Army Veteran Killed By Palestinian Attacker in Israel

[JoeB131]

Heres the thing I AM NOT, I HAVE NOT MENTIONED ANY GOD OTHER THAN THE ISLAMIC ONE AND WHAT THEY BELIEVE HE SAID.

Shows that you are clutching at straws by making false claims about what other are writing, when their words are right there. So do you want to apologise for LYING or do you want to be ridiculed every time you post from now on.

If you want to get yourself banned for harrassment, be my guest. I'll just put you on ignore.

That is why they die in their thousands when Israel retaliates

Yup, and that's why the world hates the Zionists.. They are the new Nazis.

Now when did it become arab muslim land as I cant find any mention of any treaty handing the land to them from the Ottomans or LoN. So how did it become their land

GUy, we've had this discussion. The Arabs have lived their since the sixth century. Arabic has been the local language. Not Turkish or English or Hebrew or any other group of interlopers who stopped by. The days of Imperialism and Colonialism are long over. Zionism is a nasty vestige of that time.

 

[JoeB131]

Both are in the koran and are verified in the hadiths as the meaning of the verses in the koran. By no one you mean you and your fellow islamonazi propagandists that are paid to incite violence against the Jews.

Please point out the Koranic verse that advocates killing the Jews OR the availability of virgins in the afterlife. Thanks.

 

[Sally]

Joe, regardless of people being religious or not, there has been much slaughtering of people on both sides. I believe those who were involved in "The Killing Fields" of Cambodia were atheists. Mao had no problem killing all those people in China even though he was an atheist. As I once told my Muslim neighbor, I don't care what religion someone is as long as they are not out to kill me. If someone wants to worship the man in the moon, that is their prerogative.

If the following is possibly true (and the DNA of chimps is close to humans), perhaps Joe should tell them to stop this particular practice. Too bad Cheetah has passed on or else Joe would have the opportunity to discuss this with him.

I think you miss the point. Yes, humans have a pretty shitty record of treating each other in general.

But I guess I see fighting over land and resources as a bit more understandable than fighting over what an imaginary fairy in the sky wants.

The thing was, the PLO used to be pretty secular. They were a national liberation movement working against colonialism - and yes, Zionism started as a colonial movement.

Then the Mossad thought it would be brilliant to encourage the Islamic radicals like Hamas as a foil to the secularists in Fatah. About the same time Ronnie Ray-gun decided that arming Jihadists was a great idea because those dirty stinkin' commies might teach girls how to read in Afghanistan.

That's why I find it funny when peices of shit like Jew-Roids and Roudy get on here and scream about "Islamo-Nazis" like those two words even go together, because people like them were the ones who created the problem to start with.

You seem to forget, Joe, that even before the idea of an organized religion, men were killing each other. Surely you must have learned in your history class of all the ancient wars. Meanwhile, I don't know why you have a problem with people if they follow a religion should they choose to do so. So many people find comfort in their religion, and their beliefs are not bothering you. It is only when someone wants to harm you because of their beliefs, then you should start worrying.

Yes, JoeB has been able to infiltrate Mossad so he knows exactly what they are doing. I wish we were all that fortunate to be able to do that. I really wish an old poster from another message board were here. He was a retired State Department employee who even gave the address in Russia where Arafat went and where the Russians told him to use the term Palestinians as referring to the Arabs because previously they were called Syrians or just plain Arabs. To call an Arab a Palestinian previously was like an insult because it would be like calling them a Jew.. Perhaps Joe can tell us why the Palestine exhibit in the World's Fair of 1940 was run by the Jews and not the Arabs.

 

[Sally]

Both are in the koran and are verified in the hadiths as the meaning of the verses in the koran. By no one you mean you and your fellow islamonazi propagandists that are paid to incite violence against the Jews.

Please point out the Koranic verse that advocates killing the Jews OR the availability of virgins in the afterlife. Thanks.

Perhaps you should read the Hadiths, Joe, to get a good handle on this. Or maybe you should watch some of the videos of the Imams saying the Jews and Christians are monkeys and dogs and to kill them.

 

[Sally]

Say, folks, has anyone ever seen Mr. Rodent mention any of the rapes his Muslim friends are committing all over Europe. I know I haven't so maybe he gives his Muslim friends a pass when they are the rapists.

I don't have to, you all do it for me:

Now when the talk was about Gaddafi, I don't believe that Mr. Rodent ever said a word about him. Was it because Ghaddafi was a Muslim and not a Jew?

