Astro's Cheating

DGS49

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Everything you need to know about the Astros cheating scandal

As a person who pitched as a Yoot, the practice of stealing signals strikes me as the most despicable form of cheating in baseball. As the average velocity of MLB pitchers slowly ramps up, the foreknowledge of whether the next pitch will be a fastball or something off-speed becomes more and more valuable. In either case - FB or off-speed - the batter's chances of success are increased by at least half with this knowledge.

It appears very likely that the Astro's have been cheating regularly for a couple of years now, and as far as I'm concerned that places a cloud on all of their success (except for that of the pitchers) since 2017. These "timely" blasts that have propelled them to dozens of wins are now all of dubious distinction.

The Media and many BB fans cried mightily when it first became apparent some years ago that some of the sluggers were juiced with steroids and HGH, but even with increased muscularity, you still have to hit the ball. As far as I'm concerned, stealing signs is a much worse offense to the integrity of the game.

As I understand it, the Powers that Be in MLB have no problem if you steal signs in the conventional way - a runner on second catches something and tips off the batter - but the use of technology takes it over the line of acceptability. I guess I can live with that. The defensive team is aware of that possibility of conventional sign stealing, and can take countermeasures.

Maybe the solution is to call pitching signs using up-to-date technology...have the pitching coach call the pitch and give the pitcher and catcher sensors in their BB caps to receive the signals.

But regardless, stealing signs like the Astro's have been doing is unacceptable. Not sure what the appropriate sanction would be.
 
Why is it cheating to try to figure out the strategy of the opposing team?
 
I agree

A pitcher/catcher knows to change signs with a man on second
But the Astros “banging” to tell a hitter when a fastball is on the way is outright cheating and is affirmed by management
 
Why is it cheating to try to figure out the strategy of the opposing team?

Because it is being done by people who are not in the game and is not equally available to both teams
 
Why is it cheating to try to figure out the strategy of the opposing team?

Because it is being done by people who are not in the game and is not equally available to both teams
Of course it is

Teams have always sent scouts to watch the games of their opponents so as to formulate their own strategies

If a team's manager is stupid enough not to change the signs that's his own fault

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Why is it cheating to try to figure out the strategy of the opposing team?

Because it is being done by people who are not in the game and is not equally available to both teams
Of course it is

Teams have always sent scouts to watch the games of their opponents so as to formulate their own strategies

If a team's manager is stupid enough not to change the signs that's his own fault

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
Bang, Bang, Bang
 
If the rules don't say you can't then obviously you can- there are people who make money from reading rules, breaking rules and writing rules- rule writers have yet to gain the upper hand.
 
Why is it cheating to try to figure out the strategy of the opposing team?

Because it is being done by people who are not in the game and is not equally available to both teams
Of course it is

Teams have always sent scouts to watch the games of their opponents so as to formulate their own strategies

If a team's manager is stupid enough not to change the signs that's his own fault

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
Bang, Bang, Bang
Yes 3 bullseyes

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
 
Why is it cheating to try to figure out the strategy of the opposing team?

Because it is being done by people who are not in the game and is not equally available to both teams
Of course it is

Teams have always sent scouts to watch the games of their opponents so as to formulate their own strategies

If a team's manager is stupid enough not to change the signs that's his own fault

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
Bang, Bang, Bang
Yes 3 bullseyes

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

Fastball coming!
Fastball coming!
 

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