Exceptions get you out of the military, ask trump about that.
Air Force is first to face troops' rejection of vaccine mandate as thousands avoid shots
Up to 12,000 Air Force personnel have rejected orders to get fully vaccinated against the coronavirus despite a Pentagon mandate and officials say it is too late for them to do so by Tuesday's deadline, posing a first major test for military leaders whose August directive has been met with...news.yahoo.com
Up to 12,000 Air Force personnel have rejected orders to get fully vaccinated against the coronavirus despite a Pentagon mandate and officials say it is too late for them to do so by Tuesday's deadline, posing a first major test for military leaders whose August directive has been met with defiance among a segment of the force.
The vast majority of active-duty airmen, 96.4%, are at least partially vaccinated, according to data from the Air Force. But officials have warned that, barring an approved medical or religious exemption, those who defy lawful orders to be fully immunized are subject to punishment, including possible dismissal from the service or they could be charged in the military justice system.
Mandates are not looking too slick these days.
Air Force said NO. 12K of them.
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Wild Bill Kelsoe
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This isn't a lawful order.
You don't understand, pandemics are now deemed more dangerous than any human enemy and are given priority. Military unity and readiness is of the utmost importance. The military cannot be ready if if a huge number of its forces are out sick. If you think Covid is over you're kidding yourself. This thing has mutated so many times it isn't funny and it's not done with us yet. A super killer strain is very possible in the near future. The military is taking all precautions. There are no exemptions, exemptions get you out of the military in this case as they doing most cases.
bugs
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Hmm.. Seems I Recall Actually BEING in the Military..
Getting out is EASY.
STAYING in is HARD..
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Is that on the right side of your pillow or your bed?
I never knew fighting for the integrity of an election system could destroy a nation. But it can destroy the corrupt control of our elections seized by the Far Left.
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Can't blame the enlisted for refusing a mandate that is unsubstantiated, unconstitutional, and not legal, but we are talking government aren't we ?
Look, this is basically what's going on in all of this bullcrap anyways.....
First we had the mask mandates before the shot, and we all know how that went over (like a turd in a punch bowl).
Everyone wouldn't wear a mask in which is understandable, so the one's that would, and we're taking it to the extreme (i.e. wearing a mask in their car while driving by themselves or wearing one while out walking or jogging by themselves or wearing one in their homes or personal spaces, otherwise doing so while no one else was around yet they still took it to the extreme, and expected others to do the same), uhhh and that didn't go over so well..
So when they were looked upon by other's who were scratching their heads about what it was that they (these mask wearers with no threat around them were doing), and then out of extreme curiosity they were maybe asked why they were being extremists on the mask wearing like that (?), then that's when the mask wearing "extremists" got angry as hell about it all, and so they felt as if they were being looked down upon, so of course they wanted to get even bigly after that.
What better way to do that ? Get the government to force compliance on everyone regardless of the science or how extreme the mask wearing marauders were acting about it all while not knowing the science or making it up as they go for themselves and everyone else.
So then out comes the government mask mandates for everyone to comply, and that was going to finally get vengeance for the mask wearing marauders, because they were being looked down upon or so they thought, and now their leftist controlled government is going to make everyone equal or bust hell wide open trying for them.
Didn't work, because people still ignored the mask mandate, and they figured "hey if you want to wear a mask, then you do you", because I'm not sick, not running a fever, and I ain't wearing the mask that is unproven against a virus like this one anyways (i.e. lots still coming down with it, although they were masking up, gloving up, and riding in cars by themselves in this way, walking and jogging by themselves in this way, staying home, not going out except for essentials, and still catching the thing no matter what they did or how they protected themselves be it with gloves, mask, face shields etc).
And nope those who weren't sick, and were living normal lives be it working, playing, and keeping the economy going, uhhhh they weren't going to give in to the extremists, otherwise who were extremely masked up, gloved up, staying home, not working, and social distancing, (had since been vaccinated), but still they are catching the damned thing, and some are still dying because herd immunity hasn't been reached yet via natural immunity.
Stoping alternative treatments or therapies, all because the government ordered up million's of doses of these so called vaccine's to inject into everyone's arms equally, (and this be it come hell or high water all because it has done this), is the biggest scam this nation has ever experienced against our freedom's. We have to seek second opinions on medicines, alternative treatments or therapies that have been proven also against this virus, so the government stopping us is a tyrannical act in my opinion.
