antifa threw rocks, urine and bottles at police

[Kosh]

antifa....the other racist, socialist violent thugs who are supported by the democrat party....

Antifa Thugs Get Violent (Again), Clash With Police During 'Peace Rally' in Boston

According to the Boston Police Department, protesters threw rocks, urine, and bottles at officers manning the rally.
-----

According to an unconfirmed report, a teenaged Trump supporter with a “F*** Nazis, F*** Antifa, Donald Trump 2020" sign was surrounded by Antifa before being "rescued" by police officers:

MSNBC correspondent Garrett Haake reported on Antifa members assaulting pro-life advocates. "Antifa folks just mobbed some anti-abortion protestors w/ posters. Yelled & tore posters til cops came."

You notice how the far left drones on this board accept and embrace these terrorists?

 

[Roudy]

The statements by the treasonous fat senile old orange clown were not fine. The were a pass for the KKK and Neo-Nazis, and are justly condemned by all moral and ethical people.

You mean these statements?

"Racism is evil. And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans. "

No. I mean statements like this one:
----
From the article:

President Donald Trump on Saturday declined to condemn the violent actions and protests of white supremacists who had converged en masse on Charlottesville, Virginia, to protest the removal of a statue of a Confederate general...

Instead, Trump called out, in what he deemed the strongest possible terms, "this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides — on many sides.” Yet, he never denounced by name the extremist group or called the behavior of the white supremacists unacceptable.

Trump fails to condemn white supremacists in statement on Charlottesville violence
----
We're talking about real terrorist groups: the KKK and the Nazis. Donnie should have been able to see the difference between those people protesting hate and racism, and the people propagating hate and racism.

trump had the opportunity to make a strong statement about our problems with racism and hatred. He could have tried to appear presidential, for a change, and say something about the need to unify the nation. He was incapable of doing that. Instead, he flipped and flopped and seemingly couldn't say much of anything that made sense. He's probably still changing his statements.

Unlike Obama who again and again rushed to judgment in incident after incident and was left with egg on his face, the President wisely acknowledged that there was unacceptable hatred and hate speech on BOTH sides. And he was 100% correct.

He was not commending or condoning or endorsing white supremacist groups in any way. He was not willing to single out one group and thereby let another, equally or more guilty for the violence off the hook. He subsequently made it clear that he condemned all white supremacist groups, but at that time while the news story was still developing, he wisely did not take sides.

Trump has rushed to judgement MANY times...and unlike Obama, he has never taken responsibility to doing so.

His condemnation was two days too late.

I just don't see it that way my friend. He condemned ALL the violence immediately and included all who were responsible for it. He refused to take the snowflake position that one side had purer motives than the other, therefore the politically incorrect side was to blame for all. The left was screaming for him to condemn the white supremacists but there were not equal calls for condemnations of Antifa and others who came for no other reason than to stir up chaos and create violence. He wasn't buying that.

I am 100% in his camp on that.

I loath and despise white supremacist doctrine in all its forms.

And I loath and despise the movement(s) that would deny others their right to speak their opinion just because that opinion is not politically correct.

And I pray that thinking people will be able to cast off their hatred of the President and their partisan mindset on both sides and start seeing and telling it like it really is. When they do we might start making some progress in resolving problems instead of the screams of hate talk and divisiveness and violence that is tearing us apart.

Objectively, Trump should have specified the Neo Nazis by name immediately, especially since he DOES have Jews in his immediate family. He could have also mentioned Antifa. And on the other hand, I didn't see Lefties eating their soiled underwear over why Obama didn't specifically "condemn" when racists and bigots like reverend Wright and Louis Farrakhan said some of the most vile, anti Semitic anti American things, while at the same time show their full support of Obama? As usual the crooked dishonest media is ginning up fake outrage.

 

[monkrules]

The statements by the treasonous fat senile old orange clown were not fine. The were a pass for the KKK and Neo-Nazis, and are justly condemned by all moral and ethical people.

You mean these statements?

"Racism is evil. And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans. "

No. I mean statements like this one:
----
From the article:

President Donald Trump on Saturday declined to condemn the violent actions and protests of white supremacists who had converged en masse on Charlottesville, Virginia, to protest the removal of a statue of a Confederate general...

Instead, Trump called out, in what he deemed the strongest possible terms, "this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides — on many sides.” Yet, he never denounced by name the extremist group or called the behavior of the white supremacists unacceptable.

Trump fails to condemn white supremacists in statement on Charlottesville violence
----
We're talking about real terrorist groups: the KKK and the Nazis. Donnie should have been able to see the difference between those people protesting hate and racism, and the people propagating hate and racism.

trump had the opportunity to make a strong statement about our problems with racism and hatred. He could have tried to appear presidential, for a change, and say something about the need to unify the nation. He was incapable of doing that. Instead, he flipped and flopped and seemingly couldn't say much of anything that made sense. He's probably still changing his statements.

Unlike Obama who again and again rushed to judgment in incident after incident and was left with egg on his face, the President wisely acknowledged that there was unacceptable hatred and hate speech on BOTH sides. And he was 100% correct.

He was not commending or condoning or endorsing white supremacist groups in any way. He was not willing to single out one group and thereby let another, equally or more guilty for the violence off the hook. He subsequently made it clear that he condemned all white supremacist groups, but at that time while the news story was still developing, he wisely did not take sides.

