Assholes making trouble in Oregon

[Skylar]

The wing nut constitutional colostomistas are still stealing stuff in Oregon............

What did they steal, TyronesSlurpsCum?

they have stolen files information computers they are tearing down fences they are taking heavy equipment and using it to tear up fences ....oh yeah ...they have closed down schools for a week....they have stolen the domestic tranquility of the community

Good. And..oh yeah...
the community is fine with them.

Says who? Remember, you're just making shit up.

 

[Uncensored2008]

they have stolen files information computers they are tearing down fences they are taking heavy equipment and using it to tear up fences ....oh yeah ...they have closed down schools for a week....they have stolen the domestic tranquility of the community

They've stolen computers and heavy equipment?



Like most Communists, you just make shit up.

 

[koshergrl]

they have stolen files information computers they are tearing down fences they are taking heavy equipment and using it to tear up fences ....oh yeah ...they have closed down schools for a week....they have stolen the domestic tranquility of the community

They've stolen computers and heavy equipment?



Like most Communists, you just make shit up.

They haven't stolen shit, lol. Progressives think that government "property" are holy relics lol.

 

[jc456]

Anybody else notice the typical double standard employed by the progressives.

Remember this?




What did you hear from progressives then?





Progressives hate public demonstrations if its not their people doing the demonstrating.




ghey

Image of a peaceful Ferguson protest. LOL

Doing this to their own local folks. too funny.

If caught, were those who broke those windows arrested? Or are their unlawful acts being allowed to continue?

no one has been arrested that I'm aware of. enlighten me though if you know they have. Funny how that didn't make the news.

 

[Skylar]

they have stolen files information computers they are tearing down fences they are taking heavy equipment and using it to tear up fences ....oh yeah ...they have closed down schools for a week....they have stolen the domestic tranquility of the community

They've stolen computers and heavy equipment?



Like most Communists, you just make shit up.

He's actually mostly accurate:

The militants removed barbed wire – Bundy with only his bare hands – and then used an excavator adorned with the Fish and Wildlife Service's logo to pluck stakes out of the ground. The group included Bundy's brother Ryan, Jon Ritzheimer, Ryan Payne, Blaine Cooper, Jason Patrick and Robert "LaVoy" Finicum.

"That's all that's needed for cows to go through," Finicum announced after the work was done. The militants removed about 25 or 30 yards of fence.

Oregon standoff: Bundy, militants destroy fence at federal refuge

As for the 'files on computers', he got the file part right.

The leader of a small, armed group occupying a national wildlife refuge in southeastern Oregon said Monday he and his followers are going through government documents stored inside refuge buildings.

Leader of armed group says he, his followers are going through government files to show discrimination against ranchers - 1/11/2016 6:29:39 PM | Newser

The only part that isn't confirmed is the militia going through computers. They're definitely going through the files.

 

[koshergrl]

In Josephine County:
a pattern of BLM willfully destroying property and records:

 

[jc456]

Teen chokes up at town meeting asking Bundy to leave: ‘I shouldn’t have to be scared in my own hometown’

ABC News site:

Are you really too stupid to realize that your attempts to deflect away from the topic at hand simply show you do not have the intelligence, skill or factual data to defend your cause and the criminal behavior of the Bundy's and his militia, supporters and cohorts? If you were able to defend your position you would not have to divert to the nonsense your are deflecting to.

that material was presented yesterday and to date no one can give an answer as to the law they are violating. Can they carry their weapons there?
Are they threatening anyone? No
All this thread is is about a bunch of jealous lots who feel offended they don't have the balls to do what these guys are doing. And I merely pointed out that gangs in most cities already do exactly what these folks are doing and you have no issue about them. So what difference is to you since you don't live there and you have no skin in it?

Your question about what the criminals will be charged with has been addressed. The FBI and other law enforcement are refusing to divulge the information on the criminals terms. They have told the local authorities that arrest are going to be made. They are obviously committing trespassing. The are is marked with signage declaring the property closed and the area they occupy as not to be public access. Only a dope like you and your ilk would find a way to justify breaking into locked buildings and using private property like heavy equipment and trucks without specific permission by the owners, the owners being those listed on titles and registrations. Destruction of property is vandalism. Destruction of federal property is a felony. Only a dope like you can not figure out some of the obvious charges the assholes are facing.
They are threatening the managers and employees of the owners of the property as well law enforcement authorities than would attempt to remove or arrest them.

