldiers in public life.
The only place you'll see soldiers is train stations travelling from barracks into private-life, with soldiers keeping low-profile, almost having I'm sorry dog-eyes after having done something bad.
These transgender, kumbaya societies are not ready for today's challenges.

 

[georgephillip]

NEW YORK CITY — President Donald Trump said Tuesday that NATO allies should shoot down Russian aircraft encroaching on their airspace, and walked back earlier support for Russia to keep the Ukrainian territory it has won.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/23/trump-nato-shoot-down-russia-00576909

“I think Ukraine, with the support of the European Union, is in a position to fight and WIN all of Ukraine back in its original form,” he wrote on social media shortly after meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly.

For months as he tried to coax Russian President Vladimir Putin into peace talks, Trump indicated Ukraine needed to be realistic about its long term prospects and military disadvantage, suggesting it would have to give up the land it had already lost in order to end the war.

It appears Putin has fallen out of favor with Trump. Whatever President Zelensky said must have sunk in.

Some European leaders seem to think a buffer zone inside Ukraine is the next logical step?

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/28/europe-buffer-zone-ukraine-russia-peace-deal-00534483

"European leaders are weighing the creation of a 40 kilometer buffer zone between the Russian and Ukrainian frontlines as part of a peace deal, a last-ditch idea Moscow has embraced that would likely stretch the continent’s modest number of peacekeeping troops.

"The proposal, according to five European diplomats, is among several that military and civilian officials are considering for either a postwar or ceasefire scenario in Ukraine

"Officials disagree how deep the actual zone could be and it’s unclear Kyiv would accept the plan as it would likely come with territorial concessions.

"The U.S. does not appear to be involved in the buffer zone discussion."

 

[JWBooth]

In other words let the Ukes/Russians fight it out.....While letting the EU pay for it.

Meh, sounds like a plan.

So long as they aren’t picking our pockets for this nonsense.

 

[Concerned American]

Some European leaders seem to think a buffer zone inside Ukraine is the next logical step?

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/28/europe-buffer-zone-ukraine-russia-peace-deal-00534483

"European leaders are weighing the creation of a 40 kilometer buffer zone between the Russian and Ukrainian frontlines as part of a peace deal, a last-ditch idea Moscow has embraced that would likely stretch the continent’s modest number of peacekeeping troops.

"The proposal, according to five European diplomats, is among several that military and civilian officials are considering for either a postwar or ceasefire scenario in Ukraine

"Officials disagree how deep the actual zone could be and it’s unclear Kyiv would accept the plan as it would likely come with territorial concessions.

"The U.S. does not appear to be involved in the buffer zone discussion."

Why would the buffer zone be in Ukrainian territory. They were not the aggressors. Put a 40 mile perimeter entirely around Russia on their own territory funded and enforced by EU/UN.

 

[JWBooth]

Why would the buffer zone be in Ukrainian territory. They were not the aggressors. Put a 40 mile perimeter entirely around Russia on their own territory funded and enforced by EU/UN.

That is absurd enough to have come from neocon central command.

 

[Concerned American]

That is absurd enough to have come from neocon central command.

LOL, absurd post to an absurd thread.

 

[Zincwarrior]

NEW YORK CITY — President Donald Trump said Tuesday that NATO allies should shoot down Russian aircraft encroaching on their airspace, and walked back earlier support for Russia to keep the Ukrainian territory it has won.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/23/trump-nato-shoot-down-russia-00576909

“I think Ukraine, with the support of the European Union, is in a position to fight and WIN all of Ukraine back in its original form,” he wrote on social media shortly after meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly.

For months as he tried to coax Russian President Vladimir Putin into peace talks, Trump indicated Ukraine needed to be realistic about its long term prospects and military disadvantage, suggesting it would have to give up the land it had already lost in order to end the war.

It appears Putin has fallen out of favor with Trump. Whatever President Zelensky said must have sunk in.

This will change tonight.

 

[ekrem]

The EU-leader shooting down anytimg Russian airborne has not yet come out of his mother's womb !!!!

 

[ekrem]

EU will shoot lots of empty words instead

 

[Zincwarrior]

EU will shoot lots of empty words instead

Poland will kill you Russians.

 

[frigidweirdo]

NEW YORK CITY — President Donald Trump said Tuesday that NATO allies should shoot down Russian aircraft encroaching on their airspace, and walked back earlier support for Russia to keep the Ukrainian territory it has won.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/23/trump-nato-shoot-down-russia-00576909

“I think Ukraine, with the support of the European Union, is in a position to fight and WIN all of Ukraine back in its original form,” he wrote on social media shortly after meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly.

For months as he tried to coax Russian President Vladimir Putin into peace talks, Trump indicated Ukraine needed to be realistic about its long term prospects and military disadvantage, suggesting it would have to give up the land it had already lost in order to end the war.

It appears Putin has fallen out of favor with Trump. Whatever President Zelensky said must have sunk in.

So, he's talking about it, but after being given the run around by Putin for eight months, has decided to do nothing.

 

[frigidweirdo]

In Germany you'll never see soldiers in public life.
The only place you'll see soldiers is train stations travelling from barracks into private-life, with soldiers keeping low-profile, almost having I'm sorry dog-eyes after having done something bad.
These transgender, kumbaya societies are not ready for today's challenges.

Well, the countries that promote soldiers are the countries most likely to be total assholes, China, Russia and the US.

 

[gtopa1]

NEW YORK CITY — President Donald Trump said Tuesday that NATO allies should shoot down Russian aircraft encroaching on their airspace, and walked back earlier support for Russia to keep the Ukrainian territory it has won.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/23/trump-nato-shoot-down-russia-00576909

“I think Ukraine, with the support of the European Union, is in a position to fight and WIN all of Ukraine back in its original form,” he wrote on social media shortly after meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly.

For months as he tried to coax Russian President Vladimir Putin into peace talks, Trump indicated Ukraine needed to be realistic about its long term prospects and military disadvantage, suggesting it would have to give up the land it had already lost in order to end the war.

It appears Putin has fallen out of favor with Trump. Whatever President Zelensky said must have sunk in.

"We Tolerate No One In Our Ranks Who Attacks The Idea's of Christianity. Our Movement Is Christian." - Adolph Hitler October 27, 1938.

From Snopes:

Context
It's true that Hitler said this in 1928. The original quote was slightly longer than what has appeared in memes. At the same time, history showed that Hitler's National Socialist Movement later sought to destroy Christianity once in power. Citing evidence from the Nuremberg war-crime trials, The New York Times reported that, "the Nazis simply lied and made deals with the churches while planning a 'slow and cautious policy of gradual encroachment' to eliminate Christianity."

In short the lying ASSHOLE said ANYTHING to get in POWER; Dems do the same,!!

Greg

 

[gtopa1]

In other words let the Ukes/Russians fight it out.....While letting the EU pay for it.

Meh, sounds like a plan.

It may be the only thing that gets rid of the Russian threat.

Greg

 

[0311]

This will change tonight.

TACO.....TACO.....TACO.....TACO.....TACO......TACO!

 

[Muhammed]

Why would the buffer zone be in Ukrainian territory. They were not the aggressors.

What are you calling "Ukrainian territory"? Are you counting the Oblasts that seceded from Ukraine in 2014 after the coup?