Trump has rushed to judgement MANY times...and unlike Obama, he has never taken responsibility to doing so.

His condemnation was two days too late.

I just don't see it that way my friend. He condemned ALL the violence immediately and included all who were responsible for it. He refused to take the snowflake position that one side had purer motives than the other, therefore the politically incorrect side was to blame for all. The left was screaming for him to condemn the white supremacists but there were not equal calls for condemnations of Antifa and others who came for no other reason than to stir up chaos and create violence. He wasn't buying that.

I am 100% in his camp on that.

I loath and despise white supremacist doctrine in all its forms.

And I loath and despise the movement(s) that would deny others their right to speak their opinion just because that opinion is not politically correct.

And I pray that thinking people will be able to cast off their hatred of the President and their partisan mindset on both sides and start seeing and telling it like it really is. When they do we might start making some progress in resolving problems instead of the screams of hate talk and divisiveness and violence that is tearing us apart.

Well, the condemnations of trump's waffling, indecisiveness, and inability to call the KKK and Nazis what they are: TERRORIST organizations, have come from all over the country and all around the world. Many republicans commented on trump's weak stance, including two ex-presidents, a republican presidential candidate, congressmen. World leaders, too, found trump's comments weak and unacceptable. Could it be that among all of these people, some might know a thing or two? Or, do we just dismiss them, because they're not fawning all over the orange dunce.

trump has a hard time distancing himself from white supramecist and terrorist groups because they support him, and that's all he cares about. He missed a huge opportunity to look presidential, for once. And to actually appear as though he cares about all Americans, not just a bunch of angry white guys from the middle of the country who are finding out that life really is hard when one has to compete for jobs and opportunities. And don't get me wrong, I realize companies have shipped jobs overseas and there are a lot of problems in the Rust Belt, etc. But LOTS of Americans are hurting. Americans of ALL colors, from all places. trump is supposed to represent EVERYONE not just KKK types.

 

[monkrules]

antifa....the other racist, socialist violent thugs who are supported by the democrat party....

Antifa Thugs Get Violent (Again), Clash With Police During 'Peace Rally' in Boston

According to the Boston Police Department, protesters threw rocks, urine, and bottles at officers manning the rally.
-----

According to an unconfirmed report, a teenaged Trump supporter with a “F*** Nazis, F*** Antifa, Donald Trump 2020" sign was surrounded by Antifa before being "rescued" by police officers:

MSNBC correspondent Garrett Haake reported on Antifa members assaulting pro-life advocates. "Antifa folks just mobbed some anti-abortion protestors w/ posters. Yelled & tore posters til cops came."

You notice how the far left drones on this board accept and embrace these terrorists?

Try to be honest. The KKK and Nazis are the terrorist organizations. Read a little history and you won't be embarrasing yourself making these kinds of statements. Nearly 500,000 American soldiers DIED fighting the Nazis in WWll. That's how bad they are. How can you support them?

The antifa protesters are a pain in the ass. But they're doing what they think they have to do to fight the racism and hatred of the KKK and Nazis.

 

[monkrules]

You mean these statements?

"Racism is evil. And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans. "

No. I mean statements like this one:
----
From the article:

President Donald Trump on Saturday declined to condemn the violent actions and protests of white supremacists who had converged en masse on Charlottesville, Virginia, to protest the removal of a statue of a Confederate general...

Instead, Trump called out, in what he deemed the strongest possible terms, "this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides — on many sides.” Yet, he never denounced by name the extremist group or called the behavior of the white supremacists unacceptable.

Trump fails to condemn white supremacists in statement on Charlottesville violence
----
We're talking about real terrorist groups: the KKK and the Nazis. Donnie should have been able to see the difference between those people protesting hate and racism, and the people propagating hate and racism.

trump had the opportunity to make a strong statement about our problems with racism and hatred. He could have tried to appear presidential, for a change, and say something about the need to unify the nation. He was incapable of doing that. Instead, he flipped and flopped and seemingly couldn't say much of anything that made sense. He's probably still changing his statements.

Unlike Obama who again and again rushed to judgment in incident after incident and was left with egg on his face, the President wisely acknowledged that there was unacceptable hatred and hate speech on BOTH sides. And he was 100% correct.

He was not commending or condoning or endorsing white supremacist groups in any way. He was not willing to single out one group and thereby let another, equally or more guilty for the violence off the hook. He subsequently made it clear that he condemned all white supremacist groups, but at that time while the news story was still developing, he wisely did not take sides.

Trump has rushed to judgement MANY times...and unlike Obama, he has never taken responsibility to doing so.

His condemnation was two days too late.

I just don't see it that way my friend. He condemned ALL the violence immediately and included all who were responsible for it. He refused to take the snowflake position that one side had purer motives than the other, therefore the politically incorrect side was to blame for all. The left was screaming for him to condemn the white supremacists but there were not equal calls for condemnations of Antifa and others who came for no other reason than to stir up chaos and create violence. He wasn't buying that.

I am 100% in his camp on that.

I loath and despise white supremacist doctrine in all its forms.

And I loath and despise the movement(s) that would deny others their right to speak their opinion just because that opinion is not politically correct.

