Assange Op Ed in The Australian newspaper

[bigrebnc1775]

I'm not going to that site...so unless you post it in its entirety and tell me the context I can't form an opinion.

You know he can't do that it would b against board rules and copy right infringment.

Sure he could. He could leave off a couple of "ands" and "thes".

That would be dishonest.

 

[Dr Grump]

One more time I said it was against board rules. Now I'm through

You are wrong on both counts. The board rules only apply to articles and copyrighted material. The cables are not articles nor are they copyrighted...

You didn't do much research, did you? Otherwise you'd have found out posting classified materials is against the law.

Which has what to do with copyright law on this board? Hint: Nothing....

 

[Dr Grump]

This guy should be kept in jail for as long as possible. He is a menace to society.

He is not even close to being a menace to society. He should be feted as a hero, not a criminal...

Moron. What is it with you 'tards? Why do you love criminals?

He is not a criminal.

 

[Dr Grump]

But stealing classified information is not?

Is Manning being dealth with?

Yes. So will Assange, because he violated American law.

Not in America he didn't. You sure you want to go down that path vis-a-vis the laws of Iraq or Afghanistan that your troops have violated? Or are you one of those asswipes that think that all law - anywhere in the world - is American law?

 

[Dr Grump]

There's no context, Kev. I have no idea what prompted that cable or who actually sent it.

Details do matter.

Unless the US Secretary of State is immune to your own statutes, it is illegal to try and obtain people's passwords and personal information without their consent. It's call hacking...

...so context doesn't matter unless the first part of my first para is true...

 

[Ravi]

You know he can't do that it would b against board rules and copy right infringment.

Sure he could. He could leave off a couple of "ands" and "thes".

That would be dishonest.

Says the moron. It wouldn't be dishonest, it would be keeping within the rules. And as has been pointed out to you, this is not copyrighted material.

 

[Ravi]

There's no context, Kev. I have no idea what prompted that cable or who actually sent it.

Details do matter.

Unless the US Secretary of State is immune to your own statutes, it is illegal to try and obtain people's passwords and personal information without their consent. It's call hacking...

...so context doesn't matter unless the first part of my first para is true...

Sure it does...were these people suspected of wrong doing, for instance, and was there a warrant to obtain the information? There is no way of knowing the context from what has been posted.

 

[Dr Grump]

Sure it does...were these people suspected of wrong doing, for instance, and was there a warrant to obtain the information? There is no way of knowing the context from what has been posted.

Hillary is said to be slightly embarrassed by the cable, which suggests that what she was doing wasn't kosha. If it was kosha I would expect her reaction to be either one of defiance or no comment at all....

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Sure he could. He could leave off a couple of "ands" and "thes".

That would be dishonest.

Says the moron. It wouldn't be dishonest, it would be keeping within the rules. And as has been pointed out to you, this is not copyrighted material.

You're a horses ass read the board rules

 

[Ravi]

Sure it does...were these people suspected of wrong doing, for instance, and was there a warrant to obtain the information? There is no way of knowing the context from what has been posted.

Hillary is said to be slightly embarrassed by the cable, which suggests that what she was doing wasn't kosha. If it was kosha I would expect her reaction to be either one of defiance or no comment at all....

Said to be?

My dear, you are said to be a rabid left wing Ozophile fucktard.

 

[daveman]

You are wrong on both counts. The board rules only apply to articles and copyrighted material. The cables are not articles nor are they copyrighted...

You didn't do much research, did you? Otherwise you'd have found out posting classified materials is against the law.

Which has what to do with copyright law on this board? Hint: Nothing....

Yes, and I showed you the law which does apply.

 

[daveman]

He is not even close to being a menace to society. He should be feted as a hero, not a criminal...

Moron. What is it with you 'tards? Why do you love criminals?

He is not a criminal.

Really? Receiving stolen state property is not illegal if you're not in the nation that the property was stolen from?

Wow. That's tremendously stupid.

 

[daveman]

Is Manning being dealth with?

Yes. So will Assange, because he violated American law.

Not in America he didn't. You sure you want to go down that path vis-a-vis the laws of Iraq or Afghanistan that your troops have violated? Or are you one of those asswipes that think that all law - anywhere in the world - is American law?

It's funny the way you pretend your opinion matters.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

You know he can't do that it would b against board rules and copy right infringment.

I don't know that it would be against board rules or copyright infringement, but I'm not going to copy and paste the entire cable, which is fairly long, regardless. However, it doesn't matter. I copied the relevant portions of the cable, if she can't form an opinion from what I've supplied she won't be able to form an opinion from the rest of the cable I don't think. As to why she doesn't want to go to the website I have no idea.

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However, it's clear that WikiLeaks does not own the copyright of the cable that I referenced, so would it apply? I don't know. I wouldn't post the whole thing either way, like I said.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Do you support what Manning did? If so, why?

Absolutely. Civil disobedience is important to keep an out of control government in check, and Manning exposed criminal activities that our State Dept. has been involved in. He should be praised, and Hillary and Condoleezza should be in prison.

What were those criminal activities by our State Dept.?

Stealing credit card information among other things. I've detailed it in previous posts.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

I think you could make a case for whistleblowing if he actually exposed any criminal activity...like proof of torture or war crimes. He didn't. I would be surprised, and in fact disappointed, to find that our government did not keep tabs on other governments, friendly or not. I'd also be surprised if other governments didn't keep tabs on ours.

There is nothing in what was released that anyone needs to know...except that the State Department is doing what it is supposed to do.

Stealing credit card information, banking information, physical DNA, etc... is a crime.

But stealing classified information is not?

It shouldn't be.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Manning is a little thief who thought the rules didn't apply to him. He's since found out that actions have consequences. That's a novel concept to you leftists, isn't it?

Maybe you can visit him in jail and organize candlelight vigils.

Leftist?

Yes, leftist. Conservatives don't cheer on traitors and spies.

Maybe I can, I'd love to chat with him.

Maybe you can send him a picture of your hands.

Well I'm not a leftist, but neither did I say I was a conservative.

I guess I could, but I don't see why I would do that.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Manning is the traitor, idiot.

Not according to the U.S. Constitution.

He gave aid to our enemies.

Looks like you're wrong.

WikiLeaks is a declared enemy? When was that resolution passed?

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

One more time I said it was against board rules. Now I'm through

You are wrong on both counts. The board rules only apply to articles and copyrighted material. The cables are not articles nor are they copyrighted...

You didn't do much research, did you? Otherwise you'd have found out posting classified materials is against the law.

Oopsy daisy.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

This guy should be kept in jail for as long as possible. He is a menace to society.

He is not even close to being a menace to society. He should be feted as a hero, not a criminal...

Moron. What is it with you 'tards? Why do you love criminals?

I believe you're the one defending criminals. The U.S. government.