Arizona Senate Passes Bill Allowing Business Owners To Refuse Service To Gays

[Quantum Windbag]

Anti-polygamy laws are not based on gender. Incest is illegal. So those examples are not the same as same-sex marriage.

Same-sex marriage is based on gender.

Anti-polygamy laws are based on what then? "Ickyness"? Please do explain. Incest between two consenting adults is not illegal. And if it is illegal, why is that? "Ickyness"? Please do explain.

CAL. PEN. CODE § 284 : California Code - Section 284
Persons being within the degrees of consanguinity within which marriages are declared by law to be incestuous and void, who intermarry with each other, or who being 14 years of age or older, commit fornication or adultery with each other, are punishable by imprisonment in the state prison.​

I believe in other threads you mentioned you are from California, here is your state law on incest.

If you are over 14 and have sex with a family member to which Civil Marriage is denied your can be sent to prison.

Sounds like a crime to me. The fact this law exists under the penal code of California is also a pretty good indicator.


CAL. PEN. CODE § 284 : California Code - Section 284
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The fact that the Penal Code code of California specifies that it is legal to hunt whales from your car is all the proof I need to now how indicative any law in California is.

By the way, not being married is a defense against incest in California.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Because having a team named Redskins hasn't kept them from making money......hosting the NFL in a town that discriminates and most likely will experience boycuts, cuts down on their money-making.....it's a big deal and some in Arizona are finally seeing the light....I think Brewer is, if not, she may be dumber than she appears.

They won't boycott the Super Bowl.

You can't be sure of that, and the NFL wouldn't want to take that chance....

Because you are the expert on all things NFL.

 

[bendog]

Polygamists, minors, siblings and adult/adult children don't get to marry who they fall in love with either. They can do something else, but society tells them they cannot sully the word "marriage" with their peculiar behaviors. Society defines marriage, not the strange combinations that society doesn't approve of.

Anti-polygamy laws are not based on gender. Incest is illegal. So those examples are not the same as same-sex marriage.

Same-sex marriage is based on gender.

Homosexuality was illegal 50 years ago.

And marrying outside your race

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Do you honestly think the NFL will spend billions of dollars to move next years Super Bowl just because you are a nutbag? You do realize that it would take a vote of all the owners, and quite a few of them hate you as it is, don't you?

Can't imagine why they'd bother. I mean, really. It's the Super Bowl. If some dimwit decides to boycott it by not buying a ticket, does anyone REALLY believe there won't be someone else - or ten someone elses - who will say, "Screw gay people, I'm going to the Super Bowl" and buy that ticket instead?

Maybe you don't know history.....it is the Super Bowl, and they've done it before. And, if you think it is just about dimwits not buying tickets, you know little about business, as you claim.

In 1990 as now, the location of the NFL’s title game played a big role in a political decision. The NFL decided then to move the 1993 Super Bowl because of Arizona’s refusal to make Martin Luther King Day an official state holiday. Instead, Super Bowl XXVII was played in Los Angeles, the runner-up when the game’s site was chosen.
When a voter referendum on the holiday was rejected in November 1990, then-commissioner Paul Tagliabue said: “I do not believe playing Super Bowl XXVII in Arizona is in the best interest of the National Football League. Arizona can continue its political debate without the Super Bowl as a factor.”
Why the NFL moved the Super Bowl from Arizona in 1990

In 1993 the Super Bowl was just a game, now it is an extravaganza which allows the NFL to extort cash from taxpayers. That takes years to build up to, but it can be destroyed in a lot easier. If they move it now, and prove they don't need all the extra money they get from the state, and city, they will lose their ability to coerce cites into throwing cash at them in the future. They might even teach sities that they don't need to fork over cash for football stadiums, which would destroy their business model.

Ain't going to happen.

 

[Statistikhengst]

"Whining Bitches"? Who the **** are you man? I'm clearly here talking with you, absorbing information, learning things with an open mind, and agreeing with many of your points.

I'm sorry everyone can't be an expert on the intricacies of every bill discussed in every thread (despite the fact that you clearly are (or think you are)); that's why we come here - to learn. If you think my viewpoint was mistaken - fine - I'll read what you have to say and if I believe it to be valid I might change my own opinion on the subject.

But one thing I know is when you're an asshole you rarely win anyone over - even if your evidence is solid and irrefutable. You need to learn some more effective communication skills.

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I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure your name isn't Mertex.

Maybe you should stop taking things personally.

Anyone has freedom to post and answer to anyone else's posts. Aren't you with the group that claims to push "freedom" - ironic that you are taking exception here.

And, the reason they are responding is because your posts are inane, and they need to point it out, but you get your panties all in a wad when anyone tries to tell you anything different than what you believe, and start showing it by posting in huge letters....just shows how immature and infantile you really are.

That was very sane of you, responding to so much batshit crazy insanity. Brava, Contessa, brava!

 

[Quantum Windbag]

"Whining Bitches"? Who the **** are you man? I'm clearly here talking with you, absorbing information, learning things with an open mind, and agreeing with many of your points.

I'm sorry everyone can't be an expert on the intricacies of every bill discussed in every thread (despite the fact that you clearly are (or think you are)); that's why we come here - to learn. If you think my viewpoint was mistaken - fine - I'll read what you have to say and if I believe it to be valid I might change my own opinion on the subject.

But one thing I know is when you're an asshole you rarely win anyone over - even if your evidence is solid and irrefutable. You need to learn some more effective communication skills.

