AR-15 shooting a single .223 round literally rips upper half of the body from victims lower half

[westwall]

No, and you forgot:
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, to suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions
It doesn't state: to incite and pursue/perform insurrections !!!!

FALSE: This wasn't about an insurrection against the US government, but veterans forming a militia to counter a known and proven corrupt sheriff and his local politician buddies from manipulating an election and thus extorting and suppressing the population. Due to the FBI nor the Tennessee State government having been willing to take action, despite having being requested.

Where did e.g. Trump request the FBI to monitor the national election in 2020????

It was factually the sheriff, (Trump) via hiring 200 outside deputies, (proud boys) who formed a paramilitary group to suppress the local population from getting their democratic rights (aka Trump inciting an insurrection against a democratic election result) - thus an individual (the sheriff) incited an insurrection against the democratic rights of the population.

Trump and his radical insurrectionists, are nothing else but exactly this sheriff and his hired deputies. trying to take influence via violent means, to manipulate/prevent an unwanted election result.

Thus this MILITIA countering/fighting against the insurrectionist attempt of this sheriff and his proud boys. Therefore the Militia in this case, had done EXACTLY as to what the constitution states.


Maybe you should read up upon this incident.

The Battle of Athens: An Obscure American Revolution – Legends of America

"It is oftimes necessary for the tree of liberty to be nourished by the blood of patriots, AND TYRANTS"-Thomas Jefferson, author of the Constitution.

 

[Batcat]

It's a FACT - that those Lefty/Libs are way smarter then those conservative Americans or Europeans - not even to mention MAGA radicals and their rabble.
Otherwise do tell me - how did they manage to implement their "views" and agendas from becoming LAWS ???? They made use of the available democratic process in the past 60 years - they did not parade around with guns nor did they pull off insurrection attempts.

Even their hardcore faction from e.g. ANTIFA, does not parade around with guns - nor do they use them, but they prefer rocks and stones, and Molotov's to burn up whatever they prefer.

They use their "peaceful" ideological hardliners to "glue themselves onto the road" to "blackmail" society and the respective government - they don't need to talk cock&bull about having an AR-15 in order to achieve their political goals.

Yes, it was the liberals who were burning down cities in riots a couple of years ago. They succeeded in reducing the funds for many police departments in liberal cities and today we are seeing the results. Proof that liberals are not as smart as they think they are.

Oakland NAACP Blames 'Defund the Police' for Rampant Crime in City​

(link),,,MSN

Boarded up Seattle businesses beg city leaders for help as crime surges: 'Defund the police has failed'

Seattle residents and business owners are begging city leaders for help and rejecting the move to defund the police as crime continues to plague their neighborhood.

www.foxnews.com

New York City's mayor flipped the script on 'defund the police.' It didn't end well.​

Link,,,MSN

 

[Batcat]

The British issued the FN-FAL in semi auto only, called the L1A1, seems to have worked fine for them for decades.

That rifle is being replaced,

L1A1 Self-Loading Rifle - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

snip

Replacement​

Starting in the mid-1980s, the United Kingdom started replacing its 30-year-old L1A1 rifle with the 5.56 NATObullpup design L85A1 assault rifle. Australia chose the Steyr AUG as a replacement in the form of the F88 Austeyr, with New Zealand following suit shortly after. Canada replaced its C1 rifle with AR-15 variants, such as the C7 service rifle and C8 carbine.

Australia replaced its L2A1 heavy barrel support weapons with M60s and later with an FN Minimi variant: the F89. Canada replaced its C2 heavy barrel support weapons with an FN Minimi variant: the C9, respectively.

 

[westwall]

That rifle is being replaced,

L1A1 Self-Loading Rifle - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

snip

Replacement​

Starting in the mid-1980s, the United Kingdom started replacing its 30-year-old L1A1 rifle with the 5.56 NATObullpup design L85A1 assault rifle. Australia chose the Steyr AUG as a replacement in the form of the F88 Austeyr, with New Zealand following suit shortly after. Canada replaced its C1 rifle with AR-15 variants, such as the C7 service rifle and C8 carbine.

Australia replaced its L2A1 heavy barrel support weapons with M60s and later with an FN Minimi variant: the F89. Canada replaced its C2 heavy barrel support weapons with an FN Minimi variant: the C9, respectively.

Yes, they did. And what's funny is the L85 MUST be fired full auto all the time to function, while the LMG version works best as a semi auto.

Best laid plans and all of that.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The British issued the FN-FAL in semi auto only, called the L1A1, seems to have worked fine for them for decades.

Most M14s were modified to fire semi-auto only.
Hakim, SKS, MAS-49 - any number of semi-auto only combat rifles.

 

[Batcat]

Yes, they did. And what's funny is the L85 MUST be fired full auto all the time to function, while the LMG version works best as a semi auto.

Best laid plans and all of that.

