Arizona Senate Passes Bill Allowing Business Owners To Refuse Service To Gays

Dad WWII Marine rifle platoon leader Saipan, Guam, Tinian to name a few. More fruit salad on his chest than a shirt could hold up.
"A real defender of liberty and freedom seeks to protect and fight for the rights of everyone including the folks they may detest the most"
Am sure someone probably said that before him and he repeated it.
But that is spot on.
Incredible Americans take their freedom for granted and do not defend the rights of everyone.
Gay folks should not be singled out to deny service based on "religious beliefs".

Hey Dawg, aren't you glad you have PaintMyHouse on your side!

:thup:
I don't have a side, and If I were you I wouldn't talk. Your kind is the reason why Obama won, twice.
 
I own 3 corporations which are small businesses. I am as strong a fiscal conservative as there is here. I can not stand the current Obama administration and their Mickey Mouse way they go about the economic issues this country faces.
But we are getting KILLED every election, EVERY TIME on this gay boogeyman issue.
And the young Republicans are sick of it.
DO WE WANT TO WIN ELECTIONS or play this silly ass anti gay bull shit game?
Grow up and some STONES you milk weak sissies. LINE IT UP and let's go kick some Democratic ASS.
I was born a winner and hate to lose. Get over this silly ass BULL SHIT of gay this and that.
These bills are nothing more than a waste of time.

Uh...no we aren't.

2010 was the largest landslide since the 30's.....
It is heading that way again this year....this is only an issue to the 2-6% that are gay in this country.

Nonsense.

You and others on the right need to get over this 2010 myth you’ve contrived; 2010 was a net loss for the GOP, where the Party failed to win the Senate and lost governors’ races in California and New York – all as a consequence of the ignorance and stupidity of the TPM.

And the TPM cost republicans the Senate again in 2012.

The American people overwhelmingly reject the hateful agenda pursued by the TPM and social conservatives, particularly with regard to conservative efforts to deny gay Americans their civil liberties.
 
Dad WWII Marine rifle platoon leader Saipan, Guam, Tinian to name a few. More fruit salad on his chest than a shirt could hold up.
"A real defender of liberty and freedom seeks to protect and fight for the rights of everyone including the folks they may detest the most"
Am sure someone probably said that before him and he repeated it.
But that is spot on.
Incredible Americans take their freedom for granted and do not defend the rights of everyone.
Gay folks should not be singled out to deny service based on "religious beliefs".

Hey Dawg, aren't you glad you have PaintMyHouse on your side!

:thup:

When you are right and do the right thing you never have to have anyone on your side.
My strength has always been in my faith.
And for a few years my upfield rush!
 
Businesses lash out over Arizona's anti-gay bill - Feb. 25, 2014

National corporations including American Airlines (AAL), AT&T (ATT ), Delta Airlines (DAL, Fortune 500), Intel (INTC, Fortune 500), Marriott (MAR, Fortune 500), PetSmart (PETM, Fortune 500) and Yelp (YELP) are among those urging Brewer to veto the bill, saying the law would be bad for the state's reputation and bad for business -- repelling tourists, potential employees and current workers who live in the state.
 
Practically speaking, it probably IS too late to repeal such Public Accommodation Laws, in light of the perception that they do far more good than harm. For those topical areas (like dealing with people who are perceived as wrongdoers according to various mainstream religious teachings) that represent relative new and uncharted territory in matters of Law-versus-Religion, it seems more likely that we will see some considerable tweaking to Public Accommodation Laws, in the form of supplemental legislation such as Arizona tried (and, apparently, failed) to create in this latest sortie. One badly-executed effort does not mean it's over; hardly; most likely, they're only getting warmed up.

That's exactly why I'm opposed to the 'tweaking'. It only delays the nation's realization that the general principle behind these kinds of laws is fundamentally flawed, and runs counter to the American traditions of liberty and equal protection. But I'm not as pessimistic. We're moving steadily into areas where the harm done is increasing and the perceived benefit more questionable. I think people will wake up. Eventually.
Thinking, not you're strong suit. The law is settled. It's just getting it done now.

Good answer, good answer!
 
I own 3 corporations which are small businesses. I am as strong a fiscal conservative as there is here. I can not stand the current Obama administration and their Mickey Mouse way they go about the economic issues this country faces.
But we are getting KILLED every election, EVERY TIME on this gay boogeyman issue.
And the young Republicans are sick of it.
DO WE WANT TO WIN ELECTIONS or play this silly ass anti gay bull shit game?
Grow up and some STONES you milk weak sissies. LINE IT UP and let's go kick some Democratic ASS.
I was born a winner and hate to lose. Get over this silly ass BULL SHIT of gay this and that.
These bills are nothing more than a waste of time.

Uh...no we aren't.

2010 was the largest landslide since the 30's.....
It is heading that way again this year....this is only an issue to the 2-6% that are gay in this country.

Nonsense.

You and others on the right need to get over this 2010 myth you’ve contrived; 2010 was a net loss for the GOP, where the Party failed to win the Senate and lost governors’ races in California and New York – all as a consequence of the ignorance and stupidity of the TPM.

