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[yidnar]

These are the same guys who just approved trillions in deficit spending right?

**** off.

and the bill is trillions less than the Dems last spending bill !

 

[candycorn]

and the bill is trillions less than the Dems last spending bill !

So...your message is that MAGA is no better than Democrats when it comes to deficits?

 

[yidnar]

So...your message is that MAGA is no better than Democrats when it comes to deficits?

they're better .. but not much better .. and at least fiscal conservatism is a growing faction in the gop [The Freedom Caucus] that is getting more support and influence over legislation ! the left has no faction interested in cuts to spending and waste .

 

[candycorn]

they're better .. but not much better .. and at least fiscal conservatism is a growing faction in the gop [The Freedom Caucus] that is getting more support and influence over legislation ! the left has no faction interested in cuts to spending and waste .

LOL.... The left actually would like to give trillions in tax cuts to those who don’t have billions of dollars to start with.

Somehow you folks think those who already have billions need to keep more money.

Here is the part where you tell us about temporary reduction on tax on tips and OT while ignoring that it goes away in a few years while the billionaire’s tax breaks are permanent.

Try again.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

The BBB is not perfect but it is far from a disaster.
Compared to Biden's 2024 budget the annual deficit went from $1.8T to $330b, that cuts $1.5T off the democrat's budget deficit
Then look at the $190b DOGE saved, add in $300b or so of new tariff revenue, then
Look at other rescissions, Fed rate cuts, better growth, and the BBB is a very good bill.

We're increasing the national debt by trillions of dollars without helping poor Americans....yeah, that's a ******* disaster.

At least Biden championed government programs that helped the poor and gave them a little extra money to spend. This bill is going to sink the U.S. economy.

And DOGE did not save $190 billion, you hopeless MAGA imbecile.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Your entire halfwit ideology would fall apart with a balance budget amendment cuz everything has to be free cuz it's your natural right!! Fun fact, economics don't work that way and will eventually lead to fiscal ruin

Asshat

And you hypocritical MAGA ***** would never pass one.....so there is that inconvenient fact, simp.

 

[dblack]

And you hypocritical MAGA ***** would never pass one.....so there is that inconvenient fact, simp.

Congress will never support a balanced budget period. Free shit is what they do.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

thanks for admitting that your party isn't even contemplating cuts to spending

Too bad for your dishonest MAGA simp ass that I didn't say that.

.. the Republicans do have a good number of leaders who are all about fiscal conservatism .. the Freedom Caucus is one example !

Please.....look how all of them got on their knees and sucked Trump's cock and helped pass this disastrous bill....increasing the national debt by more than $4 trillion.

The Freedom Caucus is a total ******* joke....I even started a separate thread about how they are terrified to stand up to Trump.

 

[yidnar]

LOL.... The left actually would like to give trillions in tax cuts to those who don’t have billions of dollars to start with.

Somehow you folks think those who already have billions need to keep more money.

Here is the part where you tell us about temporary reduction on tax on tips and OT while ignoring that it goes away in a few years while the billionaire’s tax breaks are permanent.

Try again.

if The recent Bill " that every dem voted against " would not have passed every American taxpayer would have seen a huge tax increase .. do you want the middle class to pay more taxes ?

 

[yidnar]

Too bad for your dishonest MAGA simp ass that I didn't say that.


Please.....look how all of them got on their knees and sucked Trump's cock and helped pass this disastrous bill....increasing the national debt by more than $4 trillion.

The Freedom Caucus is a total ******* joke....I even started a separate thread about how they are terrified to stand up to Trump.

the Biden admin added nearly 9 trillion dollars to the national debt in their disastrous 4 yrs in office .. Trumps spending bill adds 4 trillion over the next 10 yrs ! though I believe both parties spend too much .. the left spends more !

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

the Biden admin added nearly 9 trillion dollars to the national debt in there last disastrous 4 yrs .. Trumps spending bill adds 4 trillion over the next 4 yrs ! though I believe both parties spend too much .. the left spends more !

Biden was trying to help the country recover from Covid and he actually passed bills that helped poor people and the middle class.

Trump just added over $4 trillion to the national debt by helping nobody....except billionaires.

 

[yidnar]

Biden was trying to help the country recover from Covid and he actually passed bills that helped poor people and the middle class.

Trump just added over $4 trillion to the national debt by helping nobody....except billionaires.

Biden helped people with a wide open border , sky high fuel costs , sky high inflation , 2 major wars in Europe and the ME , rising interest rates , record fentanyl deaths , and rising rents and mortgage rates .. to name just a few ..

 

[kyzr]

These are the same guys who just approved trillions in deficit spending right? **** off.

These guys just cut $1.5T off Biden's last budget.
These guys cut $190b in DOGE savings
These guys added $300b or so in new tariff revenue annually
These guys will grow GDP closer to 3% not the CBO's 1.5%
These guys will see the Fed lower interest rates saving $billions in interest

These guys have a better shot at a surplus than a deficit.