Saw where a man went into a Walgreens with a written prescription from his doctor for ivermectin, and the pharmacist wouldn't fill it because he claimed that ivermectin wasn't authorized to treat Covid, and he wasn't allowed to fill it ? Who made this rule, and then sent the memo out to pharmacies to not fill prescriptions for alternative medicines to help treat the patient with Covid, even if that's what his doctor prescribed for him ?
Was it the federal government involved ?? If so, then what is happening is that the government invested in these million's of doses of these vaccine's, and no citizen is going to go around that. This is tyranny folks.
So I guess that it was illegal or it would be now for me to have gotten a prescription for doxycycline when I had the Covid or is it illegal to give lung steroid inhalers to those with Covid symptoms or Z-packs for those with Covid symptoms or other proven therapies ?
You all know that the left even tried to pull as a next narrative, otherwise to suggest that for those who don't get the shot, then they shouldn't be allowed into a hospital or allowed to get transplants, and on and on and on it all goes while they take the liberty of toying with your lives in these ways. Disgusting.
All options should be promoted equally, and all options available, because none of us are the same, and we shouldn't be discriminated against it herded like cattle in such ways. We see how the Nazi's like to herd human cattle didn't we ??
I thought the left was super into diversity, but it appears that it stops at the government door unless conservatives are in charge, then they push diversity like there isn't any other remedy for America to survive except through total diversity.
Look, this is basically what's going on in all of this bullcrap anyways.....
First we had the mask mandates before the shot, and we all know how that went over (like a turd in a punch bowl).
Everyone wouldn't wear a mask in which is understandable, so the one's that would, and we're taking it to the extreme (i.e. wearing a mask in their car while driving by themselves or wearing one while out walking or jogging by themselves or wearing one in their homes or personal spaces, otherwise doing so while no one else was around yet they still took it to the extreme, and expected others to do the same), uhhh and that didn't go over so well..
So when they were looked upon by other's who were scratching their heads about what it was that they (these mask wearers with no threat around them were doing), and then out of extreme curiosity they were maybe asked why they were being extremists on the mask wearing like that (?), then that's when the mask wearing "extremists" got angry as hell about it all, and so they felt as if they were being looked down upon, so of course they wanted to get even bigly after that.
What better way to do that ? Get the government to force compliance on everyone regardless of the science or how extreme the mask wearing marauders were acting about it all while not knowing the science or making it up as they go for themselves and everyone else.
So then out comes the government mask mandates for everyone to comply, and that was going to finally get vengeance for the mask wearing marauders, because they were being looked down upon or so they thought, and now their leftist controlled government is going to make everyone equal or bust hell wide open trying for them.
Didn't work, because people still ignored the mask mandate, and they figured "hey if you want to wear a mask, then you do you", because I'm not sick, not running a fever, and I ain't wearing the mask that is unproven against a virus like this one anyways (i.e. lots still coming down with it, although they were masking up, gloving up, and riding in cars by themselves in this way, walking and jogging by themselves in this way, staying home, not going out except for essentials, and still catching the thing no matter what they did or how they protected themselves be it with gloves, mask, face shields etc).
And nope those who weren't sick, and were living normal lives be it working, playing, and keeping the economy going, uhhhh they weren't going to give in to the extremists, otherwise who were extremely masked up, gloved up, staying home, not working, and social distancing, (had since been vaccinated), but still they are catching the damned thing, and some are still dying because herd immunity hasn't been reached yet via natural immunity.
Stoping alternative treatments or therapies, all because the government ordered up million's of doses of these so called vaccine's to inject into everyone's arms equally, (and this be it come hell or high water all because it has done this), is the biggest scam this nation has ever experienced against our freedom's. We have to seek second opinions on medicines, alternative treatments or therapies that have been proven also against this virus, so the government stopping us is a tyrannical act in my opinion.
Saw where a man went into a Walgreens with a written prescription from his doctor for ivermectin, and the pharmacist wouldn't fill it because he claimed that ivermectin wasn't authorized to treat Covid, and he wasn't allowed to fill it ? Who made this rule, and then sent the memo out to pharmacies to not fill prescriptions for alternative medicines to help treat the patient with Covid, even if that's what his doctor prescribed for him ?
Was it the federal government involved ?? If so, then what is happening is that the government invested in these million's of doses of these vaccine's, and no citizen is going to go around that. This is tyranny folks.
So I guess that it was illegal or it would be now for me to have gotten a prescription for doxycycline when I had the Covid or is it illegal to give lung steroid inhalers to those with Covid symptoms or Z-packs for those with Covid symptoms or other proven therapies ?