I know, and makes no sense now does it.

Do you know that they broke in?

 

[koshergrl]

Teen chokes up at town meeting asking Bundy to leave: ‘I shouldn’t have to be scared in my own hometown’

ABC News site:

Are you really too stupid to realize that your attempts to deflect away from the topic at hand simply show you do not have the intelligence, skill or factual data to defend your cause and the criminal behavior of the Bundy's and his militia, supporters and cohorts? If you were able to defend your position you would not have to divert to the nonsense your are deflecting to.

that material was presented yesterday and to date no one can give an answer as to the law they are violating. Can they carry their weapons there?
Are they threatening anyone? No
All this thread is is about a bunch of jealous lots who feel offended they don't have the balls to do what these guys are doing. And I merely pointed out that gangs in most cities already do exactly what these folks are doing and you have no issue about them. So what difference is to you since you don't live there and you have no skin in it?

Your question about what the criminals will be charged with has been addressed. The FBI and other law enforcement are refusing to divulge the information on the criminals terms. They have told the local authorities that arrest are going to be made. They are obviously committing trespassing. The are is marked with signage declaring the property closed and the area they occupy as not to be public access. Only a dope like you and your ilk would find a way to justify breaking into locked buildings and using private property like heavy equipment and trucks without specific permission by the owners, the owners being those listed on titles and registrations. Destruction of property is vandalism. Destruction of federal property is a felony. Only a dope like you can not figure out some of the obvious charges the assholes are facing.
They are threatening the managers and employees of the owners of the property as well law enforcement authorities than would attempt to remove or arrest them.

Psst...it's not private property.

Only a dope like you doesn't understand that.

They also haven't threatened any managers or employees.

Feds can't own any land outside of dc, aside from forts and ports. The so-called wildlife refuge is neither. The people own it.

 

[Skylar]

Feds can't own any land outside of dc, aside from forts and ports. The so-called wildlife refuge is neither. The people own it.

They aren't 'the people'. And yes, the feds can own land outside DC.

The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.

Article 4, Section 3

With the USSC unanimously affirming the same.

This is just more sovereign citizen horseshit by folks who neither understand the constitution nor this country.

 

[jc456]

Feds can't own any land outside of dc, aside from forts and ports. The so-called wildlife refuge is neither. The people own it.

They aren't 'the people'. And yes, the feds can own land outside DC. The USSC has affirmed it unanimously.

This is just more sovereign citizen horseshit by folks who neither understand the constitution nor this country.

why aren't they the people, they live there, they use it, how is it not them that are the people? holy crap batman.

 

[Skylar]

Feds can't own any land outside of dc, aside from forts and ports. The so-called wildlife refuge is neither. The people own it.

They aren't 'the people'. And yes, the feds can own land outside DC. The USSC has affirmed it unanimously.

This is just more sovereign citizen horseshit by folks who neither understand the constitution nor this country.

why aren't they the people, they live there, they use it, how is it not them that are the people? holy crap batman.

They don't live there. Ammon Bundy is from Arizona. Which, if you check a map, isn't Oregon.

And we didn't elect them to enact any policy. They aren't 'the people'. They're just some guys asking for snacks.

The constitution unambiguously empowers Congress to set the rules over Federal property. Not Ammon Bundy.

 

[bodecea]

The kids and children are being used as shields by virtue of the fact they are there. When armed men threaten to use their weapons to prevent arrest and or removal they are inviting a gunfight. Injecting children into that situation can only be viewed as using the children as shields. i.e., objects to prevent offensive action against those threatened with arrest and removal. You are not that good a bullshitter, nor are the criminals at the refuge.

Camp, I assume that as a leftist you are an anti-Semite.

Here is what the dear friends and allies of the democrats do, on a regular basis

Got an photographs of Bundy et al doing this shit?


Of course not, lies, half-truths, and innuendo are the tools of the party.

Another imaginary position made up by Uncensored so he can attack it. Same as tilting at windmills. A regular Don Quixote is our Uncensored.