Colonel Gaddafi 'Kidnapped and Raped Hundreds of Girls and Boys'

See what I mean?

Yes, we have never seen Mr. Rodent bring up any news what the Muslims are doing not only in his own country or in other places on this planet. Does anyone think he would ever bring up any bad about his buddies? He must believe the readers are comatose if he thinks they don't see right thru him. Now if you don't want to say anything bad about what your buddies have been doing, would it really be too difficult for you to at least tell the readers what is going on in other Middle East countries since you are hanging out on this forum? Lots going on that doesn't involve any fighting.

 

[Sally]

Yes, Chicago is home to Nation of Islime enemy of state Islamic terrorist dirtbags.

The group should be outlawed, and Louis Farakhan should be put in Federal prison for committing treason.

Well, thankfully, America is still a free country where we don't torture people for worshipping the wrong sky pixie like the Zionist Entity does.

I find it funny that you complain about people being tortured and killed due to their faith, when your brethern Muslim Neanderthals have the market cornered on that.

The problem with Jo, is that underneath it all he is anti-Semitic. He overlooks what the Muslims are doing to others, even Muslims of other sects, to obsess over the Jews. Does it bother him at all to read about all the suicide bombings and car bombings in Muslim countries such as Pakistan? Probably not because he can't drag in the Jews.

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I really am flabbergasted that a thread about an Army Vet being killed in Israel has so veered off course but then we have JoeB with his usual about Israel. If someone JoeB knew visited Israel or any country in the Middle East and we killed by an Arab, caring posters would be giving JoeB their sympathy.

 

[montelatici]

Joe, regardless of people being religious or not, there has been much slaughtering of people on both sides. I believe those who were involved in "The Killing Fields" of Cambodia were atheists. Mao had no problem killing all those people in China even though he was an atheist. As I once told my Muslim neighbor, I don't care what religion someone is as long as they are not out to kill me. If someone wants to worship the man in the moon, that is their prerogative.

If the following is possibly true (and the DNA of chimps is close to humans), perhaps Joe should tell them to stop this particular practice. Too bad Cheetah has passed on or else Joe would have the opportunity to discuss this with him.

I think you miss the point. Yes, humans have a pretty shitty record of treating each other in general.

But I guess I see fighting over land and resources as a bit more understandable than fighting over what an imaginary fairy in the sky wants.

The thing was, the PLO used to be pretty secular. They were a national liberation movement working against colonialism - and yes, Zionism started as a colonial movement.

Then the Mossad thought it would be brilliant to encourage the Islamic radicals like Hamas as a foil to the secularists in Fatah. About the same time Ronnie Ray-gun decided that arming Jihadists was a great idea because those dirty stinkin' commies might teach girls how to read in Afghanistan.

That's why I find it funny when peices of shit like Jew-Roids and Roudy get on here and scream about "Islamo-Nazis" like those two words even go together, because people like them were the ones who created the problem to start with.

You seem to forget, Joe, that even before the idea of an organized religion, men were killing each other. Surely you must have learned in your history class of all the ancient wars. Meanwhile, I don't know why you have a problem with people if they follow a religion should they choose to do so. So many people find comfort in their religion, and their beliefs are not bothering you. It is only when someone wants to harm you because of their beliefs, then you should start worrying.

Yes, JoeB has been able to infiltrate Mossad so he knows exactly what they are doing. I wish we were all that fortunate to be able to do that. I really wish an old poster from another message board were here. He was a retired State Department employee who even gave the address in Russia where Arafat went and where the Russians told him to use the term Palestinians as referring to the Arabs because previously they were called Syrians or just plain Arabs. To call an Arab a Palestinian previously was like an insult because it would be like calling them a Jew.. Perhaps Joe can tell us why the Palestine exhibit in the World's Fair of 1940 was run by the Jews and not the Arabs.

From 1922:

PALESTINE.
​

CORRESPONDENCE
WITH THE
PALESTINE ARAB DELEGATION
AND THE
ZIONIST ORGANISATION.​

​

Presented to Parliament by Command of His Majesty.
JUNE, 1922.
LONDON:​

".........Whilst the position in Palestine is, as it stands to-day, with the British Government holding authority by an occupying force, and using that authority to impose upon the people against their wishes a great immigration of alien Jews, many of them of a Bolshevik revolutionary type, no constitution which would fall short of giving the People of Palestine full control of their own affairs could be acceptable.

