Are Atheists Delusional?

[progressive hunter]

Yes, cookies are fact, too.
But people didn't originate from cookies. Just because we have seen species evolve doesn't mean evolution created life. Two different things, but atheist dingbats can't wrap their tiny inds around that reality.

The Theory of Evolution does have anything to do with the origin of life. It never has.

WTF????????

thats exactly what its about since the creation of life is kinda the beginning of everything

No. Those of faith ponder the 'beginning of everything' question. Evolution does not. The Big Bang is an entirely different theory. You're out of your element, Donnie.

the big bang says nothing exploded and created everything

how do you prove that???

The Big Bang theory claims that nothing exploded? No. That is not what it says.

thats exactly what it says

 

[progressive hunter]

because they are teaching lies about the origins of man

Evolution is a FACT
God is a Theory

sorry evolution is a religion

and god is faith

There is more evidence to support the Theory of Evolution than any other explanation.

nones ever been presented,,,maybe you would like to try???

You are the first on these forums, that I have seen, that wants to deny that the Colorado River carved the Grand Canyon. Why do you think the Grand Canyon was not carved by a river? We can see it still happening. We can measure it.

water doesnt run uphill 6K miles,,,

 

[rightwinger]

Delusional?

Like believing in a magical creature in the sky?

who said god was in the sky???or that he is magical???

and all religion is taught on faith not absolute fact

Thus delusional

not compared to all life came from a rock

The Bible says we were created out of ashes

Science!

 

[rightwinger]

because they are teaching lies about the origins of man

Evolution is a FACT
God is a Theory

sorry evolution is a religion

and god is faith

There is more evidence to support the Theory of Evolution than any other explanation.

nones ever been presented,,,maybe you would like to try???

You are the first on these forums, that I have seen, that wants to deny that the Colorado River carved the Grand Canyon. Why do you think the Grand Canyon was not carved by a river? We can see it still happening. We can measure it.

God did it

 

[progressive hunter]

because they are teaching lies about the origins of man

Evolution is a FACT
God is a Theory

sorry evolution is a religion

and god is faith

There is more evidence to support the Theory of Evolution than any other explanation.

nones ever been presented,,,maybe you would like to try???

You are the first on these forums, that I have seen, that wants to deny that the Colorado River carved the Grand Canyon. Why do you think the Grand Canyon was not carved by a river? We can see it still happening. We can measure it.

 

[progressive hunter]

Delusional?

Like believing in a magical creature in the sky?

who said god was in the sky???or that he is magical???

and all religion is taught on faith not absolute fact

Thus delusional

not compared to all life came from a rock

The Bible says we were created out of ashes

Science!

YOUR CHANGING THE SUBJECT

we all know religion is based on faith

 

[WinterBorn]

"Allowed"? There's not a thing you can do about the delusions of others, fascist.

but there is a lot we can do about outright lies

They're not lies. Only differences of opinion. The delusional can't seem to comprehend this.

well some of them are admitted lies like gil slits,nebraska man, lucy,piltdown man and others proven lies like the fossil record, geological column

Gill slits are not lies.

Nebraska Man was a name invented by the press, not scientists.

Lucy was a scientific discovery. Are you saying that they did not find the bones? Or are you saying they lied when they claimed they were neither human nor ape?

And does the Colorado River carving the Grand Canyon over millions of year come into the "lies" thing too?

lets break this down

the gil slit issue was done by a guy named ernst hearkel where he later admitted in a trial at his own university he admitted that he fabricated them with fake drawings because he was trying to create proof of evolution
this is still taught as fact

why you only focus on who named him and ignored the issue itself speaks volumes,,,let me educate you

nebraska man was a name given to a tooth found in nebraska that was made into a full grown ape human hybrid,,,
the problem is that iot was later found out to be a pigs tooth

so how do you go from a tooth to a full grown apeman???

YOU LIE!!!


AND LUCY HAS THE SAME PROBLEMS AS NEBRASKA MAN
its just they found a few more bones,,,some of those bones were found a mile away and hundred feet deeper
from that they made another full grown apeman
google the bones and then the likeness they erected and tell me how???
I call BULLSHIT

as for the grand canyon,,,

first explain how water runs up hill???

cause the top of it is 6K feet higher than the bottom

its a breached dam that was made in a few weeks at most

So the grand canyon was created by drainage from Noah's flood? Despite the fact that there is not enough water on the planet to cover the entire surface. And despite the fact that other cultures that existed at the same time as the flood have no mention of it in their legends and history?