 

[Skylar]

The kids and children are being used as shields by virtue of the fact they are there. When armed men threaten to use their weapons to prevent arrest and or removal they are inviting a gunfight. Injecting children into that situation can only be viewed as using the children as shields. i.e., objects to prevent offensive action against those threatened with arrest and removal. You are not that good a bullshitter, nor are the criminals at the refuge.

Camp, I assume that as a leftist you are an anti-Semite.

Here is what the dear friends and allies of the democrats do, on a regular basis

Got an photographs of Bundy et al doing this shit?


Of course not, lies, half-truths, and innuendo are the tools of the party.

Another imaginary position made up by Uncensored so he can attack it.

If not the for the strawman fallacy, Uncen's posts would be little more than punctuation.

 

[jc456]

Feds can't own any land outside of dc, aside from forts and ports. The so-called wildlife refuge is neither. The people own it.

They aren't 'the people'. And yes, the feds can own land outside DC. The USSC has affirmed it unanimously.

This is just more sovereign citizen horseshit by folks who neither understand the constitution nor this country.

why aren't they the people, they live there, they use it, how is it not them that are the people? holy crap batman.

They don't live there. Ammon Bundy is from Arizona. Which, if you check a map, isn't Oregon.

And we didn't elect them to enact any policy. They aren't 'the people'. They're just some guys asking for snacks.

The constitution unambiguously empowers Congress to set the rules over Federal property. Not Ammon Bundy.

It doesn't matter if he lives there or not, he is still a US citizen correct? hmm last I looked Arizona is in the US. He is still the people.

 

[jc456]

To be real terrorists they will have to start hanging the enemy.

So the 9-11 hijackers don't count?

I believe that what you meant to say was that in order to be terrorism they have to be brown skinned with funny sounding names, amiright?

In all seriousness, terrorists who don't actually hurt anyone aren't terrorists no matter what color they are. Unless there are bodies and blood, they aren't exactly terrifying.

I thought you were a dog groomer? What exactly makes you an expert on this???

As to the OP, the occupiers need to be made an example of

I thought you were a libturd? Oh, you are! what qualifies you?

 

[Skylar]

Feds can't own any land outside of dc, aside from forts and ports. The so-called wildlife refuge is neither. The people own it.

They aren't 'the people'. And yes, the feds can own land outside DC. The USSC has affirmed it unanimously.

This is just more sovereign citizen horseshit by folks who neither understand the constitution nor this country.

why aren't they the people, they live there, they use it, how is it not them that are the people? holy crap batman.

They don't live there. Ammon Bundy is from Arizona. Which, if you check a map, isn't Oregon.

And we didn't elect them to enact any policy. They aren't 'the people'. They're just some guys asking for snacks.

The constitution unambiguously empowers Congress to set the rules over Federal property. Not Ammon Bundy.

It doesn't matter if he lives there or not, he is still a US citizen correct? hmm last I looked Arizona is in the US. He is still the people.

Nope. He's a person. The authority to set rules for Federal property is granted to congress by the Constitution. Not to Ammon Bundy.

You're spouting Sovereign Citizen horseshit. And no, any chump doesn't have total authority over all federal land.

 

[Camp]

Teen chokes up at town meeting asking Bundy to leave: ‘I shouldn’t have to be scared in my own hometown’

ABC News site:

Are you really too stupid to realize that your attempts to deflect away from the topic at hand simply show you do not have the intelligence, skill or factual data to defend your cause and the criminal behavior of the Bundy's and his militia, supporters and cohorts? If you were able to defend your position you would not have to divert to the nonsense your are deflecting to.

that material was presented yesterday and to date no one can give an answer as to the law they are violating. Can they carry their weapons there?
Are they threatening anyone? No
All this thread is is about a bunch of jealous lots who feel offended they don't have the balls to do what these guys are doing. And I merely pointed out that gangs in most cities already do exactly what these folks are doing and you have no issue about them. So what difference is to you since you don't live there and you have no skin in it?

Your question about what the criminals will be charged with has been addressed. The FBI and other law enforcement are refusing to divulge the information on the criminals terms. They have told the local authorities that arrest are going to be made. They are obviously committing trespassing. The are is marked with signage declaring the property closed and the area they occupy as not to be public access. Only a dope like you and your ilk would find a way to justify breaking into locked buildings and using private property like heavy equipment and trucks without specific permission by the owners, the owners being those listed on titles and registrations. Destruction of property is vandalism. Destruction of federal property is a felony. Only a dope like you can not figure out some of the obvious charges the assholes are facing.
They are threatening the managers and employees of the owners of the property as well law enforcement authorities than would attempt to remove or arrest them.

