An open debate.

[Phoenall]

However you cannot become a Jew by the racial definition.

Would that be because Jew is a religion then!

As well as being a race and a culture

Debatable!

If it was then anti Semitism would not be seen as RACISM towards Jewish people

When Jews and zionists don't consider Jew to be a race and culture then it is debatable!

When zionists have to hijack a 'special' term 'anti-semitism' to define racism against Jews then race is at best questionable!

BULLSHIT and ISLAMOMORN propaganda as no one but the muslims have tried to hijack anti Semitism.

You lose again because you LIE

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Netanyahu: Everyone knows, both rightists and leftists, that any territory surrendered by us, will become an Islamist hotbed of terrorists in Israel's midst.

Humanity, I translated the video link that you provided previously. It was the interview that Netanyahu gave to an Israeli journalist.

 

[montelatici]

Would that be because Jew is a religion then!

As well as being a race and a culture

Debatable!

If it was then anti Semitism would not be seen as RACISM towards Jewish people

When Jews and zionists don't consider Jew to be a race and culture then it is debatable!

When zionists have to hijack a 'special' term 'anti-semitism' to define racism against Jews then race is at best questionable!

BULLSHIT and ISLAMOMORN propaganda as no one but the muslims have tried to hijack anti Semitism.

You lose again because you LIE

Get a grip Phoney. You never "win" an argument, you bullshit too much. By the way, what is an ISLAMOMORN? A Muslim-Mormon cross?

 

[Daniyel]

You can only become a religious Jew. You can also only become a religious muslim you cant become an arab muslim'

Thats right phoney... Well done...

I can become a Jew or a Muslim...

I cannot become an Arab....

What a racist schmuck you are!

However you cannot become a Jew by the racial definition.

Would that be because Jew is a religion then!

Judaism is the religion and Jewish is mostly reference for those living Isolated by these set of rules for thousands of years, similarly for Amish or Duruze.

You mean in the same way as Islam being the religion and Muslim being a follower of these sets of rules for thousands of years...

Nope, you can never become a Jewish descendant of Jacob genetically and therefore racially but you can choose to follow and practice Judaism as a non Jewish or a 'Ger'("Stranger") that within certain generations(not sure how many althought its specified) your decendants genetics will be considered Jewish while you and them will be allowed to marry with Jews so it does make sense, same applies for other religions obviously although none demand a specific heritage - a genetic one.

 

[Phoenall]

As well as being a race and a culture

Debatable!

If it was then anti Semitism would not be seen as RACISM towards Jewish people

When Jews and zionists don't consider Jew to be a race and culture then it is debatable!

When zionists have to hijack a 'special' term 'anti-semitism' to define racism against Jews then race is at best questionable!

BULLSHIT and ISLAMOMORN propaganda as no one but the muslims have tried to hijack anti Semitism.

You lose again because you LIE

Get a grip Phoney. You never "win" an argument, you bullshit too much. By the way, what is an ISLAMOMORN? A Muslim-Mormon cross?

Shows that you are losing the argument when you have to use typo's to win points. I don't care what you think freddy boy as you are just a sad RACIST SPAMMER who LIES when they are being shown to be wrong. Another argument lost by you because you are too moronic to quit while you are behind.

 

[montelatici]

Thats right phoney... Well done...

I can become a Jew or a Muslim...

I cannot become an Arab....

What a racist schmuck you are!

However you cannot become a Jew by the racial definition.

Would that be because Jew is a religion then!

Judaism is the religion and Jewish is mostly reference for those living Isolated by these set of rules for thousands of years, similarly for Amish or Duruze.

You mean in the same way as Islam being the religion and Muslim being a follower of these sets of rules for thousands of years...

Nope, you can never become a Jewish descendant of Jacob genetically and therefore racially but you can choose to follow and practice Judaism as a non Jewish or a 'Ger'("Stranger") that within certain generations(not sure how many althought its specified) your decendants genetics will be considered Jewish while you and them will be allowed to marry with Jews so it does make sense, same applies for other religions obviously although none demand a specific heritage - a genetic one.

Wow, how generous of the Jews. LOL

 

[montelatici]

Debatable!

