Arizona Sheriff: ‘Our Own Government Has Become Our Enemy’

[Bullfighter]

Gotta a problem with stupidity like yours, silver.

Taking money out of your pocket to feed Latin America is called charity.
Taking money out of my pocket to feed Latin America is called theft.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Gotta a problem with stupidity like yours, silver.

Taking money out of your pocket to feed Latin America is called charity.
Taking money out of my pocket to feed Latin America is called theft.

You have a right to your opinion, but your prosperity lives on the back of illegal immigrants.

 

[theHawk]

The fact that he is deporting illegal aliens in far greater numbers than in the previous administrations?

Once you admit that, we can move forward.

You're so full of shit. Deportation has been steadily rising for the last decade.

• The fiscal years do not square precisely with presidential years. Fiscal year 2008 was entirely under Bush, while fiscal year 2009 consisted of four months under Bush and eight under Obama. So using the raw fiscal-year figures doesn't quite prove the Bush-Obama comparison.

• It's not clear that Obama policies deserve credit (or blame, depending on your perspective) for any increase in deportations, as Ramos implies. Michelle Mittelstadt, a spokesman for the Migration Policy Institute, said that "deportation numbers have been on a steadily upward trajectory" since 2002, due to a number of policy changes initially undertaken during the Bush administration. Indeed, between 2002 and 2008, deportations rose by 117 percent.

• DHS also provided totals for part of fiscal year 2010 -- the portion from Oct. 1, 2009, through June 7, 2010. That number was 227,163. If you prorate that amount to a full 12 months, you get a full-year total of 330,419 -- which is less than each of the two previous years. However, immigration experts said that deportations are not spaced equally throughout the year, meaning that prorating is not necessarily valid.

PolitiFact | Obama deported more people in his first year than Bush did in his last, Spanish-language news anchor says

 

[JakeStarkey]

You deliberately misconstrue, Hawk, so I won't permit your deceit. The great number of deportations have exponentially increased under Obama, not the GOP, period.

 

[saveliberty]

"U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents overwhelmingly say that their department's leadership has become politicized to the point of affecting the effectiveness of ICE.

ICE agents through their union claim their leaders have little regard for the safety of American people. Their union has released a letter announcing its recent unanimous “vote of no confidence” in ICE agency heads, accusing them of “misleading the American public” regarding illegal immigration in order to further a pro-amnesty agenda."

ICE chiefs slammed with "no confidence" vote from agents

Sounds like the sheriff has a point.

 

[JakeStarkey]

"U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents overwhelmingly say that their department's leadership has become politicized to the point of affecting the effectiveness of ICE.

ICE agents through their union claim their leaders have little regard for the safety of American people. Their union has released a letter announcing its recent unanimous “vote of no confidence” in ICE agency heads, accusing them of “misleading the American public” regarding illegal immigration in order to further a pro-amnesty agenda."

ICE chiefs slammed with "no confidence" vote from agents

Sounds like the sheriff has a point.

The sheriff has no point other than getting his fat ass re-elected.

Deportations are exponentially increasing under this administration.

That's the point.

 

[theHawk]

You deliberately misconstrue, Hawk, so I won't permit your deceit. The great number of deportations have exponentially increased under Obama, not the GOP, period.

"Exponentially"? Nice exaggeration.

• DHS apprehended 792,000 foreign nationals; 88 percent were natives of Mexico.
• The number of foreign nationals apprehended by the Border Patrol decreased 17 percent from 2007 to 2008.
• ICE detained approximately 379,000 foreign nationals.
• Nearly 359,000 aliens were removed from the United States—the sixth consecutive record high. The leading countries of origin of those removed were Mexico (69 percent), Honduras (8 percent) and Guatemala (7.7 percent).
• 811,000 foreign nationals accepted an offer to return to their home countries without a removal order.
• Expedited removals accounted for 113,500 or 32 percent of all removals.
• DHS removed 97,100 known criminal aliens from the United States.

http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/enforcement_ar_08.pdf



Now if you would. Please post the numbers for 2009 that show an "exponential" increase in deportations.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Hawk, glad to hear from you. Now compare all that to the Bush years, hmmm?

 

[GHook93]

Your usename is 'deportillegals'?

Do you have any other interests?

isn't it sad that that's how someone would choose to identify themselvs? i gues it could be worse... he could have named himself 'whitesupremacist'.

Come on Jil just because your against illegal immigration, does not make you a white supremacist or racist at all. In fact I would say 99% of the Americans against illegal immigration (in which a ton are Latinos) are not white supremacists!

 

[JakeStarkey]

I would suggest the majority (50% plus one) are indeed racists and race supremacists on this issue.

 

[theHawk]

Hawk, glad to hear from you. Now compare all that to the Bush years, hmmm?

Those ARE the numbers from the BUSH years.

So, you can't put up any numbers to back your claims.

Time for you to just shut up.

 

[saveliberty]

Obama is pushing amnesty, not deportation. Ask ICE.

You've heard of saved/ created jobs? This is deported/legalized immigration. The bad ideas just keep coming!

 

[JakeStarkey]

Thanks, Hawk. I wanted you to pull the lever on your own gallows of logic. And you did! Indeed, the Obama administration has done much better on this issue than did that of Bush, and that you can't deny honestly.

 

[JakeStarkey]

saveliberty, why are deportations up then?

 

[Biggles]

The federal government will not permit a racist illegal law from being enforced by racist police and it is the feds who are your enemies. Who is in control in AZ the KKK ?

The Federal Gov't will not enforce the current Federal law, so Arizona has chosen to enforce the law. The Feds go after Arizona, but ignore Sanctuary Cities breaking Fed Law.

UNBELIEVABLE

 

[JakeStarkey]

Actually quite believable, as the GOP equally will not blame Wall Street and its own policies under the GOP congress for the economic meltdown. UNBELIEVABLE! Biggles, you are a tool.

 

[SW2SILVER]

Does anyone here ACTUALY know what laws illegal immigrants are breaking? What category do they fall into, exactly what law(s) are illegal immigrants breaking? Is it a felony or a misdemeanor? Is it even a lawful offense? Now, I actually have a reason asking this. I have a feeling that our government doesn’t even know the answers to my questions. Yes. I have asked the feds this, and they really didn’t have a clear answer. That is the root of this issue. THAT is why I ask this here now. I morally oppose illegal aliens, but that isn't quite enough.

 

[AmericanFirst]

The federal government will not permit a racist illegal law from being enforced by racist police and it is the feds who are your enemies. Who is in control in AZ the KKK ?

You are an idiot, the illegal immegrants are ILLEGAL!!! Throw them out, but don't expect the weak kneed socialist in office now to care. Oh, Jesus was not a social activist or a liberal, he is the savior of the world.

 

[AmericanFirst]

isn't it sad that that's how someone would choose to identify themselvs? i gues it could be worse... he could have named himself 'whitesupremacist'.

I'm not racist.

Sure you are, the whole "illegals problem" is purely emotions based.

No it's not it's political. They are illegal period and need to be deported period. The excuse that whoever is against illegal immigration is a racist lame and shows a certain lack of common sense, but then liberalism is a phycosis.

 

[Againsheila]

The federal government will not permit a racist illegal law from being enforced by racist police and it is the feds who are your enemies. Who is in control in AZ the KKK ?

There is already a federal law requiring legal residents to carry their greed cards <which are really pink> with them everywhere. Why on earth does this judge believe the police shouldn't be able to ask for those papers?

As for racism...illegals, like Americans, come in all colors.