You all know that the left even tried to pull as a next narrative, otherwise to suggest that for those who don't get the shot, then they shouldn't be allowed into a hospital or allowed to get transplants, and on and on and on it all goes while they take the liberty of toying with your lives in these ways. Disgusting.
All options should be promoted equally, and all options available, because none of us are the same, and we shouldn't be discriminated against it herded like cattle in such ways. We see how the Nazi's like to herd human cattle didn't we ??
I thought the left was super into diversity, but it appears that it stops at the government door unless conservatives are in charge, then they push diversity like there isn't any other remedy for America to survive except through total diversity.
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according to the only people that count it is...nobody gives a **** about your opinion on it
progressive hunter
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do you care about the opinions of the service men that dont want to take it??
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I know. "Just doing your job", right? HEIL! *clicking heels*
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nope. They follow orders or they get out. That is the way it worked in my 20 years in, that is the way it should still work.
progressive hunter
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youre leaving out their oaths,,
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Their oath to follow orders given to them...that oath?
"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
Did you ever bother to serve?
progressive hunter
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their oath says other things,,
beagle9
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Can't blame the enlisted for refusing a mandate that is unsubstantiated, unconstitutional, and not legal, but we are talking government aren't we ?
Look, this is basically what's going on in all of this bullcrap anyways.....
First we had the mask mandates before the shot, and we all know how that went over (like a turd in a punch bowl).
Everyone wouldn't wear a mask in which is understandable, so the one's that would, and we're taking it to the extreme (i.e. wearing a mask in their car while driving by themselves or wearing one while out walking or jogging by themselves or wearing one in their homes or personal spaces, otherwise doing so while no one else was around yet they still took it to the extreme, and expected others to do the same), uhhh and that didn't go over so well..
So when they were looked upon by other's who were scratching their heads about what it was that they (these mask wearers with no threat around them were doing), and then out of extreme curiosity they were maybe asked why they were being extremists on the mask wearing like that (?), then that's when the mask wearing "extremists" got angry as hell about it all, and so they felt as if they were being looked down upon, so of course they wanted to get even bigly after that.
What better way to do that ? Get the government to force compliance on everyone regardless of the science or how extreme the mask wearing marauders were acting about it all while not knowing the science or making it up as they go for themselves and everyone else.
So then out comes the government mask mandates for everyone to comply, and that was going to finally get vengeance for the mask wearing marauders because they were being looked down upon or so they thought, and now their leftist controlled government is going to make everyone equal or bust hell wide open trying for them.
Didn't work, because people still ignored the mask mandate, and they figured "hey if you want to wear a mask, then you do you", because I'm not sick, not running a fever, and I ain't wearing the mask that is unproven against a virus like this one anyways (i.e. lots still coming down with it, although they were masking up, gloving up, and riding in cars by themselves in this way, walking and jogging by themselves in this way, staying home, not going out except for essentials, and still catching the thing no matter what they did or how they protected themselves be it with gloves, mask, face shields etc).
And nope those who weren't sick, and were living normal lives be it working, playing, and keeping the economy going, uhhhh they weren't going to give in to the extremists, otherwise who were extremely masked up, gloved up, staying home, not working, and social distancing, (had since been vaccinated), but still they are catching the damned thing, and some are still dying because herd immunity hasn't been reached yet via natural immunity.
Stoping alternative treatments or therapies because the government ordered up million's of doses of these so called vaccine's to inject into everyone's arms equally, and this be it come hell or high water all because it has done this, is the biggest scam this nation has ever experienced against our freedom's......... Many want to seek second opinions on medicines, alternative treatments or therapies that have been proven also against this virus. Example: I saw on the B-Tatum show where a man went into a Walgreens with a written prescription from his doctor for ivermectin, and the pharmacist wouldn't fill it because he claimed that ivermectin wasn't authorized to treat Covid, and he wasn't allowed to fill it ? Who made this rule, and then sent the memo out to pharmacies to not fill prescriptions for alternative medicines to help treat the patient with Covid, even if that's what his doctor prescribed for him ? Was it the federal government involved ?? If so, then what is happening is that the government invested in these million's of doses of these vaccine's, and no citizen is going to go around that. This is tyranny folks.
So I guess that it was illegal or it would be now for me to have gotten a prescription for doxycycline when I had the Covid or is it illegal to give lung steroid inhalers to those with Covid symptoms or Z-packs for those with Covid symptoms ? You all know what the left even tried to pull as the next narrative, otherwise to suggest that for those who don't get the shot, then they shouldn't be allowed into a hospital or allowed to get transplants, and on and on and on it goes while they take the liberty of toying with your lives in these ways. Disgusting.