And I pray that thinking people will be able to cast off their hatred of the President and their partisan mindset on both sides and start seeing and telling it like it really is. When they do we might start making some progress in resolving problems instead of the screams of hate talk and divisiveness and violence that is tearing us apart.

Objectively, Trump should have specified the Neo Nazis by name immediately, especially since he DOES have Jews in his immediate family. He could have also mentioned Antifa. And on the other hand, I didn't see Lefties eating their soiled underwear over why Obama didn't specifically "condemn" when racists and bigots like reverend Wright and Louis Farrakhan said some of the most vile, anti Semitic anti American things, while at the same time show their full support of Obama? As usual the crooked dishonest media is ginning up fake outrage.

I agree with what you've written.

But we can't change history. The country seems to be coming apart and we have terrorist organizations, the KKK and Nazis, supporting our president. And this president seems unable to even call them what they are: terrorists. And he seems unwilling to denounce their support.

We need to deal with today's problems. And we need a REAL leader now. But trump seems incapable of growing into the presidency. He's good at rallies, and talking shit. But not much when leadership is needed.

 

[Roudy]

No. I mean statements like this one:
----
From the article:

President Donald Trump on Saturday declined to condemn the violent actions and protests of white supremacists who had converged en masse on Charlottesville, Virginia, to protest the removal of a statue of a Confederate general...

Instead, Trump called out, in what he deemed the strongest possible terms, "this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides — on many sides.” Yet, he never denounced by name the extremist group or called the behavior of the white supremacists unacceptable.

Trump fails to condemn white supremacists in statement on Charlottesville violence
----
We're talking about real terrorist groups: the KKK and the Nazis. Donnie should have been able to see the difference between those people protesting hate and racism, and the people propagating hate and racism.

trump had the opportunity to make a strong statement about our problems with racism and hatred. He could have tried to appear presidential, for a change, and say something about the need to unify the nation. He was incapable of doing that. Instead, he flipped and flopped and seemingly couldn't say much of anything that made sense. He's probably still changing his statements.

Unlike Obama who again and again rushed to judgment in incident after incident and was left with egg on his face, the President wisely acknowledged that there was unacceptable hatred and hate speech on BOTH sides. And he was 100% correct.

He was not commending or condoning or endorsing white supremacist groups in any way. He was not willing to single out one group and thereby let another, equally or more guilty for the violence off the hook. He subsequently made it clear that he condemned all white supremacist groups, but at that time while the news story was still developing, he wisely did not take sides.

Trump has rushed to judgement MANY times...and unlike Obama, he has never taken responsibility to doing so.

His condemnation was two days too late.

I just don't see it that way my friend. He condemned ALL the violence immediately and included all who were responsible for it. He refused to take the snowflake position that one side had purer motives than the other, therefore the politically incorrect side was to blame for all. The left was screaming for him to condemn the white supremacists but there were not equal calls for condemnations of Antifa and others who came for no other reason than to stir up chaos and create violence. He wasn't buying that.

I am 100% in his camp on that.

I loath and despise white supremacist doctrine in all its forms.

And I loath and despise the movement(s) that would deny others their right to speak their opinion just because that opinion is not politically correct.

And I pray that thinking people will be able to cast off their hatred of the President and their partisan mindset on both sides and start seeing and telling it like it really is. When they do we might start making some progress in resolving problems instead of the screams of hate talk and divisiveness and violence that is tearing us apart.

Objectively, Trump should have specified the Neo Nazis by name immediately, especially since he DOES have Jews in his immediate family. He could have also mentioned Antifa. And on the other hand, I didn't see Lefties eating their soiled underwear over why Obama didn't specifically "condemn" when racists and bigots like reverend Wright and Louis Farrakhan said some of the most vile, anti Semitic anti American things, while at the same time show their full support of Obama? As usual the crooked dishonest media is ginning up fake outrage.

I agree with what you've written.

But we can't change history. The country seems to be coming apart and we have terrorist organizations, the KKK and Nazis, supporting our president. And this president seems unable to even call them what they are: terrorists. And he seems unwilling to denounce their support.

We need to deal with today's problems. And we need a REAL leader now. But trump seems incapable of growing into the presidency. He's good at rallies, and talking shit. But not much when leadership is needed.

He's denounced white supremacists and neo Nazis dozens of times in his recent and distant past, he may have dropped the ball this time by not naming them specifically and early enough. Maybe in his mind he felt that both sides harbored hatred and violence, which was true, and he wanted to call both of them out. So I give him the benefit of the doubt on that. As far as being a real leader, there is no doubt he one. Just look at the accomplishments both domestically and internationally. Let us also not forget that he said he was going going to drain the swamp, by fighting corrupt, crooked politicians on both sides, and that is exactly what he is doing.

 

[Unkotare]

...

trump has a hard time distancing himself from white supramecist [sic] and terrorist groups because they support him, and that's all he cares about. ....

Like this?

"Racism is evil. And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans. "

 

[Foxfyre]

You mean these statements?

"Racism is evil. And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans. "

No. I mean statements like this one:
----
From the article:

President Donald Trump on Saturday declined to condemn the violent actions and protests of white supremacists who had converged en masse on Charlottesville, Virginia, to protest the removal of a statue of a Confederate general...