As for the problems with Lucy and other reconstructed hominids, there are certain constants in biology. Not every bone must be present. If you find a human skeleton with one full set of arm bones, are you going to assume he only had one arm? Or will you use the one you have to make the opposite arm match?

 

[alang1216]

First, they have taken over secular science and systematically eliminated God as creator and origin of the universe and everything in it. They claim that all of it happened naturally when space and time cannot start by itself. They believe in false science and are delusional, but have convinced others to follow their thinking and path. Yet, they cannot explain how spacetime, the universe, Earth and life started without contradictions. They think DNA popped up by itself. They think the universe popped up from invisible particles. They can't explain Earth's habitability, so think multiverses exist so Earth is mediocre and not special. They claim "mountains of evidence" and their science is fact when we can't see it, test it nor falsify it. You might know some people on this board that fits this description. They want evidence of the truth and when they get it, they deny it or do not believe it. They end believing in false teachers like Neil DeGrasse Tyson or Bill Nye. How far should their delusions be allowed?

In my life I have NEVER encountered anything that was demonstrably supernatural. There are plenty of things I can't explain but that is very different. When someone shows me something the natural world could not have produced, then I'll be open to the supernatural. Until them it seems like all religions are telling me to believe in them and not my own eyes.

 

[progressive hunter]

but there is a lot we can do about outright lies

They're not lies. Only differences of opinion. The delusional can't seem to comprehend this.

well some of them are admitted lies like gil slits,nebraska man, lucy,piltdown man and others proven lies like the fossil record, geological column

Gill slits are not lies.

Nebraska Man was a name invented by the press, not scientists.

Lucy was a scientific discovery. Are you saying that they did not find the bones? Or are you saying they lied when they claimed they were neither human nor ape?

And does the Colorado River carving the Grand Canyon over millions of year come into the "lies" thing too?

lets break this down

the gil slit issue was done by a guy named ernst hearkel where he later admitted in a trial at his own university he admitted that he fabricated them with fake drawings because he was trying to create proof of evolution
this is still taught as fact

why you only focus on who named him and ignored the issue itself speaks volumes,,,let me educate you

nebraska man was a name given to a tooth found in nebraska that was made into a full grown ape human hybrid,,,
the problem is that iot was later found out to be a pigs tooth

so how do you go from a tooth to a full grown apeman???

YOU LIE!!!


AND LUCY HAS THE SAME PROBLEMS AS NEBRASKA MAN
its just they found a few more bones,,,some of those bones were found a mile away and hundred feet deeper
from that they made another full grown apeman
google the bones and then the likeness they erected and tell me how???
I call BULLSHIT

as for the grand canyon,,,

first explain how water runs up hill???

cause the top of it is 6K feet higher than the bottom

its a breached dam that was made in a few weeks at most

So the grand canyon was created by drainage from Noah's flood? Despite the fact that there is not enough water on the planet to cover the entire surface. And despite the fact that other cultures that existed at the same time as the flood have no mention of it in their legends and history?

As for the problems with Lucy and other reconstructed hominids, there are certain constants in biology. Not every bone must be present. If you find a human skeleton with one full set of arm bones, are you going to assume he only had one arm? Or will you use the one you have to make the opposite arm match?

yyour comebacks are classic bullshit

as per the noah claims the waters of the deep broke open,,and if you were educated you would know that there is as much water under the surface as above,,,and if the claims were also true the mountains didnt exist until after, in which there is plenty of water to cover the earth


and ONE ARM???

come one you can do better than that

what I'm saying is you cant know what anything looked like with one tooth or 25? bones

only fabrication with a presupposed goal in mind can do that

 

[WinterBorn]

The Theory of Evolution does have anything to do with the origin of life. It never has.

WTF????????

thats exactly what its about since the creation of life is kinda the beginning of everything

No. Those of faith ponder the 'beginning of everything' question. Evolution does not. The Big Bang is an entirely different theory. You're out of your element, Donnie.

the big bang says nothing exploded and created everything

how do you prove that???

