Agree? "If Putin is allowed to succeed in Ukraine, that threatens all of us." - UK's Ambassador to the U.S.

[Toddsterpatriot]

No. Actually, he is remilitarizing it. It's highly unlikely that NATO will accept Russia-acceptable peace treaty after defeat of Ukraine, so, highly likely, Ukraine is just the beginning.

A lot of them. Most of new tanks, as far as I know, are going into new units. Russian (and Indian) industry produce much more scratch-new tanks than lose in Ukraine.


Cold war tanks are supposed to be used now, mostly for recon. They are cheap and expendable. I doubt that there will be a lot of use of them during de-nazification of Poland and Germany.

Thanks for the laughs.

It's true, vodka does make Russians funny.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

 

[Papageorgio]

trump DOES NOT CARE. He and Poootin are butt buddies and Donnie will end up giving Ukraine to Russia. It is only the beginning for Poootin. He will soon have his eyes on Poland and other former Soviet satellite countries. And trump still DOES NOT CARE.

Obama presidency Russia invades Crimea.
Trump, Russia stays inside their borders.
Biden presidency Russia invades Ukraine and Palestine bombs Israel.

We will see what happens but it seems Russia is better behaved under Trump than under the other two.

 

[Deadstick]

The whole interview is interesting, but that statement is at 17 45.



"If Putin is allowed to succeed in Ukraine, that threatens all of us, including the U.S., and it certainly emboldens China. And I dont think anyone in the U.S. wants to see that."

Let's analyze that. First of all, Joe Biden must not have been in the U.S. when she made that last statment, because Joe Biden just spent an entire presidential term embolding China as a side hustle to his job of POTUS.

Maybe someone can explain to me how Russia succeeding in the Ukraine threatens the U.S. more than Russia succeeding in the Crimea, which Democrats had no problem with Obama allowing?

Maybe they an explain to me why, if Trump is a Putin Puppet, Putin invaded Crimea under Obama, no country under Trump and then Ukraine under Biden.

I get that the Brits have a lot of nostalgia about the First World War and the Second World War. Suddenly, they were relevant again. They'd love to defend Fascists against Russia, instead of Russia against fascists, just for a change of pace.U

But, really. Do they think anyone will be around to be nostalgic about World War III if they bring it about through the exact ******* same type web of interlocking defense pacts as got us into WWI and WWII?

But, I'm glad there is all this talk about Trump completely cutting off Ukrainian aid. Might be what is needed to get that little dictator to the negotiating table to save his country from complete anexation into Russia.

At 19:00, Ambassador Pierce resists the "journalist's" attempt to pull her into Trump derangement by saying that a pro-Russia figure "talks to Donald Trump." She tells the host that Trump is his own man, which are probably the truest words that could be strung together in English.

What is this arsehole barking about ? the only thing Russia in Ukraine is a threat to is NATO credibility, the scumbags have been found out.

 

[Zavulon]

Have to agree with part of that. The Moth has to take into a count of what patriotic Van'kas really are now. Too many babbling and too few actions. So, he has to sweep 'national outskirts' too.

No, thanks. I am not interested in your dogshit army.

Some of my friends though same way. But there is a logic of intention and there is a logic of circumstances, and the logic of circumstances is always stronger. If you face the choice:
1) to work in a food delivery service for 100k rouble/month (the best option you'll have without Russian cutizenship)
2) or to join Russian Army, get Russian citizenship and earn 5 mln roubles/year (plus bonuses) in Poland or Worse Korea
it doesn't seem so obvious, does it?

 

[Zavulon]

Thanks for the laughs.

It's true, vodka does make Russians funny.

The pleasure is all mine. That's why we are here - its always funny to talk with some "stupid foreigners", who don't understand even the most obvious (for you) things.

 

[Zavulon]

Have to agree with part of that. The Moth has to take into a count of what patriotic Van'kas really are now. Too many babbling and too few actions. So, he has to sweep 'national outskirts' too.

Russia was started by "sweeping national outskirts" (like Slavic, Finnish and Baltic tribes) and later there were a lot of foreigners and ethnic minorities at the service for Russian throne. Russia is the land of freedom and opportunities and military service is the simplest social elevator.

 

[ESay]

Some of my friends though same way. But there is a logic of intention and there is a logic of circumstances, and the logic of circumstances is always stronger. If you face the choice:
1) to work in a food delivery service for 100k rouble/month (the best option you'll have without Russian cutizenship)
2) or to join Russian Army, get Russian citizenship and earn 5 mln roubles/year (plus bonuses) in Poland or Worse Korea
it doesn't seem so obvious, does it?

No thanks, I will keep with my current citizenship.

 

[ESay]

Russia was started by "sweeping national outskirts" (like Slavic, Finnish and Baltic tribes) and later there were a lot of foreigners and ethnic minorities at the service for Russian throne. Russia is the land of freedom and opportunities and military service is the simplest social elevator.