Instead, Trump called out, in what he deemed the strongest possible terms, "this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides — on many sides.” Yet, he never denounced by name the extremist group or called the behavior of the white supremacists unacceptable.

Trump fails to condemn white supremacists in statement on Charlottesville violence
----
We're talking about real terrorist groups: the KKK and the Nazis. Donnie should have been able to see the difference between those people protesting hate and racism, and the people propagating hate and racism.

trump had the opportunity to make a strong statement about our problems with racism and hatred. He could have tried to appear presidential, for a change, and say something about the need to unify the nation. He was incapable of doing that. Instead, he flipped and flopped and seemingly couldn't say much of anything that made sense. He's probably still changing his statements.

Unlike Obama who again and again rushed to judgment in incident after incident and was left with egg on his face, the President wisely acknowledged that there was unacceptable hatred and hate speech on BOTH sides. And he was 100% correct.

He was not commending or condoning or endorsing white supremacist groups in any way. He was not willing to single out one group and thereby let another, equally or more guilty for the violence off the hook. He subsequently made it clear that he condemned all white supremacist groups, but at that time while the news story was still developing, he wisely did not take sides.

Trump has rushed to judgement MANY times...and unlike Obama, he has never taken responsibility to doing so.

His condemnation was two days too late.

I just don't see it that way my friend. He condemned ALL the violence immediately and included all who were responsible for it. He refused to take the snowflake position that one side had purer motives than the other, therefore the politically incorrect side was to blame for all. The left was screaming for him to condemn the white supremacists but there were not equal calls for condemnations of Antifa and others who came for no other reason than to stir up chaos and create violence. He wasn't buying that.

I am 100% in his camp on that.

I loath and despise white supremacist doctrine in all its forms.

And I loath and despise the movement(s) that would deny others their right to speak their opinion just because that opinion is not politically correct.

And I pray that thinking people will be able to cast off their hatred of the President and their partisan mindset on both sides and start seeing and telling it like it really is. When they do we might start making some progress in resolving problems instead of the screams of hate talk and divisiveness and violence that is tearing us apart.

Objectively, Trump should have specified the Neo Nazis by name immediately, especially since he DOES have Jews in his immediate family. He could have also mentioned Antifa. And on the other hand, I didn't see Lefties eating their soiled underwear over why Obama didn't specifically "condemn" when racists and bigots like reverend Wright and Louis Farrakhan said some of the most vile, anti Semitic anti American things, while at the same time show their full support of Obama? As usual the crooked dishonest media is ginning up fake outrage.

When the President made his initial announcement, the story was still unfolding and it had not been definitively determined who all was involved in the violence. Thus 'many sides' was the most accurate call.

 

[Foxfyre]

You mean these statements?

"Racism is evil. And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans. "

No. I mean statements like this one:
----
From the article:

President Donald Trump on Saturday declined to condemn the violent actions and protests of white supremacists who had converged en masse on Charlottesville, Virginia, to protest the removal of a statue of a Confederate general...

Instead, Trump called out, in what he deemed the strongest possible terms, "this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides — on many sides.” Yet, he never denounced by name the extremist group or called the behavior of the white supremacists unacceptable.

Trump fails to condemn white supremacists in statement on Charlottesville violence
----
We're talking about real terrorist groups: the KKK and the Nazis. Donnie should have been able to see the difference between those people protesting hate and racism, and the people propagating hate and racism.

trump had the opportunity to make a strong statement about our problems with racism and hatred. He could have tried to appear presidential, for a change, and say something about the need to unify the nation. He was incapable of doing that. Instead, he flipped and flopped and seemingly couldn't say much of anything that made sense. He's probably still changing his statements.

Unlike Obama who again and again rushed to judgment in incident after incident and was left with egg on his face, the President wisely acknowledged that there was unacceptable hatred and hate speech on BOTH sides. And he was 100% correct.

He was not commending or condoning or endorsing white supremacist groups in any way. He was not willing to single out one group and thereby let another, equally or more guilty for the violence off the hook. He subsequently made it clear that he condemned all white supremacist groups, but at that time while the news story was still developing, he wisely did not take sides.

Trump has rushed to judgement MANY times...and unlike Obama, he has never taken responsibility to doing so.

His condemnation was two days too late.

I just don't see it that way my friend. He condemned ALL the violence immediately and included all who were responsible for it. He refused to take the snowflake position that one side had purer motives than the other, therefore the politically incorrect side was to blame for all. The left was screaming for him to condemn the white supremacists but there were not equal calls for condemnations of Antifa and others who came for no other reason than to stir up chaos and create violence. He wasn't buying that.

I am 100% in his camp on that.

I loath and despise white supremacist doctrine in all its forms.

And I loath and despise the movement(s) that would deny others their right to speak their opinion just because that opinion is not politically correct.

And I pray that thinking people will be able to cast off their hatred of the President and their partisan mindset on both sides and start seeing and telling it like it really is. When they do we might start making some progress in resolving problems instead of the screams of hate talk and divisiveness and violence that is tearing us apart.