The Big Bang theory claims that nothing exploded? No. That is not what it says.

thats exactly what it says

No it does not. It states that matter and energy existed and exploded. The idea that everything must have a beginning is nonsense. In fact, the current scientific theories are leaning towards the Big Bang not even being the first cosmic explosion. Matter and energy are expanding outward from the big bang. At some point they will slow and stop. Then begin to collapse back again. When enough material and energy collapses back, it will go bang again.

No where in the Big Bang Theory is there a claim that there was nothing (no energy, no matter) before the big bang.

 

[WinterBorn]

They're not lies. Only differences of opinion. The delusional can't seem to comprehend this.

well some of them are admitted lies like gil slits,nebraska man, lucy,piltdown man and others proven lies like the fossil record, geological column

Gill slits are not lies.

Nebraska Man was a name invented by the press, not scientists.

Lucy was a scientific discovery. Are you saying that they did not find the bones? Or are you saying they lied when they claimed they were neither human nor ape?

And does the Colorado River carving the Grand Canyon over millions of year come into the "lies" thing too?

lets break this down

the gil slit issue was done by a guy named ernst hearkel where he later admitted in a trial at his own university he admitted that he fabricated them with fake drawings because he was trying to create proof of evolution
this is still taught as fact

why you only focus on who named him and ignored the issue itself speaks volumes,,,let me educate you

nebraska man was a name given to a tooth found in nebraska that was made into a full grown ape human hybrid,,,
the problem is that iot was later found out to be a pigs tooth

so how do you go from a tooth to a full grown apeman???

YOU LIE!!!


AND LUCY HAS THE SAME PROBLEMS AS NEBRASKA MAN
its just they found a few more bones,,,some of those bones were found a mile away and hundred feet deeper
from that they made another full grown apeman
google the bones and then the likeness they erected and tell me how???
I call BULLSHIT

as for the grand canyon,,,

first explain how water runs up hill???

cause the top of it is 6K feet higher than the bottom

its a breached dam that was made in a few weeks at most

So the grand canyon was created by drainage from Noah's flood? Despite the fact that there is not enough water on the planet to cover the entire surface. And despite the fact that other cultures that existed at the same time as the flood have no mention of it in their legends and history?

As for the problems with Lucy and other reconstructed hominids, there are certain constants in biology. Not every bone must be present. If you find a human skeleton with one full set of arm bones, are you going to assume he only had one arm? Or will you use the one you have to make the opposite arm match?

yyour comebacks are classic bullshit

as per the noah claims the waters of the deep broke open,,and if you were educated you would know that there is as much water under the surface as above,,,and if the claims were also true the mountains didnt exist until after, in which there is plenty of water to cover the earth


and ONE ARM???

come one you can do better than that

what I'm saying is you cant know what anything looked like with one tooth or 25? bones

only fabrication with a presupposed goal in mind can do that

So all the mountains on the planet rose up in the last few thousand years? Not only that, but they radically changed the rate at which they rise, so that the slower rate of rising we can measure today would fool us? LMAO!!

And I guess you buy into that 6 million year old planet? And that men & dinosaurs co-existed?

 

[progressive hunter]

WTF????????

thats exactly what its about since the creation of life is kinda the beginning of everything

No. Those of faith ponder the 'beginning of everything' question. Evolution does not. The Big Bang is an entirely different theory. You're out of your element, Donnie.

the big bang says nothing exploded and created everything

how do you prove that???

The Big Bang theory claims that nothing exploded? No. That is not what it says.

thats exactly what it says

No it does not. It states that matter and energy existed and exploded. The idea that everything must have a beginning is nonsense. In fact, the current scientific theories are leaning towards the Big Bang not even being the first cosmic explosion. Matter and energy are expanding outward from the big bang. At some point they will slow and stop. Then begin to collapse back again. When enough material and energy collapses back, it will go bang again.

No where in the Big Bang Theory is there a claim that there was nothing (no energy, no matter) before the big bang.

later I ill find the article that claims the BB was started with something smaller than the dot on this page


I'd like to see your material on that

 

[progressive hunter]

well some of them are admitted lies like gil slits,nebraska man, lucy,piltdown man and others proven lies like the fossil record, geological column

Gill slits are not lies.

Nebraska Man was a name invented by the press, not scientists.