 

[kyzr]

We're increasing the national debt by trillions of dollars without helping poor Americans....yeah, that's a ******* disaster.

That's a lie. The CBO projections do not include the new revenue I listed in post #105. The poor will have more opportunities.

At least Biden championed government programs that helped the poor and gave them a little extra money to spend. This bill is going to sink the U.S. economy.

Biden was a DISASTER. His policies cost families $11,400 in lost buying power due to Bidenflation:

Americans need an extra $11,400 today just to afford the basics, Republican analysis finds

Compared with 2021, the typical household must spend an additional $11,434 annually just to maintain their standard of living, analysis shows.

www.cbsnews.com

Americans need an extra $11,400 today just to afford the basics​

And DOGE did not save $190 billion, you hopeless MAGA imbecile.

DOGE identified $190b in savings. Congress will pass rescission packages to realize the savings.

DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency

DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency

doge.gov

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/4/text

 

[candycorn]

These guys just cut $1.5T off Biden's last budget.
These guys cut $190b in DOGE savings
These guys added $300b or so in new tariff revenue annually
These guys will grow GDP closer to 3% not the CBO's 1.5%
These guys will see the Fed lower interest rates saving $billions in interest

These guys have a better shot at a surplus than a deficit.

There was no budget...just another CR. You’re woefully misinformed.

PS: DOGE never found $190B.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

That's a lie. The CBO projections do not include the new revenue I listed in post #105. The poor will have more opportunities.

There is no new revenue....except in your deranged MAGA mind.

Biden was a DISASTER. His policies cost families $11,400 in lost buying power due to Bidenflation:

Americans need an extra $11,400 today just to afford the basics, Republican analysis finds

Compared with 2021, the typical household must spend an additional $11,434 annually just to maintain their standard of living, analysis shows.

www.cbsnews.com

Americans need an extra $11,400 today just to afford the basics​

DOGE identified $190b in savings. Congress will pass rescission packages to realize the savings.

DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency

DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency

doge.gov

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/4/text

Trump's tariffs will be 100 times worse than anything Biden did, imbecile.

 

[22lcidw]

We never claimed to be "fiscal conservatives"....you hypocritical MAGA ***** did.

You own this disastrous ******* bill, simp.

I don't care your opinion on the bill. You showed no concern for the legislation passed the first two years of Joe's administration. Your view is taxing the rich and that will balance the budget. It is so cut and dried. Yet when empowered you don't go full bore on that agenda. People are moving from your areas of control.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

I don't care your opinion on the bill. You showed no concern for the legislation passed the first two years of Joe's administration. Your view is taxing the rich and that will balance the budget. It is so cut and dried. Yet when empowered you don't go full bore on that agenda. People are moving from your areas of control.

Senator Josh Hawley, the hard core Jan 6 traitor himself, also hates the Medicaid cuts in the bill, shit-for-brains.

 

[kyzr]

There was no budget...just another CR. You’re woefully misinformed.
PS: DOGE never found $190B.

The CR created a budget instead of going thru the appropriations process like the GOP is doing now, but there was a 2024 budget.

2024 United States federal budget - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Congress needs to do rescission packages to realize the $190b of DOGE savings:

DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency

DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency

doge.gov

 

[kyzr]

There is no new revenue....except in your deranged MAGA mind.

I can prove my posts, you type lies.

MSN

www.msn.com

US could collect $300 billion in tariff revenue this year, Treasury chief says​

US Treasury targets $500 billion cash cushion by end-July as 2025 tariff revenue nears $100 billion | Today News

The US has collected about $100 billion in tariffs so far in 2025 and could reach $300 billion by year-end, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said on Tuesday. The revenue reflects President Trump’s aggressive trade strategy and is contributing to efforts to rebuild the Treasury’s cash reserves.

www.livemint.com

US Treasury targets $500 billion cash cushion by end-July as 2025 tariff revenue nears $100 billion​

Trump's tariffs will be 100 times worse than anything Biden did, imbecile.

Typing lies doesn't help the debate.
Biden's war on energy helped fuel inflation, Trump's energy policy is lowering energy costs.

How have prices changed under Trump? Experts explain.

Inflation is hovering near its lowest level since 2021.

abcnews.go.com

President Donald Trump’s sweeping tariffs earlier this year set off alarm among economists about a risk that just about every U.S. shopper fears: major price hikes. Instead, inflation has cooled, defying doomsday predictions and helping to propel sturdy economic performance.
To be sure, oil prices have dropped nearly 15% since Trump took office. Analysts attributed the trend to an anticipated drop in demand as investors worry about a global economic slowdown, instead of the spike in U.S. output promised by Trump. The decline in energy prices has helped cool inflation, they said, since oil makes up a key input cost for the transport of many products.