Well, the condemnations of trump's waffling, indecisiveness, and inability to call the KKK and Nazis what they are: TERRORIST organizations, have come from all over the country and all around the world. Many republicans commented on trump's weak stance, including two ex-presidents, a republican presidential candidate, congressmen. World leaders, too, found trump's comments weak and unacceptable. Could it be that among all of these people, some might know a thing or two? Or, do we just dismiss them, because they're not fawning all over the orange dunce.

trump has a hard time distancing himself from white supramecist and terrorist groups because they support him, and that's all he cares about. He missed a huge opportunity to look presidential, for once. And to actually appear as though he cares about all Americans, not just a bunch of angry white guys from the middle of the country who are finding out that life really is hard when one has to compete for jobs and opportunities. And don't get me wrong, I realize companies have shipped jobs overseas and there are a lot of problems in the Rust Belt, etc. But LOTS of Americans are hurting. Americans of ALL colors, from all places. trump is supposed to represent EVERYONE not just KKK types.

You keep saying that despite myself and others who have rebutted your position on it. Trump HAS spoken out unequivocably and without any qualification whatsoever that the white supremacists groups whether KKK or other are reprehensible, evil, and hateful. But even they should be hung only for the crimes they actually commit. They were not the only ones responsible for the violence in Charlottesville and it was uncertain at that time who all was in on it. Thus it would be wrong to single out any specific group or groups while letting all others off the hook.

 

[Roudy]

No. I mean statements like this one:
----
From the article:

President Donald Trump on Saturday declined to condemn the violent actions and protests of white supremacists who had converged en masse on Charlottesville, Virginia, to protest the removal of a statue of a Confederate general...

Instead, Trump called out, in what he deemed the strongest possible terms, "this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides — on many sides.” Yet, he never denounced by name the extremist group or called the behavior of the white supremacists unacceptable.

Trump fails to condemn white supremacists in statement on Charlottesville violence
----
We're talking about real terrorist groups: the KKK and the Nazis. Donnie should have been able to see the difference between those people protesting hate and racism, and the people propagating hate and racism.

trump had the opportunity to make a strong statement about our problems with racism and hatred. He could have tried to appear presidential, for a change, and say something about the need to unify the nation. He was incapable of doing that. Instead, he flipped and flopped and seemingly couldn't say much of anything that made sense. He's probably still changing his statements.

Unlike Obama who again and again rushed to judgment in incident after incident and was left with egg on his face, the President wisely acknowledged that there was unacceptable hatred and hate speech on BOTH sides. And he was 100% correct.

He was not commending or condoning or endorsing white supremacist groups in any way. He was not willing to single out one group and thereby let another, equally or more guilty for the violence off the hook. He subsequently made it clear that he condemned all white supremacist groups, but at that time while the news story was still developing, he wisely did not take sides.

Trump has rushed to judgement MANY times...and unlike Obama, he has never taken responsibility to doing so.

His condemnation was two days too late.

I just don't see it that way my friend. He condemned ALL the violence immediately and included all who were responsible for it. He refused to take the snowflake position that one side had purer motives than the other, therefore the politically incorrect side was to blame for all. The left was screaming for him to condemn the white supremacists but there were not equal calls for condemnations of Antifa and others who came for no other reason than to stir up chaos and create violence. He wasn't buying that.

I am 100% in his camp on that.

I loath and despise white supremacist doctrine in all its forms.

And I loath and despise the movement(s) that would deny others their right to speak their opinion just because that opinion is not politically correct.

And I pray that thinking people will be able to cast off their hatred of the President and their partisan mindset on both sides and start seeing and telling it like it really is. When they do we might start making some progress in resolving problems instead of the screams of hate talk and divisiveness and violence that is tearing us apart.

Objectively, Trump should have specified the Neo Nazis by name immediately, especially since he DOES have Jews in his immediate family. He could have also mentioned Antifa. And on the other hand, I didn't see Lefties eating their soiled underwear over why Obama didn't specifically "condemn" when racists and bigots like reverend Wright and Louis Farrakhan said some of the most vile, anti Semitic anti American things, while at the same time show their full support of Obama? As usual the crooked dishonest media is ginning up fake outrage.

When the President made his initial announcement, the story was still unfolding and it had not been definitively determined who all was involved in the violence. Thus 'many sides' was the most accurate call.

That is wishful thinking on our part. He came out and made stronger second and third statements after the media started their fake outrage campaign. Knowing the crooked media and Democrats are out to misrepresent everything he says, he should have played it smart and not given them ammunition the first go around. Instead he chose to stick it to the Antifa thugs as well, who were also to blame. He could have done both, given a more detailed statement calling out and totally condemning the white supremacists and neo Nazis, and done the same towards Antifa. Instead we are in this never ending news cycle over Charlottesville.

I understand where he's coming from, he's trying to call it as it is and be fair, unfortunately in today's climate, he should have added an extra layer to protect himself from the predictable onslaught that came after. Hopefully he learned a valuable lesson, but knowing him, who knows.

 

[EverCurious]

And in the real world, us "normal" folks understood exactly what he meant when he said "many sides" and we were fine with it without clarifications and specifications. ~shrug~

 

[Foxfyre]

Unlike Obama who again and again rushed to judgment in incident after incident and was left with egg on his face, the President wisely acknowledged that there was unacceptable hatred and hate speech on BOTH sides. And he was 100% correct.