If the British Government would revise their present policy in Palestine, end the Zionist con-dominium, put a stop to all alien immigration and grant the People of Palestine — who by Right and Experience are the best judges of what is good and bad to their country — Executive and Legislative powers, the terms of a constitution could be discussed in a different atmosphere. If to-day the People of Palestine assented to any constitution which fell short of giving them full control of their own affairs they would be in the position of agreeing to an instrument of Government which might, and probably would, be used to smother their national life under a flood of alien immigration....."

UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization/British policy in Palestine: "Churchill White Paper" - UK documentation Cmd. 1700/Non-UN document (excerpts) (1 July 1922)

​

 

[Phoenall]

Joehammad, you keep saying that but you seem really pissed off that your beloved Islamonazi brethren are getting their butts kicked by a small number of Jews. Perhaps if they stopped trying to commit genocide the ass kicking would stop?

Yes, I do get upset when people murder women and children and pretend to be brave.

Then you should be especially upset at what your fellow Muslim Arabs are doing then.

But they are allowed to do that cos they are not Jews see, it is only the Jews that cant defend against terrorism and violence

 

[Phoenall]

Joe, regardless of people being religious or not, there has been much slaughtering of people on both sides. I believe those who were involved in "The Killing Fields" of Cambodia were atheists. Mao had no problem killing all those people in China even though he was an atheist. As I once told my Muslim neighbor, I don't care what religion someone is as long as they are not out to kill me. If someone wants to worship the man in the moon, that is their prerogative.

If the following is possibly true (and the DNA of chimps is close to humans), perhaps Joe should tell them to stop this particular practice. Too bad Cheetah has passed on or else Joe would have the opportunity to discuss this with him.

I think you miss the point. Yes, humans have a pretty shitty record of treating each other in general.

But I guess I see fighting over land and resources as a bit more understandable than fighting over what an imaginary fairy in the sky wants.

The thing was, the PLO used to be pretty secular. They were a national liberation movement working against colonialism - and yes, Zionism started as a colonial movement.

Then the Mossad thought it would be brilliant to encourage the Islamic radicals like Hamas as a foil to the secularists in Fatah. About the same time Ronnie Ray-gun decided that arming Jihadists was a great idea because those dirty stinkin' commies might teach girls how to read in Afghanistan.

That's why I find it funny when peices of shit like Jew-Roids and Roudy get on here and scream about "Islamo-Nazis" like those two words even go together, because people like them were the ones who created the problem to start with.

You seem to forget, Joe, that even before the idea of an organized religion, men were killing each other. Surely you must have learned in your history class of all the ancient wars. Meanwhile, I don't know why you have a problem with people if they follow a religion should they choose to do so. So many people find comfort in their religion, and their beliefs are not bothering you. It is only when someone wants to harm you because of their beliefs, then you should start worrying.

Yes, JoeB has been able to infiltrate Mossad so he knows exactly what they are doing. I wish we were all that fortunate to be able to do that. I really wish an old poster from another message board were here. He was a retired State Department employee who even gave the address in Russia where Arafat went and where the Russians told him to use the term Palestinians as referring to the Arabs because previously they were called Syrians or just plain Arabs. To call an Arab a Palestinian previously was like an insult because it would be like calling them a Jew.. Perhaps Joe can tell us why the Palestine exhibit in the World's Fair of 1940 was run by the Jews and not the Arabs.

From 1922:

PALESTINE.

CORRESPONDENCE
WITH THE
PALESTINE ARAB DELEGATION
AND THE
ZIONIST ORGANISATION.

Presented to Parliament by Command of His Majesty.
JUNE, 1922.
LONDON:​

".........Whilst the position in Palestine is, as it stands to-day, with the British Government holding authority by an occupying force, and using that authority to impose upon the people against their wishes a great immigration of alien Jews, many of them of a Bolshevik revolutionary type, no constitution which would fall short of giving the People of Palestine full control of their own affairs could be acceptable.

If the British Government would revise their present policy in Palestine, end the Zionist con-dominium, put a stop to all alien immigration and grant the People of Palestine — who by Right and Experience are the best judges of what is good and bad to their country — Executive and Legislative powers, the terms of a constitution could be discussed in a different atmosphere. If to-day the People of Palestine assented to any constitution which fell short of giving them full control of their own affairs they would be in the position of agreeing to an instrument of Government which might, and probably would, be used to smother their national life under a flood of alien immigration....."

UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization/British policy in Palestine: "Churchill White Paper" - UK documentation Cmd. 1700/Non-UN document (excerpts) (1 July 1922)

​

Irrelevent as the arab muslims had already declared that they wanted it all and would not take part in any discussions. Then threatened violence if they did not get their way.

 

[JoeB131]

You seem to forget, Joe, that even before the idea of an organized religion, men were killing each other. Surely you must have learned in your history class of all the ancient wars. Meanwhile, I don't know why you have a problem with people if they follow a religion should they choose to do so. So many people find comfort in their religion, and their beliefs are not bothering you. It is only when someone wants to harm you because of their beliefs, then you should start worrying.

When someone thinks his beliefs mean that 1) He can steal someone else's land, 2) bomb women and children indiscriminately to pay for it and 3) Insist the United States has to pay for it in terms of treasure and blood, then Yes, yes, that bothers me and yes, that's why those people want to do me harm. You don't see them committing acts of terror against Japan, because Japan doesn't support the Zionist Entity.

Yes, JoeB has been able to infiltrate Mossad so he knows exactly what they are doing. I wish we were all that fortunate to be able to do that. I really wish an old poster from another message board were here.

Why bother? It's an established historical fact that the Zionists promoted Hamas as a ploy against Fatah.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/ZER403A.html

The Hamas then launched a carefully timed campaign of attacks against civilians, one day before the meeting between Palestinian and Israeli negotiators, regarding the formal recognition of Israel by the National Palestinian Council. These events were largely instrumental in the formation of a Right wing Israeli government following the May 1996 elections.

Quite unexpectedly, Prime Minister Netanyahu ordered Sheik Ahmed Yassin to be released from prison ("on humanitarian grounds") where he was serving a life sentence. Meanwhile, Netanyahu, together with President Bill Clinton, was putting pressure on Arafat to control the Hamas. In fact, Netanyahu knew that he could rely, once more, on the Islamists to sabotage the Oslo accords. Worse still: after having expelled Yassin to Jordan, Prime Minister Netanyahu allowed him to return to Gaza, where he was welcomed triumphantly as a hero in October 1997.

Arafat was helpless in the face of these events. Moreover, because he had supported Saddam Hussein during the1991 Gulf war, (while the Hamas had cautiously abstained from taking sides), the Gulf states decided to cut off their financing of the Palestinian Authority. Meanwhile, between February and April 1998, Sheik Ahmad Yassin was able to raise several hundred million dollars, from those same countries. The the budget of The Hamas was said to be greater than that of the Palestinian Authority. These new sources of funding enabled the Islamists to effectively pursue their various charitable activities. It is estimated that one Palestinian out of three is the recipient of financial aid from the Hamas. And in this regard, Israel has done nothing to curb the inflow of money into the occupied territories.

 

[JoeB131]

The problem with Jo, is that underneath it all he is anti-Semitic. He overlooks what the Muslims are doing to others, even Muslims of other sects, to obsess over the Jews. Does it bother him at all to read about all the suicide bombings and car bombings in Muslim countries such as Pakistan? Probably not because he can't drag in the Jews.

The "other Muslims" aren't doing this on our dime or insisting that we get involved time after time. They are not forming groups like AIPAC and PNAC to influence and control our policy.

I really am flabbergasted that a thread about an Army Vet being killed in Israel has so veered off course but then we have JoeB with his usual about Israel. If someone JoeB knew visited Israel or any country in the Middle East and we killed by an Arab, caring posters would be giving JoeB their sympathy.

If someone I knew went to the Middle East, I'd tell them not to go. If they went anyway, and got killed, I wouldn't feel particularly bad about it.

Frankly, there are places in the Middle East I would LOVE to visit. So much wonderful history. But because the Zionists have so riled up the Muslim World against America, I know it's not safe to do so.

 

[Phoenall]

Heres the thing I AM NOT, I HAVE NOT MENTIONED ANY GOD OTHER THAN THE ISLAMIC ONE AND WHAT THEY BELIEVE HE SAID.

Shows that you are clutching at straws by making false claims about what other are writing, when their words are right there. So do you want to apologise for LYING or do you want to be ridiculed every time you post from now on.

If you want to get yourself banned for harrassment, be my guest. I'll just put you on ignore.

That is why they die in their thousands when Israel retaliates

Yup, and that's why the world hates the Zionists.. They are the new Nazis.

