An interesting movie about the history of the I/P conflict

[teddyearp]

OK, this video is long and I usually dislike long, but I also posted that I do try to watch these videos/movies that are posted irregardless of who posts them. I usually watch these with my 'bell' on. You know, the one that rings with truth. Well this one does ring with a lot of truth. I cannot remember who posted it (maybe Amity?), but here's the link:



Anyways, I have a few dis jointed observations about this video.

One that really sticks in my mind is that (since it covers the period up until the 1948 declaration) it is repeatedly said that it wasthe British that did all the bad things to and for the Palestinians decline and woes. Sure it mentions the 'Zionists', but over and over again it says that it was the British who actually did the 'bad' things to the Palestinians. Maybe the Palestinians should blame the British instead of the Jews/Israelis? Especially since this was a pretty much pro Palestine movie.

It lays heavily to blame the Balfour declaration, yet fails to mention a single word about the McMahon-Hussein agreement. What you say? This one:

The McMahon Agreement

Farther on down the line, it totally skips over the Hebron Massacre of 1929:

1929 Hebron massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Then it goes on to talk about the amount of Jews allowed to immigrate in Palestine, claiming the highest year during those times: 1935. No mention of how the British put the kibosh on it afterwards, but of course did mention the bombing of the one boat (sorry, cannot remember) to, as it said, strike up sympathy.

And yes, the Irgun, the Palmach, and others were a dark mark on Israel because of course, the bombing of the King David hotel is highlighted.

However, the other things are also mentioned in this video; how the Palestinians have never had any one who would actually stand for them without removing their tribal loyalty (kind of like most of the Muslim/Islamic world); what I mean is that they never could organize then and never will. I'll just leave that there, 'nuff said.

The best part for me was the parting shot by the British speaker to the UN when the British decided to give up their 'Mandate', (the latter part of which of course is left out of said documentary) he said that the British were tired of the hatred from the Jews, and the Arabs.

You see, even when you get a video posted by the 'other guys' one only has to actually watch it to fill it full of holes.

Let the ....... begin.

p.s. I forgot to address the Peel commission, maybe I'll save that for another post.

 

[P F Tinmore]

OK, this video is long and I usually dislike long, but I also posted that I do try to watch these videos/movies that are posted irregardless of who posts them. I usually watch these with my 'bell' on. You know, the one that rings with truth. Well this one does ring with a lot of truth. I cannot remember who posted it (maybe Amity?), but here's the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm7dMhE80dw

Anyways, I have a few dis jointed observations about this video.

One that really sticks in my mind is that (since it covers the period up until the 1948 declaration) it is repeatedly said that it wasthe British that did all the bad things to and for the Palestinians decline and woes. Sure it mentions the 'Zionists', but over and over again it says that it was the British who actually did the 'bad' things to the Palestinians. Maybe the Palestinians should blame the British instead of the Jews/Israelis? Especially since this was a pretty much pro Palestine movie.

It lays heavily to blame the Balfour declaration, yet fails to mention a single word about the McMahon-Hussein agreement. What you say? This one:

The McMahon Agreement

Farther on down the line, it totally skips over the Hebron Massacre of 1929:

1929 Hebron massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Then it goes on to talk about the amount of Jews allowed to immigrate in Palestine, claiming the highest year during those times: 1935. No mention of how the British put the kibosh on it afterwards, but of course did mention the bombing of the one boat (sorry, cannot remember) to, as it said, strike up sympathy.

And yes, the Irgun, the Palmach, and others were a dark mark on Israel because of course, the bombing of the King David hotel is highlighted.

However, the other things are also mentioned in this video; how the Palestinians have never had any one who would actually stand for them without removing their tribal loyalty (kind of like most of the Muslim/Islamic world); what I mean is that they never could organize then and never will. I'll just leave that there, 'nuff said.

The best part for me was the parting shot by the British speaker to the UN when the British decided to give up their 'Mandate', (the latter part of which of course is left out of said documentary) he said that the British were tired of the hatred from the Jews, and the Arabs.

You see, even when you get a video posted by the 'other guys' one only has to actually watch it to fill it full of holes.

Let the ....... begin.

p.s. I forgot to address the Peel commission, maybe I'll save that for another post.

Good post, thanks.

The British did all the bad things because that is what the Zionists recruited them to do. Early on the Zionists had no military power so it was Britain who had to do the dirty work.

The Palestinians raised a big enough stink to push Britain to issue the 1939 White Paper.

"Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that `Palestine is to become as Jewish as England is English.' His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated .... the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the (Balfour) Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded IN PALESTINE."