You can use a lot of ammo going full auto. Definitely not one shot, one kill.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Most M14s were modified to fire semi-auto only.
Hakim, SKS, MAS-49 - any number of semi-auto only combat rifles.

They weren't modified, but only the automatic riflemen were provided with the "drop-in" selector switch. The internal guts were the same. That's why you can't buy an M-14 from the Civilian Marksmanship Program. Every single one is capable of full auto fire.

 

[M14 Shooter]

They weren't modified, but only the automatic riflemen were provided with the "drop-in" selector switch. The internal guts were the same.

Well, right - the selector was removed. That's a modification

That's why you can't buy an M-14 from the Civilian Marksmanship Program. Every single one is capable of full auto fire.

Cant' sell them even if they swapped out the parts - once a machine gun, always a machine gun.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Well, right - the selector was removed. That's a modification

Cant' sell them even if they swapped out the parts - once a machine gun, always a machine gun.

The "parts" were literally nothing but a lever that inserted into a pre-drilled hole in the receiver.

 

[Kruska]

Yes, it was the liberals who were burning down cities in riots a couple of years ago. They succeeded in reducing the funds for many police departments in liberal cities and today we are seeing the results. Proof that liberals are not as smart as they think they are.

So they manged to e.g. de-fund the police - did the other parties achieve this? NO

Due to their mostly peaceful, continuous MASS demonstrations, partially accompanied by violent sections, e.g. Antifa or countered by violent opposition factions (thus escalating into riots) - they managed to introduce/enforce thousands of laws - fitting THEIR agenda. - those very ones that now many Americans and especially MAGA's oppose - however those opposing haven't managed to RETRACT those laws in any significant number.

And it is ONLY respective states, that oppose these (Constitutional based laws) and are therefore in a constant legal battle without being able to substantially reject/annul these laws. And these "weaponized" gun nuts haven't managed to annul any of these laws. In contra, they are now in constant fear that their guns will be taken away.

So obviously, whether you like it or not - them lefty/Lib's are FACTUALLY way smarter. - since they got and are still getting their way.

 

[Kruska]

You can use a lot of ammo going full auto. Definitely not one shot, one kill.

Neither does semi-burst (3shots) nor a single shot function - "guarantee" nor proof a higher hit ratio, then full auto.
It's simply a $$ matter - since especially the US Armed Forces are known for their expenditure of full magazines - shot off blindly or uncontrolled due to panicking or simply being brainless and ill disciplined/trained.

All foreign forces recall vividly these CNN videos - of US troops firing blindly their entire magazines behind walls - without even looking, e.g. Iraq. The extreme ammo wastage in e.g. Vietnam and Afghanistan is also well documented. Same goes for maneuvers that include US Forces.

 

[Batcat]

Neither does semi-burst (3shots) nor a single shot function - "guarantee" nor proof a higher hit ratio, then full auto.
It's simply a $$ matter - since especially the US Armed Forces are known for their expenditure of full magazines - shot off blindly or uncontrolled due to panicking or simply being brainless and ill disciplined/trained.

All foreign forces recall vividly these CNN videos - of US troops firing blindly their entire magazines behind walls - without even looking, e.g. Iraq. The extreme ammo wastage in e.g. Vietnam and Afghanistan is also well documented. Same goes for maneuvers that include US Forces.

I have seen videos of troops in Vietnam ”firing blindly“ full auto over walls. Definitely a waste of good ammo.

 

[westwall]

The "parts" were literally nothing but a lever that inserted into a pre-drilled hole in the receiver.

Actually there is a tab, welded to the receiver, that held the selector. Even cutting that tab completely off doesn't convert it to semi in the eyes of the ATF.

 

[Kruska]

I have seen videos of troops in Vietnam ”firing blindly“ full auto over walls. Definitely a waste of good ammo.

Doesn't just apply to e.g. US troops in Vietnam or elsewhere - but the same issue had been the case when German ISAF troops in Afghanistan ran into combat situations for the first time. The individual soldier simply panics and initially can't apply his training in regards to suppressive fire and direct fire.
However let's be honest - the expenditure of $$ via small arms ammo is nothing compared to "supportive" weaponry being called in. E.g. a called in B1 - to drop it's load resulting in the killing and destruction of dozens of civilian vehicles/trucks and around 200 civilians and some 20 Talibans.

 

[Roy C]

cool!

 

[Batcat]

Doesn't just apply to e.g. US troops in Vietnam or elsewhere - but the same issue had been the case when German ISAF troops in Afghanistan ran into combat situations for the first time. The individual soldier simply panics and initially can't apply his training in regards to suppressive fire and direct fire.
However let's be honest - the expenditure of $$ via small arms ammo is nothing compared to "supportive" weaponry being called in. E.g. a called in B1 - to drop it's load resulting in the killing and destruction of dozens of civilian vehicles/trucks and around 200 civilians and some 20 Talibans.

Fair point.