He was not commending or condoning or endorsing white supremacist groups in any way. He was not willing to single out one group and thereby let another, equally or more guilty for the violence off the hook. He subsequently made it clear that he condemned all white supremacist groups, but at that time while the news story was still developing, he wisely did not take sides.

Trump has rushed to judgement MANY times...and unlike Obama, he has never taken responsibility to doing so.

His condemnation was two days too late.

I just don't see it that way my friend. He condemned ALL the violence immediately and included all who were responsible for it. He refused to take the snowflake position that one side had purer motives than the other, therefore the politically incorrect side was to blame for all. The left was screaming for him to condemn the white supremacists but there were not equal calls for condemnations of Antifa and others who came for no other reason than to stir up chaos and create violence. He wasn't buying that.

I am 100% in his camp on that.

I loath and despise white supremacist doctrine in all its forms.

And I loath and despise the movement(s) that would deny others their right to speak their opinion just because that opinion is not politically correct.

And I pray that thinking people will be able to cast off their hatred of the President and their partisan mindset on both sides and start seeing and telling it like it really is. When they do we might start making some progress in resolving problems instead of the screams of hate talk and divisiveness and violence that is tearing us apart.

Objectively, Trump should have specified the Neo Nazis by name immediately, especially since he DOES have Jews in his immediate family. He could have also mentioned Antifa. And on the other hand, I didn't see Lefties eating their soiled underwear over why Obama didn't specifically "condemn" when racists and bigots like reverend Wright and Louis Farrakhan said some of the most vile, anti Semitic anti American things, while at the same time show their full support of Obama? As usual the crooked dishonest media is ginning up fake outrage.

When the President made his initial announcement, the story was still unfolding and it had not been definitively determined who all was involved in the violence. Thus 'many sides' was the most accurate call.

That is wishful thinking on our part. He came out and made stronger second and third statements after the media started their fake outrage campaign. Knowing the crooked media and Democrats are out to misrepresent everything he says, he should have played it smart and not given them ammunition the first go around. Instead he chose to stick it to the Antifa thugs as well, who were also to blame. He could have done both, given a more detailed statement calling out and totally condemning the white supremacists and neo Nazis, and done the same towards Antifa. Instead we are in this never ending news cycle over Charlottesville.

I understand where he's coming from, he's trying to call it as it is and be fair, unfortunately in today's climate, he should have added an extra layer to protect himself from the predictable onslaught that came after. Hopefully he learned a valuable lesson, but knowing him, who knows.

He has to be true to who he is and he tries very hard in my opinion not to be hypocritical. He was critical of President Obama and Hillary Clinton when they rushed to judgment again and again only to be exposed for using false facts. I think he was being very careful not to do the same.

Whatever he does he will provide ammunition for the 'false outrage' because those demonstrating it invent crimes if they don't have something legitimate to criticize.

I think the intellectually honest aren't fooled. We have an imperfect person as President. We have always had imperfect people as President. But this one wasn't supposed to win and they are determined to make sure he doesn't succeed to confirm that we who voted for him were stupid to do so.

And it is not just a war against President Trump. It is a war against everything those on the right value or stand for. And they will win that war if good people don't stand up against it.

 

[Roudy]

Trump has rushed to judgement MANY times...and unlike Obama, he has never taken responsibility to doing so.

His condemnation was two days too late.

I just don't see it that way my friend. He condemned ALL the violence immediately and included all who were responsible for it. He refused to take the snowflake position that one side had purer motives than the other, therefore the politically incorrect side was to blame for all. The left was screaming for him to condemn the white supremacists but there were not equal calls for condemnations of Antifa and others who came for no other reason than to stir up chaos and create violence. He wasn't buying that.

I am 100% in his camp on that.

I loath and despise white supremacist doctrine in all its forms.

And I loath and despise the movement(s) that would deny others their right to speak their opinion just because that opinion is not politically correct.

And I pray that thinking people will be able to cast off their hatred of the President and their partisan mindset on both sides and start seeing and telling it like it really is. When they do we might start making some progress in resolving problems instead of the screams of hate talk and divisiveness and violence that is tearing us apart.

Objectively, Trump should have specified the Neo Nazis by name immediately, especially since he DOES have Jews in his immediate family. He could have also mentioned Antifa. And on the other hand, I didn't see Lefties eating their soiled underwear over why Obama didn't specifically "condemn" when racists and bigots like reverend Wright and Louis Farrakhan said some of the most vile, anti Semitic anti American things, while at the same time show their full support of Obama? As usual the crooked dishonest media is ginning up fake outrage.

When the President made his initial announcement, the story was still unfolding and it had not been definitively determined who all was involved in the violence. Thus 'many sides' was the most accurate call.

That is wishful thinking on our part. He came out and made stronger second and third statements after the media started their fake outrage campaign. Knowing the crooked media and Democrats are out to misrepresent everything he says, he should have played it smart and not given them ammunition the first go around. Instead he chose to stick it to the Antifa thugs as well, who were also to blame. He could have done both, given a more detailed statement calling out and totally condemning the white supremacists and neo Nazis, and done the same towards Antifa. Instead we are in this never ending news cycle over Charlottesville.

