As Of Today These Are The Facts As We Know Them: Or how to hijack a thread LOL

[Dante]

There is nothing about his motives that could possibly justify his act

true
but we have no idea what his true motives are/were

There is nothing about his motives that could possibly justify his act and should have no bearing on prosecution and punishment. I do not see this becoming another OJ style jury nullification verdict without regard to whether he did the deed.

Charlie Kirk was part of society, so yes, the shooter was a danger to society. I will admit, he wasn't like the trump shooter, not only endanger his specific target in his demented attack, but killing and injuring others. But, there is no telling, who in society might be the next target or who, the next shooter. I have no problem whatsoever, with punishing a vicious criminal, blight on society, for their deeds done, knowing it will not prevent other atrocities. But it will punish the shooter for his atrocity, hence the reason the law was written. If found guilty of the act, the shooter should receive the maximum penalty punishment, simply as his personal punishment for the personal crime committed.

We have zero evidence the young man is/was a danger to society. We do know (if he is indeed the shooter) that he had a "wonderful" opportunity to engage in a seriously newsworthy mass shooting. He chose not to, or he was no danger to anybody else in that crowd.

 

[Dante]

Dante is of the opinion that we here need a thread that centers on the known facts in the case of the alleged "shooter" of Charlie Kirk. This thread has been started on the "Current Events" Board, rather than the "Law and Justice System" Board, because it is not about any legal arguments, but a "Depository" of the facts known as they are presented to the public.

‬Utah's Governor Spencer Cox (R) has said over the weekend that Tyler Robinson, 22, has not confessed to authorities or cooperated with the investigation since he turned himself in on Thursday night.

So what we know for a fact - so far - is that a 22 year old young man "Tyler Robinson" has turned himself in, because he was named as a suspect, and as a person of interest. He is now classified as a "SUSPECT," as the "alleged shooter." This young man has not now confessed to any crime, and he is not cooperating with any authorities.

Utah Gov. Spencer Cox (R) said over the weekend that Tyler Robinson, 22, has not confessed to authorities or cooperated with the investigation since he turned himself in on Thursday night.

The killing of Kirk, a divisive figure and close ally of President Donald Trump, during a public appearance at a Utah university Wednesday sent shock waves across the nation. Vice President JD Vance said on X that he will host the “Charlie Kirk Show” on Monday afternoon as a tribute.

The suspect is to be formally charged in a court appearance Tuesday​

Robinson is set to make his first court appearance on Tuesday in Provo, Utah, where authorities are expected to formally charge him.

He was taken into custody after a 33-hour manhunt that included local law enforcement agencies and the FBI. He is being held without bail in a special housing unit at the Utah County Jail on suspicion of aggravated murder, obstruction of justice and discharge of a weapon causing serious bodily harm. The count of aggravated murder could lead to a capital felony charge, which is punishable under Utah law by the death penalty or life in prison.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/09/15/charlie-kirk-shooting-suspect/

WHAT WE KNOW SO FAR

 

[Dante]

Regarding Known Facts: See y'all on Tuesday when the young man in question is arraigned

 

[22lcidw]

You don't know anything. I truly wish you would refrain from taking this thread down to where you usually do with threads.

You are playing a game that will self-immolate no matter if it is a year or a few decades. Your own party spouts Marxism and it uses phrases like Each according to ability each according to need. The ability part is a stretch as there are plenty of inferior people in the strings of power alone as we see here.

 

[White 6]

true
but we have no idea what his true motives are/were





We have zero evidence the young man is/was a danger to society. We do know (if he is indeed the shooter) that he had a "wonderful" opportunity to engage in a seriously newsworthy mass shooting. He chose not to, or he was no danger to anybody else in that crowd.

With luck on your side, maybe somebody will write a book, after everything settles down, that you might reflect upon with all the facts, in your old age, easing your curiosity, while the shooter is punished for simply the crime itself.

The weapon of choice was a hunting rifle, but it is a fact, there were many all around his target, and that target down, he did not continue shooting. Still firing into a crowd, even if only strike the target is a danger to society, local society and society as a whole. I certainly would not want the asshole shooting at me, and I, also, am a member of society. Plus, of course, he becomes a symbol to other assholes, that might think it OK to carry out horrific acts, in society. That being a further danger to society.

 

[Dante]

Mr Robinson was arrested on Thursday night after surrendering to police.

 

[TimFitz]

You are playing a game that will self-immolate no matter if it is a year or a few decades. Your own party spouts Marxism and it uses phrases like Each according to ability each according to need. The ability part is a stretch as there are plenty of inferior people in the strings of power alone as we see here.

None of this is true.

 

[Dante]

With luck on your side, maybe somebody will write a book, after everything settles down, that you might reflect upon with all the facts, in your old age, easing your curiosity, while the shooter is punished for simply the crime itself.

The weapon of choice was a hunting rifle, but it is a fact, there were many all around his target, and that target down, he did not continue shooting. Still firing into a crowd, even if only strike the target is a danger to society, local society and society as a whole. I certainly would not want the asshole shooting at me, and I, also, am a member of society. Plus, of course, he becomes a symbol to other assholes, that might think it OK to carry out horrific acts, in society. That being a further danger to society.