If it was then anti Semitism would not be seen as RACISM towards Jewish people

When Jews and zionists don't consider Jew to be a race and culture then it is debatable!

When zionists have to hijack a 'special' term 'anti-semitism' to define racism against Jews then race is at best questionable!

BULLSHIT and ISLAMOMORN propaganda as no one but the muslims have tried to hijack anti Semitism.

You lose again because you LIE

Get a grip Phoney. You never "win" an argument, you bullshit too much. By the way, what is an ISLAMOMORN? A Muslim-Mormon cross?

Shows that you are losing the argument when you have to use typo's to win points. I don't care what you think freddy boy as you are just a sad RACIST SPAMMER who LIES when they are being shown to be wrong. Another argument lost by you because you are too moronic to quit while you are behind.

I think everyone know who bullshits on this forum. In fact, you are known for your bullshitting on a few forums. I am always ahead of you, you clown.

 

[Humanity]

Netanyahu: Everyone knows, both rightists and leftists, that any territory surrendered by us, will become an Islamist hotbed of terrorists in Israel's midst.

Would that be because Jew is a religion then!

As well as being a race and a culture

Debatable!

If it was then anti Semitism would not be seen as RACISM towards Jewish people

When Jews and zionists don't consider Jew to be a race and culture then it is debatable!

When zionists have to hijack a 'special' term 'anti-semitism' to define racism against Jews then race is at best questionable!

Given in the post before this one that I answered.

Perhaps in your deluded mind Phoney...

Not enough capacity in there is there... Or perhaps all that brainwashing from marxists and now zionists have caused a few 'malfunctions' between your TWO brain cells!

 

[Humanity]

I can see where it applies to Zionists

Sure you can....

Anti-semitism Define Anti-semitism at Dictionary.com


discrimination against or prejudice or hostility toward Jews

Zionism is a political organisation and has NOTHING to do with Race, Religion, Culture, Creed or anything else...

Democrats, Republicans, Labour, Conservative etc etc etc...

Anti-semitism... A hijacked and over used term by zionists the world over!

I used to think that being "anti-semetic' was a seriously bad thing! Now, well, it's like using swear words... The more they are used the less impact they have!

 

[Humanity]

Would that be because Jew is a religion then!

As well as being a race and a culture

Debatable!

If it was then anti Semitism would not be seen as RACISM towards Jewish people

When Jews and zionists don't consider Jew to be a race and culture then it is debatable!

When zionists have to hijack a 'special' term 'anti-semitism' to define racism against Jews then race is at best questionable!

BULLSHIT and ISLAMOMORN propaganda as no one but the muslims have tried to hijack anti Semitism.

You lose again because you LIE

HAHAHAHA REALLY????

YOU COMPLETE COCK!

When have the Muslims tried to "hijack" the phrase "anti-semitism"?

The use of the term is WHOLLY Jewish propaganda!!! Jewish exclusivity to a term that relates to MANY different people!

 

[Humanity]

Netanyahu: Everyone knows, both rightists and leftists, that any territory surrendered by us, will become an Islamist hotbed of terrorists in Israel's midst.

Humanity, I translated the video link that you provided previously. It was the interview that Netanyahu gave to an Israeli journalist.

Yes you did... Thank you....

My Hebrew is scratchy at best but was able to get the idea of what was being said...

Though it didn't really help Phoney much did it?

He is STILL as deluded as ever!

 

[Humanity]

Thats right phoney... Well done...

I can become a Jew or a Muslim...

I cannot become an Arab....

What a racist schmuck you are!

However you cannot become a Jew by the racial definition.

Would that be because Jew is a religion then!

Judaism is the religion and Jewish is mostly reference for those living Isolated by these set of rules for thousands of years, similarly for Amish or Duruze.

You mean in the same way as Islam being the religion and Muslim being a follower of these sets of rules for thousands of years...

Nope, you can never become a Jewish descendant of Jacob genetically and therefore racially but you can choose to follow and practice Judaism as a non Jewish or a 'Ger'("Stranger") that within certain generations(not sure how many althought its specified) your decendants genetics will be considered Jewish while you and them will be allowed to marry with Jews so it does make sense, same applies for other religions obviously although none demand a specific heritage - a genetic one.

