Are stop and ID laws constitutional?

[TNHarley]

I am referring to state laws where if you are stopped for any reason by a cop (whether you broke a law or not) you have to ID yourself.
How is that not a violation of your 4th amendment?

 

[pknopp]

Police can only ask for the ID card in public or a place open to public and only if there is a reasonable suspicion the person committed a crime. A certified copy of the ID card can be presented in such situations.

Stop and identify statutes - Wikipedia.

 

[shockedcanadian]

I am referring to state laws where if you are stopped for any reason by a cop (whether you broke a law or not) you have to ID yourself.
How is that not a violation of your 4th amendment?

I've never liked such approaches.

I've been the victim of such stop and frisks but it was an easy interaction as the police knew I was just going about my business. Thus, at the time as a youth I didnt care much.

As an adult with wisdom and an understanding or real fascism today and in history, I will never like nor support it. I applaud anyone who challenges such an approach in a courtroom.

If I am to support the police defending themselves sometimes with lethal force, I have to know that those same officers will protect MY rights as well when I am just going about my life.

 

[Donald H]

I am referring to state laws where if you are stopped for any reason by a cop (whether you broke a law or not) you have to ID yourself.
How is that not a violation of your 4th amendment?

The Trump regime has demonstrated that it has the power to make laws constitutional.

And too, convince the Scotus to uphold his decisions.

 

[Donald H]

I've never liked such approaches.

I've been the victim of such stop and frisks but it was an easy interaction and the police knew I was just going about my business. Thus, at the time as a youth I didnt care much.

As an adult with wisdom and an understanding or real fascism, I've never liked it and I support anyone who challenges such an approach in a courtroom.

This is not about you and it's again off topic to keep trying for sympathy for that which you are to blame.

 

[my2¢]

Our laws are reasonable.

 

[Meister]

The Trump regime has demonstrated that it has the power to make laws constitutional.

And too, convince the Scotus to uphold his decisions.

This is about STATE LAWS.
Try and keep up.

 

[TNHarley]

Police can only ask for the ID card in public or a place open to public and only if there is a reasonable suspicion the person committed a crime. A certified copy of the ID card can be presented in such situations.

Stop and identify statutes - Wikipedia.

Thanks for that, but I am referring to states in America. Not Portugal.

 

[TNHarley]

Our laws are reasonable.

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Unconstitutional laws are reasonable?

 

[pknopp]

Thanks for that, but I am referring to states in America. Not Portugal.

LOL, sorry about that. LOL.

If there is not reasonable suspicion that a person has committed a crime, is committing a crime, or is about to commit a crime, the person is not required to identify himself or herself, even in these states.

 

[TNHarley]

LOL, sorry about that. LOL.

If there is not reasonable suspicion that a person has committed a crime, is committing a crime, or is about to commit a crime, the person is not required to identify himself or herself, even in these states.

Lol it happens. And thanks

 

[my2¢]

Unconstitutional laws are reasonable?

The part that applies to me:

If you are driving and are pulled over by police, the officer can require you to show your license, vehicle registration and proof of insurance

That's how it is in Arizona and likely pretty standard across the country under their state laws.
Driving on a public road isn't a constitutional right.

 

[TNHarley]

The part that applies to me:

If you are driving and are pulled over by police, the officer can require you to show your license, vehicle registration and proof of insurance

That's how it is in Arizona and likely pretty standard across the country under their state laws.
Driving on a public road isn't a constitutional right.

Pulled over for an infraction.

 

[IM2]

The part that applies to me:

If you are driving and are pulled over by police, the officer can require you to show your license, vehicle registration and proof of insurance

That's how it is in Arizona and likely pretty standard across the country under their state laws.
Driving on a public road isn't a constitutional right.

But you do have rights in those circumstances

If you are stopped by police, here are your rights:

• Right to Remain Silent: You do not have to answer questions or provide identification unless you are being arrested.
• Right to Know Why You Are Being Stopped: You can ask the officer why you are being stopped.
• Right to Refuse Searches: You can refuse consent to a search of your person or belongings, but be aware that this may not prevent the officer from searching you.
• Right to Legal Representation: If you are arrested, you have the right to a government-appointed lawyer if you cannot afford one.
• Right to Record: You have the right to record the encounter, as long as you do not interfere with the police.
  
  For more detailed information, you can refer to the ACLU's guide on your rights when stopped by police.

Know Your Rights | Stopped by Police | ACLU

www.aclu.org