I understand where he's coming from, he's trying to call it as it is and be fair, unfortunately in today's climate, he should have added an extra layer to protect himself from the predictable onslaught that came after. Hopefully he learned a valuable lesson, but knowing him, who knows.

He has to be true to who he is and he tries very hard in my opinion not to be hypocritical. He was critical of President Obama and Hillary Clinton when they rushed to judgment again and again only to be exposed for using false facts. I think he was being very careful not to do the same.

Whatever he does he will provide ammunition for the 'false outrage' because those demonstrating it invent crimes if they don't have something legitimate to criticize.

I think the intellectually honest aren't fooled. We have an imperfect person as President. We have always had imperfect people as President. But this one wasn't supposed to win and they are determined to make sure he doesn't succeed to confirm that we who voted for him were stupid to do so.

And it is not just a war against President Trump. It is a war against everything those on the right value or stand for. And they will win that war if good people don't stand up against it.

Now that the "collusion" farce doesn't seem like it's going anywhere, they seem to have moved on and are promoting the "he's mentally unstable" talking point. These disgusting lowlifes will do anything to remove Trump from office. Which is testimony to exactly how much of a threat Trump is to the establishment and the corrupt political structure of this country. There is still a lot of time for Trump to get his agenda moving, and hopefully, like you said, the electorate will once again be able to read between the lines in 2018 and 2020 and hand the Democrats yet more humiliating defeats. My prediction is if 2018 doesn't go the Democrat's way, many heads in the party and the crooked media will roll. They have no choice, otherwise the party will self destruct.

 

[Foxfyre]

I just don't see it that way my friend. He condemned ALL the violence immediately and included all who were responsible for it. He refused to take the snowflake position that one side had purer motives than the other, therefore the politically incorrect side was to blame for all. The left was screaming for him to condemn the white supremacists but there were not equal calls for condemnations of Antifa and others who came for no other reason than to stir up chaos and create violence. He wasn't buying that.

I am 100% in his camp on that.

I loath and despise white supremacist doctrine in all its forms.

And I loath and despise the movement(s) that would deny others their right to speak their opinion just because that opinion is not politically correct.

And I pray that thinking people will be able to cast off their hatred of the President and their partisan mindset on both sides and start seeing and telling it like it really is. When they do we might start making some progress in resolving problems instead of the screams of hate talk and divisiveness and violence that is tearing us apart.

Objectively, Trump should have specified the Neo Nazis by name immediately, especially since he DOES have Jews in his immediate family. He could have also mentioned Antifa. And on the other hand, I didn't see Lefties eating their soiled underwear over why Obama didn't specifically "condemn" when racists and bigots like reverend Wright and Louis Farrakhan said some of the most vile, anti Semitic anti American things, while at the same time show their full support of Obama? As usual the crooked dishonest media is ginning up fake outrage.

When the President made his initial announcement, the story was still unfolding and it had not been definitively determined who all was involved in the violence. Thus 'many sides' was the most accurate call.

That is wishful thinking on our part. He came out and made stronger second and third statements after the media started their fake outrage campaign. Knowing the crooked media and Democrats are out to misrepresent everything he says, he should have played it smart and not given them ammunition the first go around. Instead he chose to stick it to the Antifa thugs as well, who were also to blame. He could have done both, given a more detailed statement calling out and totally condemning the white supremacists and neo Nazis, and done the same towards Antifa. Instead we are in this never ending news cycle over Charlottesville.

I understand where he's coming from, he's trying to call it as it is and be fair, unfortunately in today's climate, he should have added an extra layer to protect himself from the predictable onslaught that came after. Hopefully he learned a valuable lesson, but knowing him, who knows.

He has to be true to who he is and he tries very hard in my opinion not to be hypocritical. He was critical of President Obama and Hillary Clinton when they rushed to judgment again and again only to be exposed for using false facts. I think he was being very careful not to do the same.

Whatever he does he will provide ammunition for the 'false outrage' because those demonstrating it invent crimes if they don't have something legitimate to criticize.

I think the intellectually honest aren't fooled. We have an imperfect person as President. We have always had imperfect people as President. But this one wasn't supposed to win and they are determined to make sure he doesn't succeed to confirm that we who voted for him were stupid to do so.

And it is not just a war against President Trump. It is a war against everything those on the right value or stand for. And they will win that war if good people don't stand up against it.

Now that the "collusion" farce doesn't seem like it's going anywhere, they seem to have moved on and are promoting the "he's mentally unstable" talking point. These disgusting lowlifes will do anything to remove Trump from office. Which is testimony to exactly how much of a threat Trump is to the establishment and the corrupt political structure of this country. There is still a lot of time for Trump to get his agenda moving, and hopefully, like you said, the electorate will once again be able to read between the lines in 2018 and 2020 and hand the Democrats yet more humiliating defeats. My prediction is if 2018 doesn't go the Democrat's way, many heads in the party and the crooked media will roll. They have no choice, otherwise the party will self destruct.

There's a few permanent political class establishment status quo Republicans who need to be handed a defeat in 2018 too.

I honestly don't know who will win this war--the permanent political class and their surrogate left and media, or the people who really want to see some good stuff accomplished and don't give a rat's behind whether the President is politically correct or politically astute. When so many of the people are more interested in how he responds to things like Charlottesville or the tweet of the day than the agenda he wants to accomplish for the American people, I figure we are pretty close to losing our Republic. I hope I don't live long enough to see it happen.