Only a danger to some in the crowd.

And this shooting didn't happen in a vacuum. The violence in political America has been increasing for some time.

Whether or not the shooter becomes a symbol to others is irrelevant here. Nobody is going to be charged with being a danger to society because of thoughts

 

[Dante]

None of this is true.

Cut the shit asshole

stop derailing the thread by feeding your fellow Trolls

 

[TimFitz]

Cut the shit asshole

stop derailing the thread by feeding your fellow Trolls

I'm sorry, but what I said was accurate.

It does not justify personal insults. Especially when I wad defending you!!!!!!!!

 

[Dante]

I'm sorry, but what I said was accurate.

It does not justify personal insults. Especially when I wad defending you!!!!!!!!

STOP responding to the trolls

better yet

take over the thread

lol

 

[Dante]

may as well go down to the Taunting Arena

 

[Winston]

"Or the impeachment proceedings where Trump could not defend himself?6]"

What a totally absurd thing to say!

He had an army of lawyers.

He got McConnell to rig both trials by disallowing any physical or documentary evidence. Which gave the GOP the thin excuse they needed to whitewash him.

Your claim could not be more blatantly false, or ridiculous.

Trump has the unique distinction of being the only president in the history of this country to have a member of his own party vote FOR his impeachment. And for Trump, it happened TWICE.

 

[Cassandro]

Dante is of the opinion that we here need a thread that centers on the known facts in the case of the alleged "shooter" of Charlie Kirk. This thread has been started on the "Current Events" Board, rather than the "Law and Justice System" Board, because it is not about any legal arguments, but a "Depository" of the facts known as they are presented to the public.

‬Utah's Governor Spencer Cox (R) has said over the weekend that Tyler Robinson, 22, has not confessed to authorities or cooperated with the investigation since he turned himself in on Thursday night.

So what we know for a fact - so far - is that a 22 year old young man "Tyler Robinson" has turned himself in, because he was named as a suspect, and as a person of interest. He is now classified as a "SUSPECT," as the "alleged shooter." This young man has not now confessed to any crime, and he is not cooperating with any authorities.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/09/15/charlie-kirk-shooting-suspect/

WHAT WE KNOW SO FAR

Nice try at getting your "opinion" posted before the facts completely discredit you.

 

[Godboy]

You don't know anything. I truly wish you would refrain from taking this thread down to where you usually do with threads.

The Governor reported those as facts on live tv. He literally said "he was in a relationship with a person who was in the process of transitioning".

 

[IM2]

It is unlikely, he will confess, even with DNA evidence against him, and of course that is his right to not self incriminate. I figure, he definitely did it, and am glad he is off the street, no longer a danger to society. Why did he do it? In the end, I do not care, as it is horrible enough, he chose to do it, that a death penalty, carried out by Utah firing squad at the end of fair trial and failed appeals, would be as good an outcome as we can hope for. Although, it will not bring Kirk back, people that choose this path of violence must know, they will be caught, tried and punished, up to and including, their own life being snuffed out, before they can pollute the gene pool or endanger society further.

Fair enough, but his confession could do a lot to change the atmosphere in this country.

 

[IM2]

The blood of Kirk and this young man who has been brainwashed by the Left is all on your hands.

I seriously doubt if the left has anything to do with this. It's just like everything else, you guys jump to blame the left, and we find out that's not what happened.

 

[IM2]

You mean like ralling around Trump being guilty 24/7 before a court heard any of his cases?

Or the impeachment proceedings where Trump could not defend himself?

1/3 of democrats wanted Trump to die in Butler but I bet all of those people want the shooter released.

The evidence showed that Trump was guilty.

 

[IM2]

There is nothing about his motives that could possibly justify his act, and should have no bearing on prosecution and punishment. I do not see this becoming another OJ style jury nullification verdict without regard to whether he did the deed.

Charlie Kirk was part of society, so yes, the shooter was a danger to society. I will admit, he wasn't like the trump shooter, not only endanger his specific target in his demented attack, but killing and injuring others. But, there is no telling, who in society might be the next target or who, the next shooter. I have no problem whatsoever, with punishing a vicious criminal, blight on society, for their deeds done, knowing it will not prevent other atrocities. But it will punish the shooter for his atrocity, hence the reason the law was written. If found guilty of the act, the shooter should receive the maximum penalty punishment, simply as his personal punishment for the personal crime committed.

Let's not compare this to OJ where the prosecution made mistake after mistake and put up witnesses that perjured themselves, such as Mr Fuhrman.

This shooter should be punished yes, and the rhetoric that caused this needs to end.

 

[TimFitz]

STOP responding to the trolls

better yet

take over the thread

lol

“Take over the thread”?

Whatsoever gave you the idea that you, or anyone else, “controls” a thread?

You’ve been around here long enough to know better.

So stop attacking me. Your personal insults sink to their level.