Alt-right protestor loses job after being outed

[dblack]

And the business owner serving mostly conservative Christian customers, who don't want to give their money to 'deviants', could offer the same excuse for firing a known homosexual, right?

Nope, that is hate,the homosexual employee has no choice. The nazi does.

So does the queer.

That's debatable, and the debate is over science, which isn't really relevant to the argument. But clearly a socialist has a choice. Or a Christian or a Muslim. Tommy Tainant, Dragonlady - what say you? Should a business owner be allowed to fire a socialist, or a Christian, or a Muslim, if their beliefs caused the business "disrepute" with its customers?

The simple and obvious answer is "no". But it sure is fun to watch these two contort themselves into knots trying find a way to discriminate against those they dont like; while trying to pass themselves off as tolerant of diversity. The answer is simple. Theyre hipocrites. And only push tolerance of what they support. And shout down, and try to silence that which they dont support. Typical fascism.

Diversity has nothing to do with whether or not to fire a Nazi.

Your example of whether to fire a person who is gay when your customers are conservative Christians is a logical fallacy since being gay doesn't impact how the employees treat others, which is the point of the discussion.

Well, ok. Earlier you said - "... If you have anyone on your team who is disruptive to the work you're doing, they're a bad fit regardless of the skills they bring." so I was going by that.

 

[Vastator]

And the business owner serving mostly conservative Christian customers, who don't want to give their money to 'deviants', could offer the same excuse for firing a known homosexual, right?

Nope, that is hate,the homosexual employee has no choice. The nazi does.

So does the queer.

That's debatable, and the debate is over science, which isn't really relevant to the argument. But clearly a socialist has a choice. Or a Christian or a Muslim. Tommy Tainant, Dragonlady - what say you? Should a business owner be allowed to fire a socialist, or a Christian, or a Muslim, if their beliefs caused the business "disrepute" with its customers?

The simple and obvious answer is "no". But it sure is fun to watch these two contort themselves into knots trying find a way to discriminate against those they dont like; while trying to pass themselves off as tolerant of diversity. The answer is simple. Theyre hipocrites. And only push tolerance of what they support. And shout down, and try to silence that which they dont support. Typical fascism.

Diversity has nothing to do with whether or not to fire a Nazi.

Your example of whether to fire a person who is gay when your customers are conservative Christians is a logical fallacy since being gay doesn't impact how the employees treat others, which is the point of the discussion.

Being a white supremacist doesn't have to effect fellow employees, or customers either. It's a choice Same as religion. Except quite a few Muslims have killed the people they work with. So...

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Its just business. People dont want to give their money to haters so his Boss was protecting his business.

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Every contract I have ever signed had a clause in it that stated I could be sacked if my out of work behaviour brought the company into disrepute by association.
So march with the KKK and find another job.

And the business owner serving mostly conservative Christian customers, who don't want to give their money to 'deviants', could offer the same excuse for firing a known homosexual, right?

Nope, that is hate,the homosexual employee has no choice. The nazi does.

So does the queer.

That's debatable, and the debate is over science, which isn't really relevant to the argument. But clearly a socialist has a choice. Or a Christian or a Muslim. Tommy Tainant, Dragonlady - what say you? Should a business owner be allowed to fire a socialist, or a Christian, or a Muslim, if their beliefs caused the business "disrepute" with its customers?

What have they done to be fired ?

 

[Vastator]

Its just business. People dont want to give their money to haters so his Boss was protecting his business.

...

Every contract I have ever signed had a clause in it that stated I could be sacked if my out of work behaviour brought the company into disrepute by association.
So march with the KKK and find another job.

And the business owner serving mostly conservative Christian customers, who don't want to give their money to 'deviants', could offer the same excuse for firing a known homosexual, right?

Nope, that is hate,the homosexual employee has no choice. The nazi does.

So does the queer.