Lucy was a scientific discovery. Are you saying that they did not find the bones? Or are you saying they lied when they claimed they were neither human nor ape?

And does the Colorado River carving the Grand Canyon over millions of year come into the "lies" thing too?

lets break this down

the gil slit issue was done by a guy named ernst hearkel where he later admitted in a trial at his own university he admitted that he fabricated them with fake drawings because he was trying to create proof of evolution
this is still taught as fact

why you only focus on who named him and ignored the issue itself speaks volumes,,,let me educate you

nebraska man was a name given to a tooth found in nebraska that was made into a full grown ape human hybrid,,,
the problem is that iot was later found out to be a pigs tooth

so how do you go from a tooth to a full grown apeman???

YOU LIE!!!


AND LUCY HAS THE SAME PROBLEMS AS NEBRASKA MAN
its just they found a few more bones,,,some of those bones were found a mile away and hundred feet deeper
from that they made another full grown apeman
google the bones and then the likeness they erected and tell me how???
I call BULLSHIT

as for the grand canyon,,,

first explain how water runs up hill???

cause the top of it is 6K feet higher than the bottom

its a breached dam that was made in a few weeks at most

So the grand canyon was created by drainage from Noah's flood? Despite the fact that there is not enough water on the planet to cover the entire surface. And despite the fact that other cultures that existed at the same time as the flood have no mention of it in their legends and history?

As for the problems with Lucy and other reconstructed hominids, there are certain constants in biology. Not every bone must be present. If you find a human skeleton with one full set of arm bones, are you going to assume he only had one arm? Or will you use the one you have to make the opposite arm match?

yyour comebacks are classic bullshit

as per the noah claims the waters of the deep broke open,,and if you were educated you would know that there is as much water under the surface as above,,,and if the claims were also true the mountains didnt exist until after, in which there is plenty of water to cover the earth


and ONE ARM???

come one you can do better than that

what I'm saying is you cant know what anything looked like with one tooth or 25? bones

only fabrication with a presupposed goal in mind can do that

So all the mountains on the planet rose up in the last few thousand years? Not only that, but they radically changed the rate at which they rise, so that the slower rate of rising we can measure today would fool us? LMAO!!

And I guess you buy into that 6 million year old planet? And that men & dinosaurs co-existed?

if men didnt see dinos then why all the pictures,sculptures paintings and written accounts about them

and who exactly talked to every human that ever lived to know no one has ever seen them

 

[Hollie]

Evolution is a FACT
God is a Theory

sorry evolution is a religion

and god is faith

There is more evidence to support the Theory of Evolution than any other explanation.

nones ever been presented,,,maybe you would like to try???

You are the first on these forums, that I have seen, that wants to deny that the Colorado River carved the Grand Canyon. Why do you think the Grand Canyon was not carved by a river? We can see it still happening. We can measure it.

A YouTube video from a fundamentalist ministry?

You may be offended by facts but .....


CH581: Carving the Grand Canyon

A Critique of ICR's Grand Canyon Dating Project

 

[progressive hunter]

sorry evolution is a religion

and god is faith

There is more evidence to support the Theory of Evolution than any other explanation.

nones ever been presented,,,maybe you would like to try???

You are the first on these forums, that I have seen, that wants to deny that the Colorado River carved the Grand Canyon. Why do you think the Grand Canyon was not carved by a river? We can see it still happening. We can measure it.

A YouTube video from a fundamentalist ministry?

You may be offended by facts but .....


CH581: Carving the Grand Canyon

thats 100% speculation that cant be proven

but the other can and has been observed and replicated thousands of times

and yours doesnt explain how water ran uphill 6K feet to start the erosion

 

[WinterBorn]

Gill slits are not lies.

Nebraska Man was a name invented by the press, not scientists.

Lucy was a scientific discovery. Are you saying that they did not find the bones? Or are you saying they lied when they claimed they were neither human nor ape?

And does the Colorado River carving the Grand Canyon over millions of year come into the "lies" thing too?

lets break this down

the gil slit issue was done by a guy named ernst hearkel where he later admitted in a trial at his own university he admitted that he fabricated them with fake drawings because he was trying to create proof of evolution
this is still taught as fact

why you only focus on who named him and ignored the issue itself speaks volumes,,,let me educate you

nebraska man was a name given to a tooth found in nebraska that was made into a full grown ape human hybrid,,,
the problem is that iot was later found out to be a pigs tooth

so how do you go from a tooth to a full grown apeman???

