Zone1 Arab Christians pray to Allah, because Allah is the Arab word for God

[The Irish Ram]

Arab Christians call the Christian God also Allah

Set a Bible beside the Koran. If they are the same, then you should be able to find, Kill all infidels, in the Tanakh, the NT, Buddhism, Hinduism.

Show me they are all the same...

 

[The Irish Ram]

Arab Christians call the Christian God also Allah

Then they are not Christians. We call the Christian God, the God of Abraham. I've been a Christian all my life and never once directed a prayer to Allah. Allah the exact opposite of the God that Christ calls Abba.

 

[toobfreak]

Set a Bible beside the Koran. If they are the same, then you should be able to find, Kill all infidels, in the Tanakh, the NT, Buddhism, Hinduism.

To be fair Ram, this killing of the infidels comes from the radicalization of Islam, taking phrases literally that were intended spiritually, somewhat similar to how the Catholic church used a few words taken from a single line of the Bible as basis to burn people alive (like Giordano Bruno) and confine Galileo to his home for life burning all of his books, because he dared suggest that the Earth was NOT the center of the universe.

Yet, all the clerics had to do was look through his telescope to see the proof in what he said.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Yahweh is used over 7,000 times in the OT. Adonai, I Am, Eloha, El Shaddai...
You have over 50 names for God, each showing a characteristic of the God of Abraham. No matter what you call Him, they all lead back to the same God. Christ called Him Daddy. God called Himself, I AM.

 

[The Irish Ram]

To be fair Ram, this killing of the infidels comes from the radicalization of Islam, taking phrases literally that were intended spiritually, somewhat similar to how the Catholic church used a few words taken from a single line of the Bible as basis to burn people alive (like Giordano Bruno) and confine Galileo to his home for life burning all of his books, because he dared suggest that the Earth was NOT the center of the universe.

Yet, all the clerics had to do was look through his telescope to see the proof in what he said.

I don't know, toob, the Koran has been the Muslim Bible since 650 AD. And their joy at killing Jews and Christians has always been brutal. The more pain, the better. I don't think they were ever a peaceful religion.
Catholics are a separate matter...

 

[toobfreak]

I don't know, toob, the Koran has been the Muslim Bible since 650 AD. And their joy at killing Jews and Christians has always been brutal. The more pain, the better. I don't think they were ever a peaceful religion.
Catholics are a separate matter...

Well, I've seriously studied maybe a half dozen religions including Christianity first of course, but I confess I've never been attracted to muslim beliefs. So years ago, I relented and bought a book called 'The Complete Infidels Guide To The Koran' by Spencer. It 'splained everything to me.

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[BreezeWood]

- has never existed than in the mind of the demented deceiver and those that reward themselves knowingly giving veracity where there is non.

Actually, I believe the life of Abraham as a real man who lived long ago has been historically conceded by scholars, just as has the life of Mohammad.

- provide the physical proof of the liar abraham's claim to have been spoken to by the heavens or remove them from all three desert bibles. and all the other phonies and their lies as well.

no proof is necessary they lived as the same for moses for which resides much in doubt - what is required however are their claims the heavens have spoken to them otherwise their is no foundation for anything written in regards to such claims and no religion may be based on the unverified conjecture of self motivated individuals with their own agendas they thought needing to be fulfill.

 

[DennisPTate]

Did you know?

It is true.

Good point!

I remember reading about a near death experience by a Christian who was shown Muslims going to heaven or paradise because they called on The Prophet Isa at the time when they approached death. This same person saw a Christian going into a not nice afterlife due to their refusal to forgive others who had offended them.

Jesus brought Emmanuel back to Rwanda in the very house where his dead body was. They stood up in the room and no one could see them. Jesus showed Emmanuel his dead body. It looked terrible. Jesus told him that one day after his visit in heaven, he will go back in that body.

Emmanuel could hear the conversation of people in the room where his body was. They were saying, “Oh, the saved man has died!”

Jesus took Emmanuel back to heaven and showed him a beautiful city. Emmanuel said this was a very beautiful city with houses he has never seen anywhere in the world. There was a lake there and he was told he could not go across it.

He was surprised to see, across the lake, some of his friends who had died in Rwanda including a Muslim. Emmanuel was surprised he did not see some devout Christians with whom he had been serving God with. He asked Christ how a Muslim could be in heaven. Jesus told him that as this Muslim was dying, he called upon the name of Jesus, and Jesus saved him from hell. Then Emmanuel asked him why a certain devout Christian lady who had served God with him in Rwanda was not in heaven. Jesus replied it was because of her refusal to forgive those who had refused to visit her in the hospital when she was sick. Emmanuel mentioned another name and Jesus told him that the reason that person was not in heaven was that he stole money which Christians had contributed to assist the sick.

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[JustAGuy1]

Did you know?

It is true.

Don't you find it entertaining that they no matter how many times they scream "Allahu Akbar" they still the war?