That's debatable, and the debate is over science, which isn't really relevant to the argument. But clearly a socialist has a choice. Or a Christian or a Muslim. Tommy Tainant, Dragonlady - what say you? Should a business owner be allowed to fire a socialist, or a Christian, or a Muslim, if their beliefs caused the business "disrepute" with its customers?

What have they done to be fired ?

The same needs to be asked of a white nationalist. Leave your baggage at home, and youll do just fine. White nationlist, muslim, christian, republican, or democrat. Simple.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

And the business owner serving mostly conservative Christian customers, who don't want to give their money to 'deviants', could offer the same excuse for firing a known homosexual, right?

Nope, that is hate,the homosexual employee has no choice. The nazi does.

So does the queer.

That's debatable, and the debate is over science, which isn't really relevant to the argument. But clearly a socialist has a choice. Or a Christian or a Muslim. Tommy Tainant, Dragonlady - what say you? Should a business owner be allowed to fire a socialist, or a Christian, or a Muslim, if their beliefs caused the business "disrepute" with its customers?

What have they done to be fired ?

The same needs to be asked of a white nationalist. Leave your baggage at home, and youll do just fine. White nationlist, muslim, christian, republican, or democrat. Simple.

Nope. White nationalists do not belong in decent society. Its dishonest tot sneak them in with decent people.

 

[dblack]

Its just business. People dont want to give their money to haters so his Boss was protecting his business.

...

Every contract I have ever signed had a clause in it that stated I could be sacked if my out of work behaviour brought the company into disrepute by association.
So march with the KKK and find another job.

And the business owner serving mostly conservative Christian customers, who don't want to give their money to 'deviants', could offer the same excuse for firing a known homosexual, right?

Nope, that is hate,the homosexual employee has no choice. The nazi does.

So does the queer.

That's debatable, and the debate is over science, which isn't really relevant to the argument. But clearly a socialist has a choice. Or a Christian or a Muslim. Tommy Tainant, Dragonlady - what say you? Should a business owner be allowed to fire a socialist, or a Christian, or a Muslim, if their beliefs caused the business "disrepute" with its customers?

What have they done to be fired ?

I'm not going to debate imagined particulars of a hypothetical. If you can't see the common principle in question, there's not much point in discussing it.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

And the business owner serving mostly conservative Christian customers, who don't want to give their money to 'deviants', could offer the same excuse for firing a known homosexual, right?

Nope, that is hate,the homosexual employee has no choice. The nazi does.

So does the queer.

That's debatable, and the debate is over science, which isn't really relevant to the argument. But clearly a socialist has a choice. Or a Christian or a Muslim. Tommy Tainant, Dragonlady - what say you? Should a business owner be allowed to fire a socialist, or a Christian, or a Muslim, if their beliefs caused the business "disrepute" with its customers?

What have they done to be fired ?

I'm not going to debate imagined particulars of a hypothetical. If you can't see the common principle in question, there's not much point in discussing it.

Well you want to equate nazis with decent folk. There is no debate to be had from that starting point. On yer bike kid.

 

[dblack]

Nope, that is hate,the homosexual employee has no choice. The nazi does.

So does the queer.

That's debatable, and the debate is over science, which isn't really relevant to the argument. But clearly a socialist has a choice. Or a Christian or a Muslim. Tommy Tainant, Dragonlady - what say you? Should a business owner be allowed to fire a socialist, or a Christian, or a Muslim, if their beliefs caused the business "disrepute" with its customers?

What have they done to be fired ?

I'm not going to debate imagined particulars of a hypothetical. If you can't see the common principle in question, there's not much point in discussing it.

Well you want to equate nazis with decent folk. There is no debate to be had from that starting point. On yer bike kid.

I think it's just that some of you too dumb to see things in terms of abstract principles. Which leaves you with nothing more than your gut to tell you right from wrong.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

So does the queer.

