Arizona's longest dry spell

[Yarddog]

I've read more on you pseudo-scientific globalclimatecoolerwarmeringchange hoax than I care to recount.

You misanthropic, hand wringing, declinist, merchants of impending doom have been wrong since before Malthus.

Go fly a fucking kite.

with the new updraft caused by climate change, I think he will be flying a kite now for a VERY long time.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Lets see if you fare any better. If the climate really was staring to behave differently, how would we recognize that? what signs do you think we should look for?

Temperatures, wind speeds, co2 levels, oxygen, levels, rainfall, hailstorms, droughts, floods etc.. have moved around the planet since day one and at different intensities. You are sat there with a pen and piece of paper scribbling away daily measurements producing spiky graphs and stupid predictions/conclusions. If you want to base your feelings and nerves on silly record books, that's up to you.

 

[justoffal]

As if we need more evidence of climate change, but this is worth noting, even some rugged tough cacti in my yard are suffering, not a drop of rain for FIVE consecutive months. I'm seriously dreading this coming summer:

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Phoenix nears dry spell record as drought conditions worsen

Arizona capital, made drier and hotter by climate crisis, edges towards longest streak without recorded rain

www.theguardian.com

Natural history provides all the evidence we need of multiple climate changes. What we really need and don't have because it doesn't exist Is a definite connection between man-made CO2 and climate change. So why don't you take some sunscreen and go down Arizona and tan up some of that crackah skin.?

 

[Oddball]

True, pseudoscience is what trumpanzees specialize in - just look at RFK.

So you only ever want to hear good, just ignore bad news, shoot the messenger if you don't like the news.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Temperatures, wind speeds, co2 levels, oxygen, levels, rainfall, hailstorms, droughts, floods etc.. have moved around the planet since day one and at different intensities.

Yes, the weather fluctuates but weather isn't the same as climate - so that's Lesson 1 for you. Weather is hard to predict because it behaves chaotically but climate isn't.

You are sat there with a pen and piece of paper scribbling away daily measurements producing spiky graphs and stupid predictions/conclusions. If you want to base your feelings and nerves on silly record books, that's up to you.

You never attempted to answer my question, here it is again in case you missed it:

If the climate really was staring to behave differently, how would we recognize that? what signs do you think we should look for?

The trumpanzee deniers here claim that no matter what we observe, no matter where it is, no matter how extreme it is, no matter what damage we might observe, no matter how many deaths we might see, none of it is caused by human activity and there's nothing we can do to influence it.

That is the deniers claim, that's a very very tall order, why do you expect me to believe you?

Take your time, think about the question and use whatever understanding of science you have to try and give me an answer.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Yes, the weather fluctuates but weather isn't the same as climate - so that's Lesson 1 for you. Weather is hard to predict because it behaves chaotically but climate isn't.

You never attempted to answer my question, here it is again in case you missed it:

If the climate really was staring to behave differently, how would we recognize that? what signs do you think we should look for?

The trumpanzee deniers here claim that no matter what we observe, no matter where it is, no matter how extreme it is, no matter what damage we might observe, no matter how many deaths we might see, none of it is caused by human activity and there's nothing we can do to influence it.

That is the deniers claim, that's a very very tall order, why do you expect me to believe you?

Take your time, think about the question and use whatever understanding of science you have to try and give me an answer.

Multi quote replies

Some feedback guys. I KNOW what I wrote, I DO NOT need to re-read what I wrote in snippet form, so please DO NOT multi quote one of my posts, I will not simply read it. You do not sit in a pub with a friend having a conversation and reply to something they've said in a multi quote way. Now...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Captain Caveman

If the climate really was staring to behave differently, how would we recognize that? what signs do you think we should look for?

Do you understand the question? if so, what's your answer?

Why are people struggling with this simple question?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Gfy. Did globull warming cause the dust bowl in the 1930s? Save your fckn bullshit, toad

Gagging on Gaia

The Depression reduced auto emissions. Warmalarmies want a permanent economic collapse, not because they're Zero-Growth Gurus but "to save the planet."

 

[Captain Caveman]

Captain Caveman

If the climate really was staring to behave differently, how would we recognize that? what signs do you think we should look for?

Do you understand the question? if so, what's your answer?

Why are people struggling with this simple question?

The answer is simple, the alarmists want the exact narrow range of climate that they've experienced in their lives. The earth has never worked like that. The alarmists state what the climate scenario is (a false premise) and then they want everyone else to argue against that. I can't argue against something that's false.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The answer is simple, the alarmists want the exact narrow range of climate that they've experienced in their lives. The earth has never worked like that. The alarmists state what the climate scenario is (a false premise) and then they want everyone else to argue against that. I can't argue against something that's false.

How does that answer my question?