Now when did it become arab muslim land as I cant find any mention of any treaty handing the land to them from the Ottomans or LoN. So how did it become their land

GUy, we've had this discussion. The Arabs have lived their since the sixth century. Arabic has been the local language. Not Turkish or English or Hebrew or any other group of interlopers who stopped by. The days of Imperialism and Colonialism are long over. Zionism is a nasty vestige of that time.

COWARD

So does the world hate the Americans when they kill thousands, if not why not. The Palestinians have set out to kill the Jews and put it in their charter, so why cant the Jews retaliate in forcer to their attacks aimed at children ?

Living there means nothing according to you as the Jews had lived there since 2500 BCE. They had control of the land for 22 years maximum and then where evicted leaving just stragglers. So when did they become the legal owners of Palestine and under which treaty was this passed to them ? The Jews did not pass sovereignty to the Zionists as you seem to be claiming it was the LoN that passed it to the Jews. They also passed sovereignty to the arab muslims over 99.9% of the former Ottoman empire.

Now when are you going to give back your stolen land to the rightfull owners and see if you can find a nation to take you in

 

[JoeB131]

So does the world hate the Americans when they kill thousands, if not why not. The Palestinians have set out to kill the Jews and put it in their charter, so why cant the Jews retaliate in forcer to their attacks aimed at children ?

we kill thousands because the Jews in our government instigate it. (although I should give the Oil companies their share of the credit.)

The EUROPEAN ZIONISTS have no business being there any more than any other European colonial invader.

Living there means nothing according to you as the Jews had lived there since 2500 BCE. They had control of the land for 22 years maximum and then where evicted leaving just stragglers. So when did they become the legal owners of Palestine and under which treaty was this passed to them ? The Jews did not pass sovereignty to the Zionists as you seem to be claiming it was the LoN that passed it to the Jews. They also passed sovereignty to the arab muslims over 99.9% of the former Ottoman empire.

You can complain about the Ottoman Empire and the League of Nations and the British and a bunch of other shitheads who aren't around anymore... but they had no more business giving away the Palestinian's land than I would have giving away your big screen TV to a family I considered more worthy than you.

 

[JoeB131]

Perhaps you should read the Hadiths, Joe, to get a good handle on this. Or maybe you should watch some of the videos of the Imams saying the Jews and Christians are monkeys and dogs and to kill them.

YOu miss the point. If those verses are IN THE KORAN, then you should have no problem finding them like you claim. Moving the goalposts to include Hadiths (different one being followed by diferent sects) doesn't count.

Nor some crazy Imam making weird speeches. By that logic, we should judge Christianity by the rantings of Fred Phelps and Judaism by the rantings of Meier Kahane.

 

[Phoenall]

Both are in the koran and are verified in the hadiths as the meaning of the verses in the koran. By no one you mean you and your fellow islamonazi propagandists that are paid to incite violence against the Jews.

Please point out the Koranic verse that advocates killing the Jews OR the availability of virgins in the afterlife. Thanks.

Here you go the hadiths ( PART OF THE KORAN )

“Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.” — Sahih Muslim 6985



those who fight in the way of Allah and are killed will be given a great reward. It goes on to stipulate that Muslims will be awarded with women in Islamic heaven. It even describes their physical attributes—large eyes (Q 56:22) and big, firm, round "swelling breasts" that are not inclined to sagging (Q 78:33). The Qur'an refers to these virgins as houri, companions of equal age, but the highly-flavored emphasis of their bodily characteristics, including their virginity, gave rise to many hadiths and other Islamic writings.

Hadith 2687 is where the number 72 is mentioned. "The smallest reward for the people of Heaven is an abode where there are eighty thousand servants and 72 houri, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine and ruby, as wide as the distance from al-Jabiyyah to San'a."

 

[Phoenall]

So does the world hate the Americans when they kill thousands, if not why not. The Palestinians have set out to kill the Jews and put it in their charter, so why cant the Jews retaliate in forcer to their attacks aimed at children ?

we kill thousands because the Jews in our government instigate it. (although I should give the Oil companies their share of the credit.)

The EUROPEAN ZIONISTS have no business being there any more than any other European colonial invader.

Living there means nothing according to you as the Jews had lived there since 2500 BCE. They had control of the land for 22 years maximum and then where evicted leaving just stragglers. So when did they become the legal owners of Palestine and under which treaty was this passed to them ? The Jews did not pass sovereignty to the Zionists as you seem to be claiming it was the LoN that passed it to the Jews. They also passed sovereignty to the arab muslims over 99.9% of the former Ottoman empire.

