Are liberals becoming terrorists?

[freeandfun1]

Reports show that fringe groups are hatching a plot on the Internet, telling people how to attack and trick police with the ultimate goal of evacuating Madison Square Garden (search). The suggestions include everything from throwing marbles in the path of police-mounted horses to going to shooting ranges before heading to the convention so that their clothes will reek of gunpowder and trick bomb-sniffing dogs on the subways and commuter trains.

And these folks are doing this cuz they "care" about our country. Yes, let's confuse the dogs so a terrorist (proably a leftist not a Muslim) can sneak in a real bomb and kill some good ole republicans. yeah, that's the ticket.

And you liberals always claim the high ground. BULLSHIT!

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[acludem]

You lump all liberals in with these types, and I'll lump all conservatives in with Timothy McVeigh, and the Unabomber.

acludem

 

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by acludem
You lump all liberals in with these types, and I'll lump all conservatives in with Timothy McVeigh, and the Unabomber.

acludem

If we are talking citizens, I might agree.

If we are talking POLITICIANS, you are BOTH right.

 

[Avatar4321]

Im not sure i agree with your premise...I think there have been liberals who are terrorists since the 60s. I mean you didnt see Clinton Pardoning Conservative terrorists did you? (Out of curiosity how can you want to conserve the Constitution, rule of law, and American culture and be a terrorist?)

 

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by Avatar4321
Im not sure i agree with your premise...I think there have been liberals who are terrorists since the 60s. I mean you didnt see Clinton Pardoning Conservative terrorists did you? (Out of curiosity how can you want to conserve the Constitution, rule of law, and American culture and be a terrorist?)

If you are talking to me, I never claimed to be a terrorist. I miss your point.

 

[Avatar4321]

Originally posted by NewGuy
If you are talking to me, I never claimed to be a terrorist. I miss your point.

Uh...no...where on earth did you get the idea from my post that i was calling you a terrorist? Methinks you defend accusations that have not been made..which makes me suspicious. are you a terrorist? If you are please your name and address and the proper authorities will be by your home in the morning. but as i wasnt talking to you to begin with i dont see the point of saying anything else.

 

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by Avatar4321
Uh...no...where on earth did you get the idea from my post that i was calling you a terrorist? Methinks you defend accusations that have not been made..which makes me suspicious. are you a terrorist? If you are please your name and address and the proper authorities will be by your home in the morning. but as i wasnt talking to you to begin with i dont see the point of saying anything else.

No need to get all defensive.

You didn't adress your post, and it followed mine.

Don't say anything else.

I don't care.

 

[menewa]

This is a "fringe" group. Every demonstration I've been to always gives courses on civil disobedience and how to not lose your cool or get angry or hurl insults at police people who are simply doing their job. These anarchists hardly represent the feelings and actions of most demonstrators.

 

[HGROKIT]

Originally posted by Avatar4321
Im not sure i agree with your premise...I think there have been liberals who are terrorists since the 60s. I mean you didnt see Clinton Pardoning Conservative terrorists did you? (Out of curiosity how can you want to conserve the Constitution, rule of law, and American culture and be a terrorist?)

I ahve to agree with NewGuy on this one Avatar. Regardless of whom you were addressing your post to, in reading the thread, I cannot understand what your point is either...so now, you have my curiosity up as well and I haven't a clue what you are talking about.

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[Bullypulpit]

Originally posted by freeandfun1
And these folks are doing this cuz they "care" about our country. Yes, let's confuse the dogs so a terrorist (proably a leftist not a Muslim) can sneak in a real bomb and kill some good ole republicans. yeah, that's the ticket.

And you liberals always claim the high ground. BULLSHIT!

FULL STORY

I think, that if you read the header, it says "<b>Anarchists</b>" and not "Liberals". Your association of liberals with those dangerous waterheads is both unwarranted and unfounded. But that's a common tactic of the "Friends of Dubbyuh". Raise a straw man and knock it down...distract folks from the real issues, such as Dubbyuh's own moral bankruptcy.

 

[NATO AIR]

i'm fairly distressed by this topic, but i'm heartened by this: it looks like the liberals are going to party and celebrate with their interpertation of this nation's forefathers in NYC for the GOP convention, a very welcome change from the chaos and mean spirits in Philadelphia in 2000. i'd rather see the sides fight each other with humor, wit, satire and sarcasm than outright hatred or hostility.

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0427/resist.php

Meet the Resistance
Greene Dragon
Ready for the Revel-ution
July 2nd, 2004 4:00 PM

Group: Greene Dragon

Slogan: The American Revel-ution ("Greene Dragon invites all patriotic revelers to join the American Revel-ution, a fun and freewheeling independence movement from President-Select George II and his corporate monarchy.")

Purpose: According to "General" Jonny America, one of Greene Dragon's founders and organizers (and sometime magazine cover boy), "We go beyond conventional protesting. Everything we do is a celebration."

"We feel like our country has gotten away from its ideals," says Jonny. "We want to take democracy back from the corporations and give it to the people."

Formed last year at the Burning Man art festival, the group draws heavily on the iconography of the Founding Fathers; Their name comes from the tavern where the Boston Tea Party was planned and members can be found at most rallies dressed in a three-point hats (with feathers) and homemade red, white, and blue colonial costumes ("A lot of love goes into them.").