I asked what would YOU look for what would YOU expect to observe IF the behavior of the climate WAS changing?

What would YOU want to actually observe in order to say "OK, I'm satisfied, the behavior of earth's climate really is changing"?

Everything the climate experts show you, you reject, so you must have some expectations, some criteria else you'd not be able to reject what they show you.

Discussing science with trumpanzees is like discussing theology with atheists, they refuse to be honest, they do not want to believe the conclusion of a reasoned rational argument and so they just refuse to be honest, they dismiss the conclusions because they just want to dismiss the conclusion not because there's no evidence supporting the conclusion, how can people actually go through life that way...

Climate change denial is exactly the same mental anomaly as God denial - self deception, willful intellectual dishonesty.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I don't believe in globull warming. It's just a gigantic wealth redistribution scam.

The Emperors' Club Motto: "We Got Ours, and We're Not Going to Let You Get Yours"

Wealth reduction except at the top has the same effect, especially when the toppers inherited their money and never earned a cent of it. Transnationalist Trustfundee Tyranny.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I think it was this one...

26. The Affluent Society | THE AMERICAN YAWP

Oh wait, maybe it was this one...

The Book That Incited a Worldwide Fear of Overpopulation

'The Population Bomb' made dire predictions—and triggered a wave of repression around the world

www.smithsonianmag.com

You fearmongering drips couldn't pick the winner of a one-horse race.

The Warm-Mongers Only Win When Playing Solitaire

 

[Yarddog]

The amazing thing in all of this is that the CLIMATE could ever be considered political and part of U.S. politics, elections etc.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

On the contrary it is the trumpanzees who are the fear mongers, you're afraid of everything:

immigrants,
science,
books,
drag queens,
people eating pets,
people taking away your guns,
climate change,
foreigners,
NATO,
Palestinians,
democracy,
communism,
socialism,
Trotskyism,
China,
Russia,
libraries,
blacks,
the deep state,
leftists,

Your entire political belief system is a sham, for morons who can't read, based on laziness, fear and dread and like the spineless weaklings you are you go along, follow the leader, too afraid to stand on your own two feet, to afraid to act like an individual and use what little intelligence God gave you.

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Self-Important Statist Soliloquy

 

[Captain Caveman]

How does that answer my question?

I asked what would YOU look for what would YOU expect to observe IF the behavior of the climate WAS changing?

What would YOU want to actually observe in order to say "OK, I'm satisfied, the behavior of earth's climate really is changing"?

Everything the climate experts show you, you reject, so you must have some expectations, some criteria else you'd not be able to reject what they show you.

Discussing science with trumpanzees is like discussing theology with atheists, they refuse to be honest, they do not want to believe the conclusion of a reasoned rational argument and so they just refuse to be honest, they dismiss the conclusions because they just want to dismiss the conclusion not because there's no evidence supporting the conclusion, how can people actually go through life that way...

Climate change denial is exactly the same mental anomaly as God denial - self deception, willful intellectual dishonesty.

You asked, "If the climate really was staring to behave differently, how would we recognize that? what signs do you think we should look for?"'. I've told you, it's not behaving differently. So there's nothing to recognise. You make the question as though it's real and a fact, as a valid scenario, and I've told you, it isn't. Very simple, but you're not grasping it

I'm in the UK, what on earth are you rabbiting on about Trumpaneezs? You are an Alarmist, and in the words of Jordan Peterson, you're simply adopting pseudo moralistic stances.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Sherlock Holmes

What hasn't co2 and temperature followed one another over the earth's history, but only on the "records" kept by humans in the last 150 to 200 years?

 

[justoffal]

So Bill Nye The paid for science Guy.... Simply reestablishes the fact that climate change is climate change. Nobody's arguing climate change, we're arguing with whether or not man is causing it and to date that has never been proved only claimed.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

You asked, "If the climate really was staring to behave differently, how would we recognize that? what signs do you think we should look for?"'.

Yes, so you understand the question - or it seems so at least.

I've told you, it's not behaving differently.

How can you tell?

So there's nothing to recognize.

If you have no criteria for recognizing something then of course it will look there's nothing to recognize. In this case you must be honest and admit that you have no idea if it is or is not changing.

You make the question as though it's real and a fact, as a valid scenario, and I've told you, it isn't. Very simple, but you're not grasping it

Not at all, you must be interpreting that way, stop playing around and just admit you don't actually have any idea what you're talking about.

I'm in the UK, what on earth are you rabbiting on about Trumpaneezs? You are an Alarmist, and in the words of Jordan Peterson, you're simply adopting pseudo moralistic stances.

You speak like a trumpanzee though, climate change denial is one of their core beliefs.

Climate change deniers rely on the same stupid reasoning that God deniers rely on, but that's what happens when people are not educated.