 

[Roudy]

Objectively, Trump should have specified the Neo Nazis by name immediately, especially since he DOES have Jews in his immediate family. He could have also mentioned Antifa. And on the other hand, I didn't see Lefties eating their soiled underwear over why Obama didn't specifically "condemn" when racists and bigots like reverend Wright and Louis Farrakhan said some of the most vile, anti Semitic anti American things, while at the same time show their full support of Obama? As usual the crooked dishonest media is ginning up fake outrage.

When the President made his initial announcement, the story was still unfolding and it had not been definitively determined who all was involved in the violence. Thus 'many sides' was the most accurate call.

That is wishful thinking on our part. He came out and made stronger second and third statements after the media started their fake outrage campaign. Knowing the crooked media and Democrats are out to misrepresent everything he says, he should have played it smart and not given them ammunition the first go around. Instead he chose to stick it to the Antifa thugs as well, who were also to blame. He could have done both, given a more detailed statement calling out and totally condemning the white supremacists and neo Nazis, and done the same towards Antifa. Instead we are in this never ending news cycle over Charlottesville.

I understand where he's coming from, he's trying to call it as it is and be fair, unfortunately in today's climate, he should have added an extra layer to protect himself from the predictable onslaught that came after. Hopefully he learned a valuable lesson, but knowing him, who knows.

He has to be true to who he is and he tries very hard in my opinion not to be hypocritical. He was critical of President Obama and Hillary Clinton when they rushed to judgment again and again only to be exposed for using false facts. I think he was being very careful not to do the same.

Whatever he does he will provide ammunition for the 'false outrage' because those demonstrating it invent crimes if they don't have something legitimate to criticize.

I think the intellectually honest aren't fooled. We have an imperfect person as President. We have always had imperfect people as President. But this one wasn't supposed to win and they are determined to make sure he doesn't succeed to confirm that we who voted for him were stupid to do so.

And it is not just a war against President Trump. It is a war against everything those on the right value or stand for. And they will win that war if good people don't stand up against it.

Now that the "collusion" farce doesn't seem like it's going anywhere, they seem to have moved on and are promoting the "he's mentally unstable" talking point. These disgusting lowlifes will do anything to remove Trump from office. Which is testimony to exactly how much of a threat Trump is to the establishment and the corrupt political structure of this country. There is still a lot of time for Trump to get his agenda moving, and hopefully, like you said, the electorate will once again be able to read between the lines in 2018 and 2020 and hand the Democrats yet more humiliating defeats. My prediction is if 2018 doesn't go the Democrat's way, many heads in the party and the crooked media will roll. They have no choice, otherwise the party will self destruct.

There's a few permanent political class establishment status quo Republicans who need to be handed a defeat in 2018 too.

I honestly don't know who will win this war--the permanent political class and their surrogate left and media, or the people who really want to see some good stuff accomplished and don't give a rat's behind whether the President is politically correct or politically astute. When so many of the people are more interested in how he responds to things like Charlottesville or the tweet of the day than the agenda he wants to accomplish for the American people, I figure we are pretty close to losing our Republic. I hope I don't live long enough to see it happen.

Yup, it's almost two years, and the Democrats and the crooked media have no message of real concern for the American people, other than "Trump sucks". We are witnessing the total breakdown and disintegration of the Left and the Democrat party as we know it.

 

[monkrules]

Yup, it's almost two years, and the Democrats and the crooked media have no message of real concern for the American people, other than "Trump sucks". We are witnessing the total breakdown and disintegration of the Left and the Democrat party as we know it.

Sadly, you may be right. I say "sadly" because BOTH parties are corrupt to their core. And having two parties may help a bit as each party might help keep the other a bit honest by hollering about any corruption they see in their opponents' party. Hope that convoluted last sentence makes sense. Lol.

I agree also that the Dems have no message and seem to be "closed for business" these days. IMO, Hillary and that pig Debbie Wasserman Shitz helped cause a large amount of the deterioration we are witnessing. The Dems wasted a TON of money and other resources trying to force an old hag few people like or trust down the throats of innocent American voters. It didn't work out very well...

 

[Roudy]

Yup, it's almost two years, and the Democrats and the crooked media have no message of real concern for the American people, other than "Trump sucks". We are witnessing the total breakdown and disintegration of the Left and the Democrat party as we know it.

Sadly, you may be right. I say "sadly" because BOTH parties are corrupt to their core. And having two parties may help a bit as each party might help keep the other a bit honest by hollering about any corruption they see in their opponents' party. Hope that convoluted last sentence makes sense. Lol.

I agree also that the Dems have no message and seem to be "closed for business" these days. IMO, Hillary and that pig Debbie Wasserman Shitz helped cause a large amount of the deterioration we are witnessing. The Dems wasted a TON of money and other resources trying to force an old hag few people like or trust down the throats of innocent American voters. It didn't work out very well...

The Democratic Party is now a leaderless, rudderless corrupt organization that is totally out of touch with the American people. The only thing that's keeping them afloat is all the infighting in the Republican Party and inability of republicans to recognize and take advantage of their majorities, What happens between now and 2018 will basically determine the future and continuity of the Democratic Party.