Can you not see how ridiculous that is?

So, under Jewish law, I can study Judaism...

Then, after a few generations, my kin can become "Jewish"....

WTF?!?!?!

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Netanyahu: Everyone knows, both rightists and leftists, that any territory surrendered by us, will become an Islamist hotbed of terrorists in Israel's midst.

Humanity, I translated the video link that you provided previously. It was the interview that Netanyahu gave to an Israeli journalist.

Yes you did... Thank you....

My Hebrew is scratchy at best but was able to get the idea of what was being said...

Though it didn't really help Phoney much did it?

He is STILL as deluded as ever!

So you're Jewish, Humanity? And pro-Palestinian? (If not, how do you know Hebrew?)

 

[Humanity]

Netanyahu: Everyone knows, both rightists and leftists, that any territory surrendered by us, will become an Islamist hotbed of terrorists in Israel's midst.

Humanity, I translated the video link that you provided previously. It was the interview that Netanyahu gave to an Israeli journalist.

Yes you did... Thank you....

My Hebrew is scratchy at best but was able to get the idea of what was being said...

Though it didn't really help Phoney much did it?

He is STILL as deluded as ever!

So you're Jewish, Humanity? And pro-Palestinian? (If not, how do you know Hebrew?)

Well, firstly, I know Jews who support the Palestinians.... That is not as unusual as you would think! Not all Jews are zionists, not all Jews believe that every Palestinian is a terrorist!

No, I am not Jewish and I do not follow Judaism... Neither am I Palestinian, Arab nor even Muslim... Far from it!

I know SOME Hebrew and I know SOME Arabic having traveled the region extensively for many years, for extended periods of time, including Israel. I can get by in both languages linguistically... Reading is more difficult for me but can get around newspapers etc...

Neither am I Russian, Chinese, Spanish (Latin based languages) nor Japanese but I can get by speaking these also....

So, you being able to translate the video link makes you Jewish?

 

[Daniyel]

However you cannot become a Jew by the racial definition.

Would that be because Jew is a religion then!

Judaism is the religion and Jewish is mostly reference for those living Isolated by these set of rules for thousands of years, similarly for Amish or Duruze.

You mean in the same way as Islam being the religion and Muslim being a follower of these sets of rules for thousands of years...

Nope, you can never become a Jewish descendant of Jacob genetically and therefore racially but you can choose to follow and practice Judaism as a non Jewish or a 'Ger'("Stranger") that within certain generations(not sure how many althought its specified) your decendants genetics will be considered Jewish while you and them will be allowed to marry with Jews so it does make sense, same applies for other religions obviously although none demand a specific heritage - a genetic one.

Can you not see how ridiculous that is?

So, under Jewish law, I can study Judaism...

Then, after a few generations, my kin can become "Jewish"....

WTF?!?!?!

Nope, you have completely misunderstood, you can study Judaism as much as you wish, if you believe in it but you did not born a Jew therefore the covenant with Abraham's descendants is not related to you genetically, in other words it has nothing to do with you since you are not in that covenant and none of the duties is applied to you as well as blessings - a testament , but you are also commanded with these Seven Laws of Noah - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
If you believe this is not enough for you and you wish to embrace God with all your heart then so be it, you'll pass a very long process that in the end you'll be a Jew by all means("Ger"), is there any sort of difference genetically? obviously not - you are still the same whatever you are but a Jewish as well, and you'll also marry a Jew - one of blood ties genetically all the way back to Abraham, which means at a certain point your descendants will share most of Jewish genetics as they keep on marrying Jews - and in the end you probably won't be able to change your race, but the race of your children, you can read more about it if you did not understood but basically there is the two options in terms of Judaism and one option in term of genetically being born a Jew although one of Jewish genetics (like myself for instance) can become a Muslim or a Christian if I chose to but my genetics would still point out I'm Jew.

 

[Humanity]

and in the end you probably won't be able to change your race, but the race of your children

REALLY?

Yes, I accept that you believe in all this but, come on, can you REALLY be serious?

I can change the race of my children?

WTF MAN!

Thats the EXACT reason why Jew is NOT a race!

