Are you okay with Border States Sending Illegal Immigrants to NYC, DC, and Martha's Vineyard?

[pknopp]

Mexico, central america, some countries in south america. Corruption, bad economies, cartels abound.

Maybe we should stop trying to undermine those countries.

New Report Documents How U.S. Sanctions Have Directly Aggravated Venezuela’s Economic Crisis - WOLA

 

[Lesh]

Thats not my opinion. Thats what happens.

Anecdotal bullshit extrapolated into what you call facts based on your limited perception is at BEST opinion

 

[Papageorgio]

Nobody wants to address the reasons they come to this country. Jobs.

That is called enforcing the laws. We are not serious about the issue and maybe these governors across this country wopill enforce illegal immigration laws and find them, prosecute employers and round up illegals and ship them back to the countries that came from. Democrats and Republicans share the blame for blame each other and not taking responsibility. They don’t want a solution, they want to blame.

 

[Papageorgio]

Nor did they come from Florida

Link?

 

[pknopp]

That is called enforcing the laws. We are not serious about the issue and maybe these governors across this country wopill enforce illegal immigration laws and find them, prosecute employers and round up illegals and ship them back to the countries that came from.

Governors can not ship anyone out of the country.

Democrats and Republicans share the blame for blame each other and not taking responsibility. They don’t want a solution, they want to blame.

100% agree here.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Maybe we should stop trying to undermine those countries.

New Report Documents How U.S. Sanctions Have Directly Aggravated Venezuela’s Economic Crisis - WOLA

We sanction the world. We rule over everything. Why wouldn't we be down there. We've been doing this for decades.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Anecdotal bullshit extrapolated into what you call facts based on your limited perception is at BEST opinion

No, it ain't anecdotal dude. I wish it were.

 

[pknopp]

We sanction the world. We rule over everything. Why wouldn't we be down there. We've been doing this for decades.

And we see where it has gotten us.

You complain about the corruption when in large part, we are the corruption.

 

[SweetTea]

Anecdotal bullshit extrapolated into what you call facts based on your limited perception is at BEST opinion

We can resolve that problem by simply diverting some federal funding from Texas and FL to places like Martha’s Vineyard. I am sure FL and Texas would be in agreement, but I am thinking Martha’s Vineyard residents would reject the gift. We can create shelters and soup kitchens for illegals there. Afterall, the 80% liberal folks that live there are warm-hearted and certainly wouldn’t oppose such actions, right? We can do the same for all cities that claim to love illegals and call themselves sanctuary cities.

Democrats LOVE all policies, no matter how implausible, that give them the warm fuzzies, as long as they don’t have to deal with the consequences.

 

[Papageorgio]

Governors can not ship anyone out of the country.




100% agree here.

The feds can but that would require action by a real leader and our country has lacked that for decades.

 

[Coyote]

How revealing is the MV debacle?

THIS bad for them folks...

Not as revealing as your ripping children from their parents arms.

 

[Coyote]

I (and probably all of us) know the point they're trying to make here. I do get it. I agree with parts of it. But sometimes we have to find a bottom to our behaviors. Sometimes we need to just not do something because we want to be better than that. There is no "we tried everything". That's lazy-minded bullshit.

Since we know that the folks on this board are more and more representative of the base of the party, and we regularly see these tragically desperate brown people referred to here as things like subhuman and cockroaches (examples would not be hard to find), we know that the base has just lost its fundamental humanity.

They feel that they have "lost their country" and now are willing to "fight" until we're rubble. What they don't want to face is the possibility that the reason they've "lost" (not true) is that they failed to convince. Why? Because they have been reduced to incurious, manipulated, angry souls who only know to spout shallow talk radio platitudes rather than communicate effectively.

We all lose when a wheel falls off the bike. All of us.

Well said.

Is there a bottom?

 

[Coyote]

Trump broke YOU, Mac.

Not us.

you. You took the sledgehammer to the bike when he was elected. YOU could have just waited another four years and elected someone else.

But nope. Not good enough.

It's on you, Mac. Look in the freaking mirror.

And then start with the fact that you still think we "love our country".

We did elect some one else, and look what you did.

We and we suffered four years of you doing everything possible to destroy Obama's administration.

 

[OldFlame]

They aren't illegals....they are legal refugees from COMMUNIST Venezuela. DO try to pay attention....(I know it's hard).

So, serious question, should the US take in all of Venezuela's people? How about China's, they're communist as well, North Korea? Should we go into each communist nation, and offer a free ticket to the US? What should be the number of 'refugees' the US takes in every year, should there be a limit, or just as many as wants to come?

 

[pknopp]

So, serious question, should the US take in all of Venezuela's people? How about China's, they're communist as well, North Korea? Should we go into each communist nation, and offer a free ticket to the US? What should be the number of 'refugees' the US takes in every year, should there be a limit, or just as many as wants to come?

While Venezuela has a Communist party, they are not Communists.

 

[Coyote]

How revealing is the MV debacle?

THIS bad for them folks...

Yes, it is revealing isn't it? DeSantis using Florida taxpayer money to ship illegals in Texas to destinations clearly unprepared and caught by surprise. He dumped families with young children there. I was pretty impressed that those wealthy elites raised money, donated food, clothing and shelter for them with no notice at all. The fact you cheer this kind of makes your personal claims of doing so much to help them meaningless at best. These actions just go to show how you view them as subhuman, at worst. At best? Hard to see.

 

[Coyote]

So, serious question, should the US take in all of Venezuela's people? How about China's, they're communist as well, North Korea? Should we go into each communist nation, and offer a free ticket to the US? What should be the number of 'refugees' the US takes in every year, should there be a limit, or just as many as wants to come?

Doesn't DeSantis make speciL e ceptions for refugees from Communist Cuba because they are fleeing Communism?

 

[OldFlame]

They can't seem to understand the difference. Or the difference between organizing it with the appropriate departments amongst the states so they aren't just literally dumped in front of a politicians house with nothing but their clothes and maybe a ziplock bag of belongings

They are treating people like cattle for political gain. It's not their first rodeo - southern conservatives pulled that stunt before attacking the "hypocrisy" of northern liberals, and with the same callous disregard of the people they were using.

Fla. Sending Migrants North Evokes Memories of 1962 ‘Reverse Freedom Rides'

Wednesday’s unexpected arrival of dozens of undocumented immigrants, sent to Martha’s Vineyard from Florida under the order of Gov. Ron DeSantis, brought back vivid memories of a similar situation that unfolded on Cape Cod more than 60 years ago. In June of 1962, white supremacists in the South...

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Go to a border town and witness which party is using them like cattle for their own political gain. Now all of a sudden it's wrong to do what your 'party' has been doing for over a decade while you sat back and cheered it on. You have zero credibility.

 

[SweetSue92]

Not as revealing as your ripping children from their parents arms.

How desperate are you?

Claiming *I* did this.

Great call, moderator. Sure.

 

[lantern2814]

Yes, it is revealing isn't it? DeSantis using Florida taxpayer money to ship illegals in Texas to destinations clearly unprepared and caught by surprise. He dumped families with young children there. I was pretty impressed that those wealthy elites raised money, donated food, clothing and shelter for them with no notice at all. The fact you cheer this kind of makes your personal claims of doing so much to help them meaningless at best. These actions just go to show how you view them as subhuman, at worst. At best? Hard to see.

Pure bullshit and projection. Your side referred to those people as GARBAGE. Your side has shown nothing but hypocrisy and racism when forced to walk the walk rather than just talk the talk. Unprepared? These places claimed to be sanctuaries and would welcome these people. Oh wait, then they were actually held to their word.