All options should be promoted equally, and all options available, because none of us are the same, and we shouldn't be discriminated against or herded like cattle in such ways. We see how the Nazi's like to herd human cattle didn't we ??
I thought the left was super into diversity, but it appears that it stops at the government door unless conservatives are in charge, then they push diversity like there isn't any other remedy for America to survive except through total diversity.
Look, this is basically what's going on in all of this bullcrap anyways.....
First we had the mask mandates before the shot, and we all know how that went over (like a turd in a punch bowl).
Everyone wouldn't wear a mask in which is understandable, so the one's that would, and we're taking it to the extreme (i.e. wearing a mask in their car while driving by themselves or wearing one while out walking or jogging by themselves or wearing one in their homes or personal spaces, otherwise doing so while no one else was around yet they still took it to the extreme, and expected others to do the same), uhhh and that didn't go over so well..
So when they were looked upon by other's who were scratching their heads about what it was that they (these mask wearers with no threat around them were doing), and then out of extreme curiosity they were maybe asked why they were being extremists on the mask wearing like that (?), then that's when the mask wearing "extremists" got angry as hell about it all, and so they felt as if they were being looked down upon, so of course they wanted to get even bigly after that.
What better way to do that ? Get the government to force compliance on everyone regardless of the science or how extreme the mask wearing marauders were acting about it all while not knowing the science or making it up as they go for themselves and everyone else.
So then out comes the government mask mandates for everyone to comply, and that was going to finally get vengeance for the mask wearing marauders because they were being looked down upon or so they thought, and now their leftist controlled government is going to make everyone equal or bust hell wide open trying for them.
Didn't work, because people still ignored the mask mandate, and they figured "hey if you want to wear a mask, then you do you", because I'm not sick, not running a fever, and I ain't wearing the mask that is unproven against a virus like this one anyways (i.e. lots still coming down with it, although they were masking up, gloving up, and riding in cars by themselves in this way, walking and jogging by themselves in this way, staying home, not going out except for essentials, and still catching the thing no matter what they did or how they protected themselves be it with gloves, mask, face shields etc).
And nope those who weren't sick, and were living normal lives be it working, playing, and keeping the economy going, uhhhh they weren't going to give in to the extremists, otherwise who were extremely masked up, gloved up, staying home, not working, and social distancing, (had since been vaccinated), but still they are catching the damned thing, and some are still dying because herd immunity hasn't been reached yet via natural immunity.
Stoping alternative treatments or therapies because the government ordered up million's of doses of these so called vaccine's to inject into everyone's arms equally, and this be it come hell or high water all because it has done this, is the biggest scam this nation has ever experienced against our freedom's......... Many want to seek second opinions on medicines, alternative treatments or therapies that have been proven also against this virus. Example: I saw on the B-Tatum show where a man went into a Walgreens with a written prescription from his doctor for ivermectin, and the pharmacist wouldn't fill it because he claimed that ivermectin wasn't authorized to treat Covid, and he wasn't allowed to fill it ? Who made this rule, and then sent the memo out to pharmacies to not fill prescriptions for alternative medicines to help treat the patient with Covid, even if that's what his doctor prescribed for him ? Was it the federal government involved ?? If so, then what is happening is that the government invested in these million's of doses of these vaccine's, and no citizen is going to go around that. This is tyranny folks.
So I guess that it was illegal or it would be now for me to have gotten a prescription for doxycycline when I had the Covid or is it illegal to give lung steroid inhalers to those with Covid symptoms or Z-packs for those with Covid symptoms ? You all know what the left even tried to pull as the next narrative, otherwise to suggest that for those who don't get the shot, then they shouldn't be allowed into a hospital or allowed to get transplants, and on and on and on it goes while they take the liberty of toying with your lives in these ways. Disgusting.
All options should be promoted equally, and all options available, because none of us are the same, and we shouldn't be discriminated against or herded like cattle in such ways. We see how the Nazi's like to herd human cattle didn't we ??
I thought the left was super into diversity, but it appears that it stops at the government door unless conservatives are in charge, then they push diversity like there isn't any other remedy for America to survive except through total diversity.
Our enemies are watching within and without.
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Nope, that is the actual oath of office. Trust me, I took that oath at last 12 times personally and also administered it more times than I can count.
progressive hunter
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if you did it is a stain on the flag,,
the oath also says protect from enemies both foreign and domestic,,
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Harpy Eagle
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says a person that never had the balls to serve their country. Typical
Yes it does. What is your point?
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and they found themselves over staffed after 2020
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Brisk bow, click of heels.
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