Events: On Sunday, July 4th at noon, Greene Dragon will host the signing of "The Declaration of Independence From George II," at the George Washington Statue at 26 Wall Street in lower Manhattan. The 30-foot scroll will "proclaim the people's independence from our current corporate monarchy, and offer a new vision of hope and government accountability for the future."

As for the RNC Convention, Greene Dragon will be "defending our city from Bush and the Bush loyalists who are coming to exploit our tragedy." Events planned include Paul Revere's Ride Down Lexington Avenue (with shouts of "The Republicans are coming! The Republicans are coming!"), the Crossing of New York Harbor, and the Valley Forge Voter Drives. They're also thinking beyond the Convention; "We have a dream of going down to Florida on election day to make sure every vote is heard," says Jonny.

Joining Up: Revelers are invited to pick up a quill and sign their John Hancocks on the Declaration on the Fourth. For more information, go to greenedragon.org or e-mail jonnyamerica@greenedragon.org.

 

[dilloduck]

Originally posted by Bullypulpit
I think, that if you read the header, it says "<b>Anarchists</b>" and not "Liberals". Your association of liberals with those dangerous waterheads is both unwarranted and unfounded. But that's a common tactic of the "Friends of Dubbyuh". Raise a straw man and knock it down...distract folks from the real issues, such as Dubbyuh's own moral bankruptcy.

So why do they decide to only do thier anarchist protest at the Reuplican convention?

 

[DKSuddeth]

Originally posted by Avatar4321
Im not sure i agree with your premise...I think there have been liberals who are terrorists since the 60s. I mean you didnt see Clinton Pardoning Conservative terrorists did you? (Out of curiosity how can you want to conserve the Constitution, rule of law, and American culture and be a terrorist?)

Its called 'militia'. our government has done it time and time again, brand a 'conservative' group (known as militia) that is all about protecting the constitution as a terrorist group.

 

[DKSuddeth]

Originally posted by dilloduck
So why do they decide to only do thier anarchist protest at the Reuplican convention?

because they feel that the republican party is a terrorist group?

 

[freeandfun1]

Originally posted by DKSuddeth
because they feel that the republican party is a terrorist group?

very simplistic view and a dishonest view.

(I see the question mark, but you and me both know it is a rhetorical question).

It is typical of the left to attack ourselves instead of the real enemies of the country. They are such a self loathing bunch!

 

[DKSuddeth]

Originally posted by freeandfun1
very simplistic view and a dishonest view.

(I see the question mark, but you and me both know it is a rhetorical question).

It is typical of the left to attack ourselves instead of the real enemies of the country. They are such a self loathing bunch!

well, its also very typical of the 'right' to brand ALL democrats and ALL liberals with the worst of the bunch yet cry, scream, whine, and wail as loud as possible when the 'left' does the same. I refer to another post of mine where I say I'm looking forward to clearing out the bullshit from the current government and getting back to where the spirit of law is what mattered.

 

[Annie]

Originally posted by DKSuddeth
well, its also very typical of the 'right' to brand ALL democrats and ALL liberals with the worst of the bunch yet cry, scream, whine, and wail as loud as possible when the 'left' does the same. I refer to another post of mine where I say I'm looking forward to clearing out the bullshit from the current government and getting back to where the spirit of law is what mattered.

You see hope in a Kerry victory of a 'clearing out' of bs, so the spirit of the law is what matters? Sort of back to Clinton?

 

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by DKSuddeth
well, its also very typical of the 'right' to brand ALL democrats and ALL liberals with the worst of the bunch yet cry, scream, whine, and wail as loud as possible when the 'left' does the same. I refer to another post of mine where I say I'm looking forward to clearing out the bullshit from the current government and getting back to where the spirit of law is what mattered.

And it is exactly what all the politicians do to get yo uto miss all of the deals going on between parties, the gradual move by both to socialism, and the fact they are flip sides of the same coin who just further deteriorate your liberties every election.

Your simple choice:

Do you want to lose by way of a police state this time?

OR

Do you want to lose by way of social programs this time?

That is the position they put us in. Not realizing this pits us against each other quarreling over FALSE IMAGE OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING in exchange for knowing they are robbing us of all power and freedom over them and laughing all the way.

 

[DKSuddeth]

Originally posted by Kathianne
You see hope in a Kerry victory of a 'clearing out' of bs, so the spirit of the law is what matters? Sort of back to Clinton?

you lost me on that. I was speaking of the hypocrisy from both sides and the inevitable argument of who started what, then the general grouping of all into the worst. If I mentioned Kerry in there, please point it out to me, same with Clinton.

 

[DKSuddeth]

Originally posted by NewGuy
And it is exactly what all the politicians do to get yo uto miss all of the deals going on between parties, the gradual move by both to socialism, and the fact they are flip sides of the same coin who just further deteriorate your liberties every election.

Your simple choice:

Do you want to lose by way of a police state this time?

OR

Do you want to lose by way of social programs this time?

That is the position they put us in. Not realizing this pits us against each other quarreling over FALSE IMAGE OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING in exchange for knowing they are robbing us of all power and freedom over them and laughing all the way.

and yet those of us (you and I, as well as some others) point this out, we're looney nutcases with conspiracy theories. Sad state, is it not?