Are you born gay?

[random3434]

If they are having sex with a gay person. How can you call them straight??

I have many gay friends. They tell me stories of having affairs with married men. There is a certain bar in this city where married men like to go to meet the men of their true calling. (the love that dare not speak it's name so to say)


A lot of these men have children with their wives, hmmm, so it's straight in public, gay in private I guess.

Wonder if the so called "gay bashers" on here have anything like that to hide?

 

[Anguille]

If they are having sex with a gay person. How can you call them straight??

Now I understand you, Sunni man. Because you are married to a woman, your sexual encounters with men don't make you gay or bi in your eyes.

My friend's father told his wife before they were married that he was sexually attracted to men. She mistakenly believed all he needed was the love of a good woman. After the birth of their last child he went back to having sex with men and eventually they divorced at which point he became openly gay.His son, being born in a later time, was less confused about his sexuality.

Crockmale is also ignorant of the fact that many homosexuals procreate via artificial insemination.

 

[Luissa]

I have many gay friends. They tell me stories of having affairs with married men. There is a certain bar in this city where married men like to go to meet the men of their true calling. (the love that dare not speak it's name so to say)


A lot of these men have children with their wives, hmmm, so it's straight in public, gay in private I guess.

Wonder if the so called "gay bashers" on here have anything like that to hide?

I come from a town where we had a gay republican mayor who was married before and vetoed a bill where the partners of gay workers could not recieve benefits.
He was actually not that bad of a guy once you got to know him but he had to hide who he was for such a long time he had to keep up the illusion.

 

[AllieBaba]

I have many gay friends. They tell me stories of having affairs with married men. There is a certain bar in this city where married men like to go to meet the men of their true calling. (the love that dare not speak it's name so to say)


A lot of these men have children with their wives, hmmm, so it's straight in public, gay in private I guess.

Wonder if the so called "gay bashers" on here have anything like that to hide?

I guess what you're trying to say is that it's a choice.

I agree.

 

[Anguille]

I thought gay people couldn't help it..in which case wouldn't they NOT be able to have straight sex?

Kaboom, there goes the argument. Again.

What a sheltered life you've led.

 

[AllieBaba]

Can't have it both ways, baby. Either they can't help it and they're born that way...or give up the argument and admit it's a choice.

If gays are having hetero sex, then it means they CHOOSE to have hetero sex, even though they're gay...which puts the kabosh to the whole "we don't have a choice" scenario. They're proving they have a choice when they choose to have hetero sex.

 

[dilloduck]

Can't have it both ways, baby. Either they can't help it and they're born that way...or give up the argument and admit it's a choice.

If gays are having hetero sex, then it means they CHOOSE to have hetero sex, even though they're gay...which puts the kabosh to the whole "we don't have a choice" scenario. They're proving they have a choice when they choose to have hetero sex.

They can fake it.

 

[AllieBaba]

Lol.

 

[Anguille]

Can't have it both ways, baby. Either they can't help it and they're born that way...or give up the argument and admit it's a choice.

If gays are having hetero sex, then it means they CHOOSE to have hetero sex, even though they're gay...which puts the kabosh to the whole "we don't have a choice" scenario. They're proving they have a choice when they choose to have hetero sex.

I would say that indicates bisexuality.

It also could indicate the desire to be a parent despite one one's sexual orientation.

Get it now, "baby"?

 

[glockmail]

So my gay friend's father, who was himself gay, could not have passed on a gay gene?
Whether or not a gay gerne exists, it is naive on your part to think gay people don't have sex with straight people.

That would make them bisexual, wouldn't it? Again, a choice.

 

[dilloduck]

I would say that indicates bisexuality.

It also could indicate the desire to be a parent despite one one's sexual orientation.

Get it now, "baby"?

Are people born bi-sexual ?

 

[glockmail]

I would say that indicates bisexuality.

It also could indicate the desire to be a parent despite one one's sexual orientation.

Get it now, "baby"?

Circular reasoning on your part.

 

[AllieBaba]

If it indicates desire to be a parent despite one's sexual orientation, how does that affect the "can't help it" argument? Because obviously, they CAN help it, and obviously, one can choose who one can be sexually intimate with.

I mean, I know it's a ridiculous argument, anyway, but I just like to hear those who claim it try to back it up...after essentially blowing their own argument out the window like the morons they are.

 

[Anguille]

Are people born bi-sexual ?

Sure, why not?

I do not know if people's sexuality is determined genetically but there is more and more evidence to support the idea that personality traits are linked to genes so it makes sense that sexuality is also. The thing is, is the old nature versus nurture argument still applies.

I think it is possible to become gay or straight when not born that way due to situational factors such as being raised in a strict anti gay society or a long term jail term or joining a convent or monastery.

Most gays I had discussed it with have told me that they knew they were gay at a very young age, before they even heard the word gay. As I know I was attracted to boys very early on, i think I know what they are talking about.

But as I said earlier I think most people fall somewhere on a spectrum between absolute homo versus heterosexuality and that very few people actually are completely one or the other. Not that people act on all their urges or even recognize it when they've experienced a momentary attraction to someone of the opposite sexuality to which they normally identify. But most people are bi sexual to some degree. Most people have at the very least had a childhood crush of some sorts on another child of the same sex. It's a normal thing.

 

[dilloduck]

Sure, why not?

I do not know if people's sexuality is determined genetically but there is more and more evidence to support the idea that personality traits are linked to genes so it makes sense that sexuality is also. The thing is, is the old nature versus nurture argument still applies.

I think it is possible to become gay or straight when not born that way due to situational factors such as being raised in a strict anti gay society or a long term jail term or joining a convent or monastery.

Most gays I had discussed it with have told me that they knew they were gay at a very young age, before they even heard the word gay. As I know I was attracted to boys very early on, i think I know what they are talking about.

But as I said earlier I think most people fall somewhere on a spectrum between absolute homo versus heterosexuality and that very few people actually are completely one or the other. Not that people act on all their urges or even recognize it when they've experienced a momentary attraction to someone of the opposite sexuality to which they normally identify. But most people are bi sexual to some degree. Most people have at the very least had a childhood crush of some sorts on another child of the same sex. It's a normal thing.

whew------glad we settled that-

 

[AllieBaba]

Yes, it's a choice.

 

[Anguille]

If it indicates desire to be a parent despite one's sexual orientation, how does that affect the "can't help it" argument? Because obviously, they CAN help it, and obviously, one can choose who one can be sexually intimate with.

I mean, I know it's a ridiculous argument, anyway, but I just like to hear those who claim it try to back it up...after essentially blowing their own argument out the window like the morons they are.

There are gay men who are able to get it up for women, such as my friends father. And others who are incapable. It takes imagination and an ability to suppress aversion.

Some gays are revolted by the thought of sex with a member of the opposite sex and some are not. Some enjoy both and they are bisexual.

 

[Anguille]

whew------glad we settled that-

It's pointless, I know, to try and educate narrrow minded provincials like Baba, but one should make an attempt.

 

[dilloduck]

There are gay men who are able to get it up for women, such as my friends father. And others who are incapable. It takes imagination and an ability to suppress aversion.

Some gays are revolted by the thought of sex with a member of the opposite sex and some are not. Some enjoy both and they are bisexual.

and bestiality ?

 

[Anguille]

and bestiality ?

LOL!

Allie would probably know more about that.