And the TPM cost republicans the Senate again in 2012.

The American people overwhelmingly reject the hateful agenda pursued by the TPM and social conservatives, particularly with regard to conservative efforts to deny gay Americans their civil liberties.

LOL, peddle your revision bullshit elsewhere.

We gained 60 in the House, and 6 in the Senate and 5 Governorships.

Clayton you are an idiot, run along little boy/girl.

Governor
http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php?year=2010&off=5&f=0

House
United States Senate elections, 2010 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Senate
United States Senate elections, 2010 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Businesses lash out over Arizona's anti-gay bill - Feb. 25, 2014

National corporations including American Airlines (AAL), AT&T (ATT ), Delta Airlines (DAL, Fortune 500), Intel (INTC, Fortune 500), Marriott (MAR, Fortune 500), PetSmart (PETM, Fortune 500) and Yelp (YELP) are among those urging Brewer to veto the bill, saying the law would be bad for the state's reputation and bad for business -- repelling tourists, potential employees and current workers who live in the state.

Someone I know presented this what if....What if Michael Sam is drafted by the Arizona Cardinals?
 
Gays better go down to Michaels and take some good cake decorating classes whether or not this becomes law. Surely you can't imagine that Christians will really start violating their religious beliefs just because. Good thing cell phone cameras take such good pictures.
 
Businesses lash out over Arizona's anti-gay bill - Feb. 25, 2014

National corporations including American Airlines (AAL), AT&T (ATT ), Delta Airlines (DAL, Fortune 500), Intel (INTC, Fortune 500), Marriott (MAR, Fortune 500), PetSmart (PETM, Fortune 500) and Yelp (YELP) are among those urging Brewer to veto the bill, saying the law would be bad for the state's reputation and bad for business -- repelling tourists, potential employees and current workers who live in the state.

Someone I know presented this what if....What if Michael Sam is drafted by the Arizona Cardinals?

That'd definitely be amusing. Maybe he could use that law to get on another team. I'd hope so because the Cardinals are a cursed organization :laugh:
 
Sam was asked what if the Miami Dolphins drafted him.
"Would love to play for the Dolphins and would be honored if they drafted me"
Would say the same thing if AZ drafted him.
Smart kid.
 
Gays better go down to Michaels and take some good cake decorating classes whether or not this becomes law. Surely you can't imagine that Christians will really start violating their religious beliefs just because. Good thing cell phone cameras take such good pictures.

Wonder if any of those Christian lunch counter owners are still around.
Can not have gay folks eating with the straight folk at the lunch counters.
You ain't a Christian if you eat lunch with gay folks.
 
That's probably true for roughly 40% of the country, and nearly all of the land called the fly-over zone.

I bet you can't prove that.

For the record, I have lived in some pretty small towns, and never saw one that had a single movie theater. One of them had less than 5000 people in it, and still had two theaters.

Quit lying.

That was a few years ago, before Hollywood made it all but impossible for small theaters to survive, but I am willing to bet you can't find any town that has only one theater.
 
So we pass laws to protect the "religious beliefs" of business people on Monday through Saturday and then we go to church on Sunday asking forgiveness for our sins of not treating gays and lesbians as we would have them treat us.

You are confusing your delusions for how real people do things.
 
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No Catholic priest has ever been forced to marry 2 Jews or 2 Muslims.
And never will.
EVER.
Or 2 gays or 2 midgets or 2 whatever.
The law is they can not do anything TO STOP folks from being married.
NOT forced to CONDUCT THE CEREMONY.
Same with every preacher and pastor in the country.
That argument is a bogus fraud lie to the core.
AMAZING the damn lies the religious right spreads.

It is amazing how you think that is reassuring. does that come from being a closed minded bigot?
 
No Catholic priest has ever been forced to marry 2 Jews or 2 Muslims.
And never will.
EVER.
Or 2 gays or 2 midgets or 2 whatever.
The law is they can not do anything TO STOP folks from being married.
NOT forced to CONDUCT THE CEREMONY.
Same with every preacher and pastor in the country.
That argument is a bogus fraud lie to the core.
AMAZING the damn lies the religious right spreads.

It is amazing how you think that is reassuring. does that come from being a closed minded bigot?

What? Care to expand on that?
 
I own 3 corporations which are small businesses. I am as strong a fiscal conservative as there is here. I can not stand the current Obama administration and their Mickey Mouse way they go about the economic issues this country faces.
But we are getting KILLED every election, EVERY TIME on this gay boogeyman issue.
And the young Republicans are sick of it.
DO WE WANT TO WIN ELECTIONS or play this silly ass anti gay bull shit game?
Grow up and some STONES you milk weak sissies. LINE IT UP and let's go kick some Democratic ASS.
I was born a winner and hate to lose. Get over this silly ass BULL SHIT of gay this and that.
These bills are nothing more than a waste of time.


Feel free to pull your head out of your ass, the gay bogeyman is entirely a creation of bigots and assholes.
 

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