Ashlii receives Military Honors

[otto105]

Cops on her side did not murder her.
She made the window buster angry at her.
Byrd stalked her.

bob, you lost being relevant again.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

from your list, I'd say

• RCW 9A.16.050 — Justifiable homicide (resisting a felony, defending self/others from imminent threat of death or great bodily harm).

he, nor others, were in danger of imminent threat of death. or bodily harm.

I repeat, she was still on the other side of the door and still had a make-do barricade to contend with.

Are you familiar with the concept of "defense in depth"? It's used to secure your systems and data in a cybersecurity context and is the way I was accustomed to thinking even before I actually was taught & trained to think this way.

If a person defeats multiple obstacles placed in their way to prevent them from achieving access to whatever it is you're protecting, by the time they have defeated everything but the last layer then offensive measures are not only allowable they're recommended.

Even if the U.S. Capitol is/was open to the public that day, that does not mean that the public has the right to access any and every place within it. A locked door is locked for a reason, however since they smashed out the windows of the locked door in order to gain access to an area that they were not authorized to be in and the reason for them wanting access to that area is so that they could "get their hands on" members of Congress and others who they were worried were "getting away", it makes sense to me and everyone else I've asked who works protecting the lives of others, that Lt. Bryd shot whoever tried to come through that broken out window IN ORDER TO dissuade the mob from further attempts and from swarming through.

The layers of defense were:
1. Locked door
2. Windows which were broken out
3. Furniture pushed up against the doors to try to prevent the doors from being pushed open
4. A gun pointed at the broken-out window

The people attempting this breach of the final area were engaged in criminal activity so why is anyone surprised that someone got shot? And don't forget, no one did anything to any of them as them as they were tearing up property. But once it came down to the lives of the individuals who were hiding in the auditorium there, that's when lethal force was implemented.

 

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the medical examiner said that there was no evidence of asphyxiation

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guilty

of

murder.

 

[Auld Phart]

Are you familiar with the concept of "defense in depth"? It's used to secure your systems and data in a cybersecurity context and is the way I was accustomed to thinking even before I actually was taught & trained to think this way.

If a person defeats multiple obstacles placed in their way to prevent them from achieving access to whatever it is you're protecting, by the time they have defeated everything but the last layer then offensive measures are not only allowable they're recommended.

Even if the U.S. Capitol is/was open to the public that day, that does not mean that the public has the right to access any and every place within it. A locked door is locked for a reason, however since they smashed out the windows of the locked door in order to gain access to an area that they were not authorized to be in and the reason for them wanting access to that area is so that they could "get their hands on" members of Congress and others who they were worried were "getting away", it makes sense to me and everyone else I've asked who works protecting the lives of others, that Lt. Bryd shot whoever tried to come through that broken out window IN ORDER TO dissuade the mob from further attempts and from swarming through.

The layers of defense were:
1. Locked door
2. Windows which were broken out
3. Furniture pushed up against the doors to try to prevent the doors from being pushed open
4. A gun pointed at the broken-out window

The people attempting this breach of the final area were engaged in criminal activity so why is anyone surprised that someone got shot? And don't forget, no one did anything to any of them as them as they were tearing up property. But once it came down to the lives of the individuals who were hiding in the auditorium there, that's when lethal force was implemented.

All you're doing is proving you have no real training in Use of Force, especially when it comes to Lethal Force.

I learned it in the military and that training was refreshed every year for 10 years working Corrections.

 

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Looks well to me, your judgement is way off..considering you voted for thIs:

<pssssst>

dark brandon is not prez anymore ...

concentrate on yer chosen one in the here & now...

And um he was playing golf with his grand daughter Trump pictured heading to play golf after baseless viral death speculation

i don't think he's dead.

yet.


but he's not healthy & shaking it off as if he is ain't wise.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Fair question. At the very least, it would make much more sense he got shot.

And in what respect does it make more sense?

From my perspective anyone who tried to breach that window would have understandable been shot to prevent a swarm of mob coming in. However if I could see someone smashing the windows out and that same person was the one who jumped into the window to breach it would have been easier to explain why we was perceived as a threat. As I attempted to explain earlier, the unfortunate part for Ashli is that being a part of a "mob", each member gets tarred equality in terms of guilt - that's allowable by law and when making a determination of dangerous a situation is becoming taking into consideration the mob as a whole creates a disparity of force meaning Ashli alone, unarmed but smashing the windows out and climbing through, would not present as big of a threat as Ashli leading a mob that was determined to break through an area they had been barricaded out of.

I guess it's human nature for some people when told that they are not allowed to do something, to then double down and do it anyway, damn the consequences.

 

[struth]

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dark brandon is not prez anymore ...

concentrate on yer chosen one in the here & now...





i don't think he's dead.

yet.


but he's not healthy & shaking it off as if he is ain't wise.