 

[The Irish Ram]

Good point!

I remember reading about a near death experience by a Christian who was shown Muslims going to heaven or paradise because they called on The Prophet Isa at the time when they approached death. This same person saw a Christian going into a not nice afterlife due to their refusal to forgive others who had offended them.

Not one bit of that makes sense. Jesus is the only way to the Father. Isa? Isaiah is not the way to heaven. If that Muslim didn't repent and turn to Christ before he died, he did not enter Heaven by way of Isaiah.

Christ paid for the crime of unforgiveness harbored by the Christian. If we are judged by our performances as Christians, none of us would go to Heaven. That voids everything that Christ accomplished on the cross. If the person accepted the gift of propitiation, then her sin of forgiveness is covered by the blood of Christ. We get into Heaven, not by what we do, but because God sees His Son instead our sins. God doesn't even remember the person's sin of unforgiveness.

And Emanuel means God with us. Christ is Emmanuel. Was he talking to himself in that dream? And why on earth would you believe that Christ ever showed up in Rwanda? There is nothing in scripture that even comes close to that.
I worry that you have forsaken scripture for manly dreams. You never mention the former, and bank everything in the latter. You are being thrown off track.

I had a near death experience as a child in an ambulance screaming down the highway. And what it proved to me is that there is life after death. That we slip right out of our clay exterior, and never miss a step. I didn't dream that Jesus was driving the ambulance, or that we stopped in Mexico or Rwanda for dinner.

If you don't start comparing what people dream or believe in to scripture, you are going to be all over the place. Paul will tell you what happens when we die. Read him, and take everything else with a grain of salt...

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Allah is not a name, but the Arab word for God

But it is not the same God. Not anymore thar Zeus or Odin.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Allah is Satan

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Allah is not a name, but the Arab word for God

Allah is the name for the moon god worshipped by Mohammed's tribe long before Mohammad was even born. Allah was one of the god's OUR God told to remove from their land. How ironic we have another ignorant but devout Catholic pushing the false belief in wicked pagan gods.

Al-ilah was the name for the Chief God among the "gods." Satan is the chief god among the fallen spirits

The fact is, Christians understand that pagan gods are infact DEMONS passing themselves off as gods. And here we have a Catholic advocating the worship of the moon god

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the Arabs remained true to their conviction that the Moon-god was the greatest of all gods. While they worshipped 360 gods at the Kabah in Mecca,. Mecca was in fact built as a shrine for the Moon-god.This is what made it the most sacred site of Arabian paganism. In 1944, G. Caton Thompson revealed in her book, The Tombs and Moon Temple of Hureidha, that she had uncovered a temple of the Moon-god in southern Arabia. The symbols of the crescent moon and no less than twenty-one inscriptions with the name Sin were found in this temple. An idol which may be the Moon-god himself was also discovered. This was later confirmed by other well-known archeologists. The evidence reveals that the temple of the Moon-god was active even in the Christian era. Evidence gathered from both North and South Arabia demonstrate that Moon-god worship was clearly active even in Muhammad's day and was still the dominant cult. According to numerous inscriptions, while the name of the Moon-god was Sin, his title was al-ilah, i.e. "the deity," meaning that he was the chief or high god among the gods. As Coon pointed out, "The god Il or Ilah was originally a phase of the Moon God." The Moon-god was called al-ilah, i.e. the god, which was shortened to Allah in pre-Islamic times

Allah - the Moon God, The Archeology of The Middle East

Allah - the Moon God, The Archeology of The Middle East

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[Zebra]

I am not talking of names, but of words


And these are words for God …..

Gott, Dieu, Dios, Allah, etc …..

 

[Hafar1014]

Set a Bible beside the Koran. If they are the same, then you should be able to find, Kill all infidels, in the Tanakh, the NT, Buddhism, Hinduism.

Show me they are all the same...

Islam still thinks it 8oo AD

 

[Zebra]

Then they are not Christians. We call the Christian God, the God of Abraham. I've been a Christian all my life and never once directed a prayer to Allah. Allah the exact opposite of the God that Christ calls Abba.

Nonsense

Allah is the Arab word for God

Q.E.D.

 

[Zebra]

Then they are not Christians. We call the Christian God, the God of Abraham. I've been a Christian all my life and never once directed a prayer to Allah. Allah the exact opposite of the God that Christ calls Abba.

Are you an Arab?

 

[Zebra]

I've been a Christian all my life and never once directed a prayer to Allah. Allah the exact opposite of the God that Christ calls Abba.

That is like a German who would say: I only pray to Gott, and never to Dieu or Dios or Deus or God ….. etc.

 

[Zebra]

Jewish Arabs also use Allah as their word for God.

 

[Zebra]

But it is not the same God. Not anymore thar Zeus or Odin.

Zeus and Odin are names, not words.
God is a word, not a name.