This social elevator can easily get you under the ground. And a tiny pitch of land is what you get from this stupid 'throne'. Let 'native' patriots enjoy this freedom and opportunities.

 

[Zavulon]

No thanks, I will keep with my current citizenship.

But what if you current citizenship won't exist anymore? No more Ukraine, no more Ukrainian citizenship. And to become refugee, I believe, is even worse than become a pizza delivery courier.

 

[Zavulon]

This social elevator can easily get you under the ground. And a tiny pitch of land is what you get from this stupid 'throne'. Let 'native' patriots enjoy this freedom and opportunities.

But rejecting possibilities will definitely put you on the lowest level in any human hierarchy. Not very different from getting under the ground.

 

[ESay]

But what if you current citizenship won't exist anymore? No more Ukraine, no more Ukrainian citizenship. And to become refugee, I believe, is even worse than become a pizza delivery courier.

I don't think so.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The pleasure is all mine. That's why we are here - its always funny to talk with some "stupid foreigners", who don't understand even the most obvious (for you) things.

I may not understand the most obvious things, but I understand Putin thought he'd win in weeks, and he's still struggling,
after years.

Meanwhile, Russia's weak economy, is even weaker.

 

[Zavulon]

I may not understand the most obvious things, but I understand Putin thought he'd win in weeks,

You don't know what Putin (and his decision-makers) thought. As far as I know, his decision makers player almost all possible and even some impossible scenarios (including direct involvement of NATO forces).

and he's still struggling,
after years.

Really? May be, he enjoy this scenario. At least, if we are talking about his inner politic its quite profitable.

Meanwhile, Russia's weak economy, is even weaker.

And this is also not true. At least in the terms of the "real" economy.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You don't know what Putin (and his decision-makers) thought. As far as I know, his decision makers player almost all possible and even some impossible scenarios (including direct involvement of NATO forces).


Really? May be, he enjoy this scenario. At least, if we are talking about his inner politic its quite profitable.

And this is also not true. At least in the terms of the "real" economy.

You don't know what Putin (and his decision-makers) thought.

Putin thought he'd still be bogged down after nearly 3 years?

And this is also not true. At least in the terms of the "real" economy.

What's the "real" Russian economy like?
Selling your oil at a discount for rupees instead of at full price for Euros?
Tell me more!

 

[Zavulon]

You don't know what Putin (and his decision-makers) thought.

Putin thought he'd still be bogged down after nearly 3 years?

No. Putin (and almost every sane person) know that even immediate fall of Kievan regime and end of orginized military resistance means at least ten years of anti-guerilla war in West Ukraine (beyong Zbruch river).

And this is also not true. At least in the terms of the "real" economy.

What's the "real" Russian economy like?
Selling your oil at a discount for rupees instead of at full price for Euros?
Tell me more!

Selling our oil for rupees and then buying for those rupees new T-90 tanks and other useful things is definitely better then selling oil for dollars lately stolen by western thieves.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No. Putin (and almost every sane person) know that even immediate fall of Kievan regime and end of orginized military resistance means at least ten years of anti-guerilla war in West Ukraine (beyong Zbruch river).


Selling our oil for rupees and then buying for those rupees new T-90 tanks and other useful things is definitely better then selling oil for dollars lately stolen by western thieves.

Putin isn't dragging it out for years because he's losing control, it was his plan all along. LOL

Is that all you can buy for your rupees, Indian tanks? Where is the T-90 factory in India? Link?

 

[Zavulon]

Putin isn't dragging it out for years because he's losing control, it was his plan all along. LOL

Really? Do you really believe that Putin personally write military plans?

Is that all you can buy for your rupees, Indian tanks? Where is the T-90 factory in India? Link?

Are you banned in google?
It's Heavy Vehicles Factory (HVF) in Avadi near Chennai.

Indian Army’s First Upgraded T-90 Bhishma Mk-3 Tank Enters Service

Indian Army’s First Upgraded T-90 Bhishma Mk-3 Tank Enters Service

armyrecognition.com

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Really? Do you really believe that Putin personally write military plans?



Are you banned in google?
It's Heavy Vehicles Factory (HVF) in Avadi near Chennai.

Indian Army’s First Upgraded T-90 Bhishma Mk-3 Tank Enters Service

Indian Army’s First Upgraded T-90 Bhishma Mk-3 Tank Enters Service

armyrecognition.com

That's really great news!
When the typical Russian citizen wonders why he can't afford to buy food or other necessities, he can sleep
well knowing that the tanks currently being destroyed by Ukrainian drones or by NATO rockets are produced in India
and paid for by selling Russian oil at a big discount.

 

[Zavulon]

That's really great news!
When the typical Russian citizen wonders why he can't afford to buy food or other necessities, he can sleep
well knowing that the tanks currently being destroyed by Ukrainian drones or by NATO rockets are produced in India
and paid for by selling Russian oil at a big discount.

Typical Russian citizens can afford to buy food. Actually, the wealth of the poorest part of Russian society significantly increased. 5 mln roubles/year are significant money for them.