That's debatable, and the debate is over science, which isn't really relevant to the argument. But clearly a socialist has a choice. Or a Christian or a Muslim. Tommy Tainant, Dragonlady - what say you? Should a business owner be allowed to fire a socialist, or a Christian, or a Muslim, if their beliefs caused the business "disrepute" with its customers?

What have they done to be fired ?

I'm not going to debate imagined particulars of a hypothetical. If you can't see the common principle in question, there's not much point in discussing it.

Well you want to equate nazis with decent folk. There is no debate to be had from that starting point. On yer bike kid.

I think it's just that some of you too dumb to see things in terms of abstract principles. Which leaves you with nothing more than your gut to tell you right from wrong.

The principle is this. Nazis = bad, other folk not bad. To pretend that there is some other reality makes me question your values. Are you the fascists friend ?

 

[dblack]

That's debatable, and the debate is over science, which isn't really relevant to the argument. But clearly a socialist has a choice. Or a Christian or a Muslim. Tommy Tainant, Dragonlady - what say you? Should a business owner be allowed to fire a socialist, or a Christian, or a Muslim, if their beliefs caused the business "disrepute" with its customers?

What have they done to be fired ?

I'm not going to debate imagined particulars of a hypothetical. If you can't see the common principle in question, there's not much point in discussing it.

Well you want to equate nazis with decent folk. There is no debate to be had from that starting point. On yer bike kid.

I think it's just that some of you too dumb to see things in terms of abstract principles. Which leaves you with nothing more than your gut to tell you right from wrong.

The principle is this. Nazis = bad, other folk not bad. To pretend that there is some other reality makes me question your values. Are you the fascists friend ?

You're an idiot and a hypocrite. You don't have have a problem with employers firing people based on their personal values, as long as their personal values align with yours. That's what all you statists are about. In your view, the entire purpose of government is to force your values on others. Suck a tailpipe.

 

[Vastator]

Nope, that is hate,the homosexual employee has no choice. The nazi does.

So does the queer.

That's debatable, and the debate is over science, which isn't really relevant to the argument. But clearly a socialist has a choice. Or a Christian or a Muslim. Tommy Tainant, Dragonlady - what say you? Should a business owner be allowed to fire a socialist, or a Christian, or a Muslim, if their beliefs caused the business "disrepute" with its customers?

What have they done to be fired ?

The same needs to be asked of a white nationalist. Leave your baggage at home, and youll do just fine. White nationlist, muslim, christian, republican, or democrat. Simple.

Nope. White nationalists do not belong in decent society. Its dishonest tot sneak them in with decent people.

Your personal tastes, beliefs, and feelings are irrelevant when it comes to evenhandedly applying laws, and protecting rights. This may come as a shock to you, so I hope you're sitting down for this... You do not get to dictate for everyone else, who and what, have a place in civilized society. And your blanket assertion that eveyone else youve chosen to defend are "good people" reveal that your bias is such that; you cannot give an objective opinion on the application of freedoms, and laws.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Cant believe that there are people who can defend these roaches. Let me repeat the obvious. Fascists are the dregs of our society. They dont just have " a different view" or a "differing set of values".

Their only emotion is hate, they are human effluent and need to be purged from all decent society. The last war should have done that but obviously not. The ideology still has an attraction amongst people who have failed and need a scapegoat, pinheads with small cocks and similar.

Not every view has a value, this isnt a dem v republican type debate. Its civilisation v the underbelly of society.

 

[dblack]

Cant believe that there are people who can defend these roaches. Let me repeat the obvious. Fascists are the dregs of our society. They dont just have " a different view" or a "differing set of values".

Their only emotion is hate, they are human effluent and need to be purged from all decent society. The last war should have done that but obviously not. The ideology still has an attraction amongst people who have failed and need a scapegoat, pinheads with small cocks and similar.

Not every view has a value, this isnt a dem v republican type debate. Its civilisation v the underbelly of society.

If you think I'm defending the fascists, you're even dumber than I thought.