But this statement has not removed doubts, and His Majesty's Government therefore now declare unequivocally that it is not part of their policy that Palestine should become a Jewish State. They would indeed regard it as contrary to their obligations to the Arabs under the Mandate, as well as to the assurances which have been given to the Arab people in the past, that the Arab population of Palestine should be made the subjects of a Jewish State against their will.

The Avalon Project : British White Paper of 1939

The Zionists saw this as a betrayal and started attacking the British. The King David Hotel was the most obvious attack.

Britain was getting shot at from both sides. It cut and ran leaving the war it started to fester until today.

 

[MHunterB]

Wow, Tinny - you're expecting us to believe that the Brits took orders from 'the Zionists'. And of course you can explain why that would have been, right? And you've got lots of documentation of your supposed 'reasons', too?

Let's see that documentation.......

 

[P F Tinmore]

Wow, Tinny - you're expecting us to believe that the Brits took orders from 'the Zionists'. And of course you can explain why that would have been, right? And you've got lots of documentation of your supposed 'reasons', too?

Let's see that documentation.......

You want to discuss the movie before you watch it?

 

[Daniyel]

Wow, Tinny - you're expecting us to believe that the Brits took orders from 'the Zionists'. And of course you can explain why that would have been, right? And you've got lots of documentation of your supposed 'reasons', too?

Let's see that documentation.......

You want to discuss the movie before you watch it?

That is why the limited the immigration to Israel? Or that is why they abstained their vote in the UN? Enlighten us with another conspiracy Tinmore.

 

[irosie91]

Wow, Tinny - you're expecting us to believe that the Brits took orders from 'the Zionists'. And of course you can explain why that would have been, right? And you've got lots of documentation of your supposed 'reasons', too?

Let's see that documentation.......

You want to discuss the movie before you watch it?

That is why the limited the immigration to Israel? Or that is why they abstained their vote in the UN? Enlighten us with another conspiracy Tinmore.

I will explain------da joooos in great Britain controlled the media and da banks----
and they forced the brits to do the ZIONIST thing It has been going on all
over the world for the past 2000 years. Even today---da queen is controlled by
her jooooish gastroenterologist

 

[Daniyel]

You want to discuss the movie before you watch it?

That is why the limited the immigration to Israel? Or that is why they abstained their vote in the UN? Enlighten us with another conspiracy Tinmore.

I will explain------da joooos in great Britain controlled the media and da banks----
and they forced the brits to do the ZIONIST thing It has been going on all
over the world for the past 2000 years. Even today---da queen is controlled by
her jooooish gastroenterologist

"Be mercy on the cruel, and you will end up being cruel to the merciful." and here we are Tinmore.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

That is why the limited the immigration to Israel? Or that is why they abstained their vote in the UN? Enlighten us with another conspiracy Tinmore.

I will explain------da joooos in great Britain controlled the media and da banks----
and they forced the brits to do the ZIONIST thing It has been going on all
over the world for the past 2000 years. Even today---da queen is controlled by
her jooooish gastroenterologist

"Be mercy on the cruel, and you will end up being cruel to the merciful." and here we are Tinmore.

That quote about "the merciful and cruel" comes from King Saul. The prophet Samuel told Saul to take revenge on the Amalekites, a vicious tribe that tried to wipe out the Israelites in the past. King Saul had mercy on Agag, the Amalekite king, and allowed him to live. His descendants have included Haman and Hitler, may their names be blotted out. Later on, this same "merciful" Saul wound up killing a whole city of Kohanim (priests), and their families, simply for providing refuge to David.

 

[irosie91]

I will explain------da joooos in great Britain controlled the media and da banks----
and they forced the brits to do the ZIONIST thing It has been going on all
over the world for the past 2000 years. Even today---da queen is controlled by
her jooooish gastroenterologist

"Be mercy on the cruel, and you will end up being cruel to the merciful." and here we are Tinmore.

That quote about "the merciful and cruel" comes from King Saul. The prophet Samuel told Saul to take revenge on the Amalekites, a vicious tribe that tried to wipe out the Israelites in the past. King Saul had mercy on Agag, the Amalekite king, and allowed him to live. His descendants have included Haman and Hitler, may their names be blotted out. Later on, this same "merciful" Saul wound up killing a whole city of Kohanim (priests), and their families, simply for providing refuge to David.

Saul was a tragic hero-----Sophocles could have written a play about him

 

[teddyearp]

Wow, Tinny - you're expecting us to believe that the Brits took orders from 'the Zionists'. And of course you can explain why that would have been, right? And you've got lots of documentation of your supposed 'reasons', too?

Let's see that documentation.......

This is kind of what I am thinking. the British at the time were still in empire mode, why would they take orders from the Zionists?