Psst...it's not private property.

Only a dope like you doesn't understand that.

They also haven't threatened any managers or employees.

Feds can't own any land outside of dc, aside from forts and ports. The so-called wildlife refuge is neither. The people own it.

First, it has the legal standing of private property as the "private" technical owner as specified in The National Wildlife System Administration passed by Congress in 1966. Before that is was the property of the Department of Interior.

Only a dope like you doesn't understand that.

They have threatened managers and employees by being armed and announcing they will not leave the property without an altercation, by ignoring posted signs while armed and acting in a military posture.

The constitutional interpretation that is currently in force for government ownership of lands is Article lV Section 3 Claus 2.
Despite arguments and debated to the contrary, unless or until the debate comes to the SCOTUS for judgement, that Article, section and clause is the Constitutional ruling and confirmation of who owns public lands and right for the US Government to own such land. Despite amateur self-proclaimed Constitutional experts, the SCOTUS makes the decision and they have decided that the government has a constitutional right to own the lands they claim to own.

 

[Skylar]

ABC News site:

Are you really too stupid to realize that your attempts to deflect away from the topic at hand simply show you do not have the intelligence, skill or factual data to defend your cause and the criminal behavior of the Bundy's and his militia, supporters and cohorts? If you were able to defend your position you would not have to divert to the nonsense your are deflecting to.

that material was presented yesterday and to date no one can give an answer as to the law they are violating. Can they carry their weapons there?
Are they threatening anyone? No
All this thread is is about a bunch of jealous lots who feel offended they don't have the balls to do what these guys are doing. And I merely pointed out that gangs in most cities already do exactly what these folks are doing and you have no issue about them. So what difference is to you since you don't live there and you have no skin in it?

Your question about what the criminals will be charged with has been addressed. The FBI and other law enforcement are refusing to divulge the information on the criminals terms. They have told the local authorities that arrest are going to be made. They are obviously committing trespassing. The are is marked with signage declaring the property closed and the area they occupy as not to be public access. Only a dope like you and your ilk would find a way to justify breaking into locked buildings and using private property like heavy equipment and trucks without specific permission by the owners, the owners being those listed on titles and registrations. Destruction of property is vandalism. Destruction of federal property is a felony. Only a dope like you can not figure out some of the obvious charges the assholes are facing.
They are threatening the managers and employees of the owners of the property as well law enforcement authorities than would attempt to remove or arrest them.

Psst...it's not private property.

Only a dope like you doesn't understand that.

They also haven't threatened any managers or employees.

Feds can't own any land outside of dc, aside from forts and ports. The so-called wildlife refuge is neither. The people own it.

First, it has the legal standing of private property as the "private" technical owner as specified in The National Wildlife System Administration passed by Congress in 1966.

Only a dope like you doesn't understand that.

They have threatened managers and employees by being armed and announcing they will not leave the property without an altercation, by ignoring posted signs while armed and acting in a military posture.

The constitutional interpretation that is currently in force for government ownership of lands is Article lV Section 3 Claus 2.
Despite arguments and debated to the contrary, unless or until the debate comes to the SCOTUS for judgement, that Article, section and clause is the Constitutional ruling and confirmation of who owns public lands and right for the US Government to own such land. Despite amateur self-proclaimed Constitutional experts, the SCOTUS makes the decision and they have decided that the government has a constitutional right to own the lands they claim to own.

The Supreme Court already ruled in 1976. Kleppe v. New Mexico

This is long established precedent based on rock solid language of the constitution. Ammon and his ilk are offering a sovereign citizen argument where they get to decide unilaterally what the constitution is supposed to mean. And they get to enact their own policy and rules.

Nope.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Another imaginary LW position posted by Uncensored.

Imaginary..

Does it hurt to be that stupid? Actual, physical pain?

 

[Uncensored2008]

They haven't stolen shit, lol. Progressives think that government "property" are holy relics lol.

Government is the god of the left.