YOU LIE!!!


AND LUCY HAS THE SAME PROBLEMS AS NEBRASKA MAN
its just they found a few more bones,,,some of those bones were found a mile away and hundred feet deeper
from that they made another full grown apeman
google the bones and then the likeness they erected and tell me how???
I call BULLSHIT

as for the grand canyon,,,

first explain how water runs up hill???

cause the top of it is 6K feet higher than the bottom

its a breached dam that was made in a few weeks at most

So the grand canyon was created by drainage from Noah's flood? Despite the fact that there is not enough water on the planet to cover the entire surface. And despite the fact that other cultures that existed at the same time as the flood have no mention of it in their legends and history?

As for the problems with Lucy and other reconstructed hominids, there are certain constants in biology. Not every bone must be present. If you find a human skeleton with one full set of arm bones, are you going to assume he only had one arm? Or will you use the one you have to make the opposite arm match?

yyour comebacks are classic bullshit

as per the noah claims the waters of the deep broke open,,and if you were educated you would know that there is as much water under the surface as above,,,and if the claims were also true the mountains didnt exist until after, in which there is plenty of water to cover the earth


and ONE ARM???

come one you can do better than that

what I'm saying is you cant know what anything looked like with one tooth or 25? bones

only fabrication with a presupposed goal in mind can do that

So all the mountains on the planet rose up in the last few thousand years? Not only that, but they radically changed the rate at which they rise, so that the slower rate of rising we can measure today would fool us? LMAO!!

And I guess you buy into that 6 million year old planet? And that men & dinosaurs co-existed?

if men didnt see dinos then why all the pictures,sculptures paintings and written accounts about them

and who exactly talked to every human that ever lived to know no one has ever seen them

They found bones.

 

[progressive hunter]

lets break this down

the gil slit issue was done by a guy named ernst hearkel where he later admitted in a trial at his own university he admitted that he fabricated them with fake drawings because he was trying to create proof of evolution
this is still taught as fact

why you only focus on who named him and ignored the issue itself speaks volumes,,,let me educate you

nebraska man was a name given to a tooth found in nebraska that was made into a full grown ape human hybrid,,,
the problem is that iot was later found out to be a pigs tooth

so how do you go from a tooth to a full grown apeman???

YOU LIE!!!


AND LUCY HAS THE SAME PROBLEMS AS NEBRASKA MAN
its just they found a few more bones,,,some of those bones were found a mile away and hundred feet deeper
from that they made another full grown apeman
google the bones and then the likeness they erected and tell me how???
I call BULLSHIT

as for the grand canyon,,,

first explain how water runs up hill???

cause the top of it is 6K feet higher than the bottom

its a breached dam that was made in a few weeks at most

So the grand canyon was created by drainage from Noah's flood? Despite the fact that there is not enough water on the planet to cover the entire surface. And despite the fact that other cultures that existed at the same time as the flood have no mention of it in their legends and history?

As for the problems with Lucy and other reconstructed hominids, there are certain constants in biology. Not every bone must be present. If you find a human skeleton with one full set of arm bones, are you going to assume he only had one arm? Or will you use the one you have to make the opposite arm match?

yyour comebacks are classic bullshit

as per the noah claims the waters of the deep broke open,,and if you were educated you would know that there is as much water under the surface as above,,,and if the claims were also true the mountains didnt exist until after, in which there is plenty of water to cover the earth


and ONE ARM???

come one you can do better than that

what I'm saying is you cant know what anything looked like with one tooth or 25? bones

only fabrication with a presupposed goal in mind can do that

So all the mountains on the planet rose up in the last few thousand years? Not only that, but they radically changed the rate at which they rise, so that the slower rate of rising we can measure today would fool us? LMAO!!

And I guess you buy into that 6 million year old planet? And that men & dinosaurs co-existed?

if men didnt see dinos then why all the pictures,sculptures paintings and written accounts about them

and who exactly talked to every human that ever lived to know no one has ever seen them

They found bones.

and thats it,,,nothing about how they lived, where they lived, hat they looked like,or even how they died

they just found bones that indicate something or someone died

 

[WinterBorn]

So the grand canyon was created by drainage from Noah's flood? Despite the fact that there is not enough water on the planet to cover the entire surface. And despite the fact that other cultures that existed at the same time as the flood have no mention of it in their legends and history?