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I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure your name isn't Mertex.

Maybe you should stop taking things personally.

Anyone has freedom to post and answer to anyone else's posts. Aren't you with the group that claims to push "freedom" - ironic that you are taking exception here.

And, the reason they are responding is because your posts are inane, and they need to point it out, but you get your panties all in a wad when anyone tries to tell you anything different than what you believe, and start showing it by posting in huge letters....just shows how immature and infantile you really are.

Hence my advise to him not to take things personally, especially if the comment is not directed at him, oh idiot of idiots.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Anti-polygamy laws are not based on gender. Incest is illegal. So those examples are not the same as same-sex marriage.

Same-sex marriage is based on gender.

Homosexuality was illegal 50 years ago.

And marrying outside your race

I am sure you think you have a point there.

Newsflash, you don't.

 

[Derideo_Te]

I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure your name isn't Mertex.

Maybe you should stop taking things personally.

Anyone has freedom to post and answer to anyone else's posts. Aren't you with the group that claims to push "freedom" - ironic that you are taking exception here.

And, the reason they are responding is because your posts are inane, and they need to point it out, but you get your panties all in a wad when anyone tries to tell you anything different than what you believe, and start showing it by posting in huge letters....just shows how immature and infantile you really are.

That was very sane of you, responding to so much batshit crazy insanity. Brava, Contessa, brava!

That particular BSC has entire arguments with the voices in his head, which he always manages to lose somehow! This explains why is always so angry and bad tempered.

Best to leave those who argue with stop signs alone in my opinion!

 

[bendog]

Homosexuality was illegal 50 years ago.

And marrying outside your race

I am sure you think you have a point there.

Newsflash, you don't.

if I don't, neither do you.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

And marrying outside your race

I am sure you think you have a point there.

Newsflash, you don't.

if I don't, neither do you.

If you have an actual problem with someone, it should be the guy that argued that people cannot marry their brothers because it is illegal, not me.

I was responding to a claim that, because incest is illegal, that no one can marry their brother. Unless everyone has been lying about things, people are now marrying other people of the same sex even though homosexuality was illegal just a few years ago.

 

[Silhouette]

Homosexuality was illegal 50 years ago.

And marrying outside your race

Except that race and the cult of LGBT's behaviors have nothing whatsoever to do with one another. One is a state born into. The other is an incomplete compulsive deviant sexual behavioral grouping that crosses all races and both genders, as compulsive behaviors always do.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Homosexuality was illegal 50 years ago.

And marrying outside your race

Except that race and the cult of LGBT's behaviors have nothing whatsoever to do with one another. One is a state born into. The other is an incomplete compulsive deviant sexual behavioral grouping that crosses all races and both genders, as compulsive behaviors always do.

Needless to say you have no sound credible scientific basis for your homophobic rantings!

 

[Uncensored2008]

And marrying outside your race

I am sure you think you have a point there.

Newsflash, you don't.

if I don't, neither do you.

It's illegal to marry outside of your race.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

And marrying outside your race

Except that race and the cult of LGBT's behaviors have nothing whatsoever to do with one another. One is a state born into. The other is an incomplete compulsive deviant sexual behavioral grouping that crosses all races and both genders, as compulsive behaviors always do.

Needless to say you have no sound credible scientific basis for your homophobic rantings!

You, on the other hand, have none for yours.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I am sure you think you have a point there.

Newsflash, you don't.

if I don't, neither do you.

It's illegal to marry outside of your race.

Really? That guy at the bottom of your post is married to a White Woman.

 

[Katzndogz]

It's a wonder that all the resorts in Palm Springs who advertise themselves as accepting only gay men as customers are allowed to stay in business.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Homosexuality was illegal 50 years ago.

And marrying outside your race

Except that race and the cult of LGBT's behaviors have nothing whatsoever to do with one another. One is a state born into. The other is an incomplete compulsive deviant sexual behavioral grouping that crosses all races and both genders, as compulsive behaviors always do.

Incorrect.

Whether one is gay as a consequence of birth or choice is legally and Constitutionally irrelevant. The Fifth Amendment’s Liberty Clause guarantees all persons the right to self-determination, free from interference by the state (Lawrence v. Texas (2003)).

Gay Americans constitute a class of persons entitled to 14th Amendment protections, including the right to due process and equal protection of the law (Romer v. Evans (1996)).

 

[PaintMyHouse]

It's a wonder that all the resorts in Palm Springs who advertise themselves as accepting only gay men as customers are allowed to stay in business.

It's unlikely they say that, it would be illegal, unless you are a private club. Then you can wear a tiny pink polka dot bikini and a white pointy hood while swimming if you wish to.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Really? That guy at the bottom of your post is married to a White Woman.

Bait hook, cast - GOT ONE.

The guy at the bottom of my post is from a race known as "human."

From what I know, his wife is also from the race known as human.

Now should he try to marry a sheep - much to the chagrin of those posting from New Zealand - he would be prohibited.

The race of humans may to marry the race of sheep.

 

[paperview]

Really? That guy at the bottom of your post is married to a White Woman.

Bait hook, cast - GOT ONE.

The guy at the bottom of my post is from a race known as "human."

From what I know, his wife is also from the race known as human.

Now should he try to marry a sheep - much to the chagrin of those posting from New Zealand - he would be prohibited.

The race of humans may to marry the race of sheep.

This ahere is what we call retarded.

We're all one race. you go with that freakbait.