You can complain about the Ottoman Empire and the League of Nations and the British and a bunch of other shitheads who aren't around anymore... but they had no more business giving away the Palestinian's land than I would have giving away your big screen TV to a family I considered more worthy than you.

MORE BULLSHIT LIES THAT YOU CANT SUBSTANTIATE FROM A VALID SOURCE. JUST ISLAMONAZI PROPAGANDA

What about the Palestinian Zionists, the Egyptian Zionists, the Syrian Zionists, the Saudi Zionists in fact 80% of the Zionists in Israel that came from the surrounding arab muslim nations ? Or will you now come out with some more islamonazi bullshit lies and propaganda ?

You could if you owned it, and that is the one fact you are ignoring. The arab muslims from Palestine joined forces with the Ottomans in 1914 and were beaten, the Ottomans lost their empire as a result and this meant that the new owners could DO WHAT THEY WANTED. The Ottomans lost and so did the arab muslims under the mufti, and so they had no claims to the land from 1920 when the treaty was signed.

Now want to try again with the treaty giving the land to the arab muslims . I have produced the ones giving land to the Jews, Jordanians, Syrians, Iraqi's, Iranians and Egyptians so why cant you provide the one for the Palestinians ?

 

[JoeB131]

Here you go the hadiths ( PART OF THE KORAN )

Hadiths are not part of the Koran, guy.

Hadith - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The hadith literature is based on spoken reports that were in circulation in society after the death of Prophet Muhammad. Unlike the Quran itself, which was compiled under the official direction of the early Islamic State inMedina,[5] the hadith reports were not compiled by a central authority. Hadith were evaluated and gathered into large collections during the 8th and 9th centuries, generations after the death of Muhammad, after the end of the era of the "rightful" Rashidun Caliphate, over 1000 km from where Muhammad lived.

 

[Phoenall]

Perhaps you should read the Hadiths, Joe, to get a good handle on this. Or maybe you should watch some of the videos of the Imams saying the Jews and Christians are monkeys and dogs and to kill them.

YOu miss the point. If those verses are IN THE KORAN, then you should have no problem finding them like you claim. Moving the goalposts to include Hadiths (different one being followed by diferent sects) doesn't count.

Nor some crazy Imam making weird speeches. By that logic, we should judge Christianity by the rantings of Fred Phelps and Judaism by the rantings of Meier Kahane.

The hadiths are part of the koran numb nuts and are not sect specific at all. They are the explanation of some of the more obscure verses from the koran and they are the sayings of Mohamed that he gave to explain what he meant.

 

[Phoenall]

Here you go the hadiths ( PART OF THE KORAN )

Hadiths are not part of the Koran, guy.

Hadith - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The hadith literature is based on spoken reports that were in circulation in society after the death of Prophet Muhammad. Unlike the Quran itself, which was compiled under the official direction of the early Islamic State inMedina,[5] the hadith reports were not compiled by a central authority. Hadith were evaluated and gathered into large collections during the 8th and 9th centuries, generations after the death of Muhammad, after the end of the era of the "rightful" Rashidun Caliphate, over 1000 km from where Muhammad lived.

MORE ISLAMONAZI BULLSHIT CLAIMS

The hadiths tell you that the words are those of Mohamed and written down at the time, the explanations of the verses that his followers did not understand


As you should be aware wiki is not seen as a valid source of evidence due to the fact anyone can edit the entries. Our own monte has admitted to doing so showing that even islamonazi propagandists can change other peoples work

 

[JoeB131]

You could if you owned it, and that is the one fact you are ignoring. The arab muslims from Palestine joined forces with the Ottomans in 1914 and were beaten, the Ottomans lost their empire as a result and this meant that the new owners could DO WHAT THEY WANTED. The Ottomans lost and so did the arab muslims under the mufti, and so they had no claims to the land from 1920 when the treaty was signed.

Guy, the problem with this rant is that the Arabs sided with the British because the British promised them independence. Then the British turned around and tried to give the place to the Jews, mostly because they didn't want Jews in Europe, and who can blame them, really?

The hadiths are part of the koran numb nuts and are not sect specific at all. They are the explanation of some of the more obscure verses from the koran and they are the sayings of Mohamed that he gave to explain what he meant.

so they aren't part of the Koran, they are how someone else INTERPRETED the Koran hundreds of years later....