As for the problems with Lucy and other reconstructed hominids, there are certain constants in biology. Not every bone must be present. If you find a human skeleton with one full set of arm bones, are you going to assume he only had one arm? Or will you use the one you have to make the opposite arm match?

yyour comebacks are classic bullshit

as per the noah claims the waters of the deep broke open,,and if you were educated you would know that there is as much water under the surface as above,,,and if the claims were also true the mountains didnt exist until after, in which there is plenty of water to cover the earth


and ONE ARM???

come one you can do better than that

what I'm saying is you cant know what anything looked like with one tooth or 25? bones

only fabrication with a presupposed goal in mind can do that

So all the mountains on the planet rose up in the last few thousand years? Not only that, but they radically changed the rate at which they rise, so that the slower rate of rising we can measure today would fool us? LMAO!!

And I guess you buy into that 6 million year old planet? And that men & dinosaurs co-existed?

if men didnt see dinos then why all the pictures,sculptures paintings and written accounts about them

and who exactly talked to every human that ever lived to know no one has ever seen them

They found bones.

and thats it,,,nothing about how they lived, where they lived, hat they looked like,or even how they died

they just found bones that indicate something or someone died

And those same people had seen horses and horse skeletons. So fleshing put a skeleton in their imagination is not a stretch.

And yes, there are legends of giant beasts. But none of those sculptures or paintings look like what scientific recreation of dinosaurs do.

 

[progressive hunter]

yyour comebacks are classic bullshit

as per the noah claims the waters of the deep broke open,,and if you were educated you would know that there is as much water under the surface as above,,,and if the claims were also true the mountains didnt exist until after, in which there is plenty of water to cover the earth


and ONE ARM???

come one you can do better than that

what I'm saying is you cant know what anything looked like with one tooth or 25? bones

only fabrication with a presupposed goal in mind can do that

So all the mountains on the planet rose up in the last few thousand years? Not only that, but they radically changed the rate at which they rise, so that the slower rate of rising we can measure today would fool us? LMAO!!

And I guess you buy into that 6 million year old planet? And that men & dinosaurs co-existed?

if men didnt see dinos then why all the pictures,sculptures paintings and written accounts about them

and who exactly talked to every human that ever lived to know no one has ever seen them

They found bones.

and thats it,,,nothing about how they lived, where they lived, hat they looked like,or even how they died

they just found bones that indicate something or someone died

And those same people had seen horses and horse skeletons. So fleshing put a skeleton in their imagination is not a stretch.

And yes, there are legends of giant beasts. But none of those sculptures or paintings look like what scientific recreation of dinosaurs do.

how they did it is a stretch if you can make a human out of a pigs tooth

and you need to broaden your education because a lot of old draws exactly resemble known dinos and what about written accounts???

almost every old civilization has records describing them,

 

[WinterBorn]

So all the mountains on the planet rose up in the last few thousand years? Not only that, but they radically changed the rate at which they rise, so that the slower rate of rising we can measure today would fool us? LMAO!!

And I guess you buy into that 6 million year old planet? And that men & dinosaurs co-existed?

if men didnt see dinos then why all the pictures,sculptures paintings and written accounts about them

and who exactly talked to every human that ever lived to know no one has ever seen them

They found bones.

and thats it,,,nothing about how they lived, where they lived, hat they looked like,or even how they died

they just found bones that indicate something or someone died

And those same people had seen horses and horse skeletons. So fleshing put a skeleton in their imagination is not a stretch.

And yes, there are legends of giant beasts. But none of those sculptures or paintings look like what scientific recreation of dinosaurs do.

how they did it is a stretch if you can make a human out of a pigs tooth

and you need to broaden your education because a lot of old draws exactly resemble known dinos and what about written accounts???

almost every old civilization has records describing them,

Odd that you dismiss cultures not having an account of the flood, but you use ancient cultures to prove your idea that man & dinosaurs lived at the same time.

But if Genesis is a historical account, all people descended from Adam & Eve?