Of course he’s not but the fact you voted for him highlights your judgement is way off.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

All you're doing is proving you have no real training in Use of Force, especially when it comes to Lethal Force.

I learned it in the military and that training was refreshed every year for 10 years working Corrections.

Ahhh, so that's what this is all about.

Try me.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

I am they. Clearly you still have not paid attention.
Let's clear this up.
He stalked her. He had the gun.
Had she got into the window aiming her gun (she had none), we would say it was a good shoot. She is on video hitting a man breaking the window. She would not hit him, had she wanted into the window. She was executed.

I can't help the fact that you're stuck in a world where you can only think one- dimensionally.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Same woman. She was on the side of cops and hit the man busting windows. None of them shot her or the man busting the window. Byrd stalked her.

That's not what stalking is. Stalking generally involves following someone on more than one occasion.

It's better if you don't just make stuff up. You lose credibility that way.

 

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Of course he’s not but the fact you voted for him highlights your judgement is way off.

i didn't vote for a serial adulterer, convicted of 34 felonies, who also grifted suckers with a fake university, settled & admitted to 19 charges of racial housing discrimination, tried to steal an old woman's home thru eminent domain, so he can bulldoze her property to rubble & pave a parking lot for his bankrupted casino. nor did i vote for someone who brags about sexual assault & has been found liable for adjudicated rape.

but you did.

 

[konradv]

No cops were killed by J6. Post-event stress related deaths don’t map directly to the hands of J6 rioters.

The only person killed that day was an unarmed white protester by a black cop and you people cheered.

If you drive a getaway car and someone dies during a robbery, you’re guilty of murder. Free your mind.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Byrd should be charged with violating Babbitt's civil rights.
It was not necessary to shoot her.

Does the 4th Amendment Protect you From Excessive Force?
The Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution prohibits the use of excessive force in the course of an arrest, investigatory stop, or other seizure. Excessive force by a law enforcement officer is force that is objectively unreasonable under the circumstances.

She wasn't being arrested. She was shot to prevent the escalation of an existing threat while in the commission of a crime.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

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guilty

of

murder.

Medical examiner: No evidence George Floyd died of strangulation

MINNESOTA, Minn. (WTVO) — The Hennepin County Medical Examiner says a preliminary autopsy found no evidence that George Floyd died of strangulation and traumatic asphyxia after former Minneap…

www.mystateline.com

MINNESOTA, Minn. (WTVO) — The Hennepin County Medical Examiner says a preliminary autopsy found no evidence that George Floyd died of strangulation and traumatic asphyxia after former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin kneeled on his neck for more than 8 minutes.

The medical examiner said Floyd had underlying health conditions, including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease.

“The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death,” the medical examiner reported.

 

[Auld Phart]

She wasn't being arrested. She was shot to prevent the escalation of an existing threat while in the commission of a crime.

the situation did NOT call for deadly force.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

We need to dig that white ***** up again and shoot the **** out of her

wow an unarmed voting rights demonstrator real triggers the Left

 

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Medical examiner: No evidence George Floyd died of strangulation

MINNESOTA, Minn. (WTVO) — The Hennepin County Medical Examiner says a preliminary autopsy found no evidence that George Floyd died of strangulation and traumatic asphyxia after former Minneap…

www.mystateline.com

MINNESOTA, Minn. (WTVO) — The Hennepin County Medical Examiner says a preliminary autopsy found no evidence that George Floyd died of strangulation and traumatic asphyxia after former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin kneeled on his neck for more than 8 minutes.

The medical examiner said Floyd had underlying health conditions, including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease.

“The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death,” the medical examiner reported.

i'll stick with the official report, the ME's testimony under oath & a jury of 12 all un agreement that floyd was murdered & his cause of death of asphyxiation.

 

[struth]

i didn't vote for a serial adulterer, convicted of 34 felonies, who also grifted suckers with a fake university, settled & admitted to 19 charges of racial housing discrimination, tried to steal an old woman's home thru eminent domain, so he can bulldoze her property to rubble & pave a parking lot for his bankrupted casino. nor did i vote for someone who brags about sexual assault & has been found liable for adjudicated rape.

but you did.

Correct you voted for a senile man, that was too senile to be prosecuted, that needed to give out blanket pardons to his criminal cartel family and showered with his daughter

There is no way you’d go from that to voting for America’s Mandela

 

[Robert W]

That's not what stalking is. Stalking generally involves following someone on more than one occasion.

It's better if you don't just make stuff up. You lose credibility that way.

Stalking is not walking. Stalking is aiming at the prey then killing it.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

She wasn't being arrested. She was shot to prevent the escalation of an existing threat while in the commission of a crime.

officer byrd could have said "halt"
he could have given a verbal warning
he could have used a taser
he could have pushed her back
but he was terrified of a 110lb woman
so he chose to shoot her
that is excessive force
that is a 4th amendment civil rights violation