It is a religion, a belief... Nothing more, nothing less...

YOU believe that it is possible to "change race"... I DON'T!

 

[Daniyel]

and in the end you probably won't be able to change your race, but the race of your children

REALLY?

Yes, I accept that you believe in all this but, come on, can you REALLY be serious?

I can change the race of my children?

WTF MAN!

Thats the EXACT reason why Jew is NOT a race!

It is a religion, a belief... Nothing more, nothing less...

YOU believe that it is possible to "change race"... I DON'T!

You insist on making the false conclusion here, so let me simplify that for you.
Have your experiment at home, pour into an empty cup half water and half of a colored liquid - you'll get a cup filled with the mixture of both, have another cup that in this one you'll pour half of the first cup and half of the liquid - you'll get another mixture that is closer to the liquid although not exactly the same but as you'll continue this cycle you'll get closer and closer although it would never be the same liquid nor water.
So this is the logic and it's pretty simple, all the same with genetics by it's principle, Jews were part of this ethnicity that was keeping the same genes sharing them only with Jews for centuries over centuries and in our time I could say more people are becoming secular but the more we look back in time people tended to be more religious so by that I can guarantee you more were keeping these specific set of rules which ties us directly to Abraham(that's why Jews call him 'Abraham Avino' have your friends translating you that) and so it is the fact we Jews are simply a race that is (almost entirely ) of one religion.

 

[Humanity]

and in the end you probably won't be able to change your race, but the race of your children

REALLY?

Yes, I accept that you believe in all this but, come on, can you REALLY be serious?

I can change the race of my children?

WTF MAN!

Thats the EXACT reason why Jew is NOT a race!

It is a religion, a belief... Nothing more, nothing less...

YOU believe that it is possible to "change race"... I DON'T!

You insist on making the false conclusion here, so let me simplify that for you.
Have your experiment at home, pour into an empty cup half water and half of a colored liquid - you'll get a cup filled with the mixture of both, have another cup that in this one you'll pour half of the first cup and half of the liquid - you'll get another mixture that is closer to the liquid although not exactly the same but as you'll continue this cycle you'll get closer and closer although it would never be the same liquid nor water.
So this is the logic and it's pretty simple, all the same with genetics by it's principle, Jews were part of this ethnicity that was keeping the same genes sharing them only with Jews for centuries over centuries and in our time I could say more people are becoming secular but the more we look back in time people tended to be more religious so by that I can guarantee you more were keeping these specific set of rules which ties us directly to Abraham(that's why Jews call him 'Abraham Avino' have your friends translating you that) and so it is the fact we Jews are simply a race that is (almost entirely ) of one religion.

Daniyel...

Let me make it even simpler for you...

Jew, Jewish, Judea, Judaism... Its religion... Not race...

Thats zionist brainwashing that has failed over the millennia and yet continues to this day...

Because you THINK you can trace your ancestry back to some bloke in the bible does NOT make you a "race"!

To suggest that mixing blood makes a race is just ridiculous... If that were the case then I would be, well, virtually any "race" I choose.. Through religion! See how in the real world, it just does not work!?!?

So, in the nicest possible way, take your cup of water and shove it where the sun REALLY does not shine (even though you like to think it does)

 

[montelatici]

And they say Nazi racial theories were absurd.

 

[Phoenall]

However you cannot become a Jew by the racial definition.

Would that be because Jew is a religion then!

Judaism is the religion and Jewish is mostly reference for those living Isolated by these set of rules for thousands of years, similarly for Amish or Duruze.

You mean in the same way as Islam being the religion and Muslim being a follower of these sets of rules for thousands of years...

Nope, you can never become a Jewish descendant of Jacob genetically and therefore racially but you can choose to follow and practice Judaism as a non Jewish or a 'Ger'("Stranger") that within certain generations(not sure how many althought its specified) your decendants genetics will be considered Jewish while you and them will be allowed to marry with Jews so it does make sense, same applies for other religions obviously although none demand a specific heritage - a genetic one.

Wow, how generous of the Jews. LOL

No different with the Catholics is it, look at the hoops Blair had to jump through before he could convert and he was P.M of the UK.