Aetna will completely pull out of Obamacare by 2018

[debbiedowner]

Yep official announcement is now they are out. If you look at Aetna they've been in and out and screwing around with individual plans for over 20 years and never did get it down and obamacare came along and boom.

 

[Slashsnake]

Interesting. I can see my doctor on a moments' notice (perhaps a ten minute wait), get a hospital bed within a few hours, see virtually any local specialist within a day if need be, and Aetna cheerfully pays the bills save for my co-pay amount.

I have a friend in France who had to wait two months to see an ophthalmologist.

Ask me where I'd rather be.

So is this after your $600 a month payment and $5,000 deductible?

$250 deductible. No where near $600.

$250 deductible? Yeah bull shit dude. How much is your plan? $3,000 a month?

Apparently you have some special healthcare plan nobody else can get.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Interesting. I can see my doctor on a moments' notice (perhaps a ten minute wait), get a hospital bed within a few hours, see virtually any local specialist within a day if need be, and Aetna cheerfully pays the bills save for my co-pay amount.

I have a friend in France who had to wait two months to see an ophthalmologist.

Ask me where I'd rather be.

So is this after your $600 a month payment and $5,000 deductible?

$250 deductible. No where near $600.

$250 deductible? Yeah bull shit dude. How much is your plan? $3,000 a month?

Apparently you have some special healthcare plan nobody else can get.

I am not in Obamacare.

 

[Slashsnake]

Interesting. I can see my doctor on a moments' notice (perhaps a ten minute wait), get a hospital bed within a few hours, see virtually any local specialist within a day if need be, and Aetna cheerfully pays the bills save for my co-pay amount.

I have a friend in France who had to wait two months to see an ophthalmologist.

Ask me where I'd rather be.

So is this after your $600 a month payment and $5,000 deductible?

$250 deductible. No where near $600.

$250 deductible? Yeah bull shit dude. How much is your plan? $3,000 a month?

Apparently you have some special healthcare plan nobody else can get.

I am not in Obamacare.

And how did you enroll in this amazing plan so I can dump my ridiculously sucky Fidelis catastrophic plan?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Interesting. I can see my doctor on a moments' notice (perhaps a ten minute wait), get a hospital bed within a few hours, see virtually any local specialist within a day if need be, and Aetna cheerfully pays the bills save for my co-pay amount.

I have a friend in France who had to wait two months to see an ophthalmologist.

Ask me where I'd rather be.

So is this after your $600 a month payment and $5,000 deductible?

$250 deductible. No where near $600.

$250 deductible? Yeah bull shit dude. How much is your plan? $3,000 a month?

Apparently you have some special healthcare plan nobody else can get.

I am not in Obamacare.

And how did you enroll in this amazing plan so I can dump my ridiculously sucky Fidelis catastrophic plan?

I worked for the company providing it.

 

[Slashsnake]

So is this after your $600 a month payment and $5,000 deductible?

$250 deductible. No where near $600.

$250 deductible? Yeah bull shit dude. How much is your plan? $3,000 a month?

Apparently you have some special healthcare plan nobody else can get.

I am not in Obamacare.

And how did you enroll in this amazing plan so I can dump my ridiculously sucky Fidelis catastrophic plan?

I worked for the company providing it.

So your employer doesn't provide healthcare plans up to "ACA standards"?

I bet they love that monetary fine every year.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

$250 deductible. No where near $600.

$250 deductible? Yeah bull shit dude. How much is your plan? $3,000 a month?

Apparently you have some special healthcare plan nobody else can get.

I am not in Obamacare.

And how did you enroll in this amazing plan so I can dump my ridiculously sucky Fidelis catastrophic plan?

I worked for the company providing it.

So your employer doesn't provide healthcare plans up to "ACA standards"?

I bet they love that monetary fine every year.

They have pulled out of the market entirely.

 

[The Derp]

They have pulled out of the market entirely.

Only because they weren't allowed to merge with Humana.

Aetna LIED about their reasons for pulling out of the exchanges.

Judge: Aetna lied about quitting Obamacare
The judge said there is "persuasive evidence" that when Aetna later withdrew from the 17 counties in question, "it did not do so for business reasons, but instead to follow through on the threat that it made earlier.

Note the date on the article of January 24th. So you are here, pushing lies that have already been debunked.

So you are using Russian Active Measures to bullshit on a message board.

 

[The Derp]

Yep official announcement is now they are out. If you look at Aetna they've been in and out and screwing around with individual plans for over 20 years and never did get it down and obamacare came along and boom.

Aetna pulled out of Obamacare only because they weren't allowed to merge with Humana.

There was no business reason for pulling out of the exchanges. Aetna lied and you fell for it because you are dumber than shit.

 

[The Derp]

Obamacare is working, huh?Aetna pulls out of last ObamaCare markets

Hey fuckface, maybe you should do a little research into this before posting like a goddamned gullible moron.

Judge: Aetna lied about quitting Obamacare

So Aetna lied to you, you believed it because it's what you wanted to hear, and watch as you either ignore this entirely, or flame out like the piece of shit right-wing moron that you are.

Seriously, you have to be a real fucking idiot to be fooled by Aetna.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Interesting. I can see my doctor on a moments' notice (perhaps a ten minute wait), get a hospital bed within a few hours, see virtually any local specialist within a day if need be, and Aetna cheerfully pays the bills save for my co-pay amount.

I have a friend in France who had to wait two months to see an ophthalmologist.

Ask me where I'd rather be.

Anecddotes ain't data hon, ask someone to explain.

 

[The Derp]

Interesting. I can see my doctor on a moments' notice (perhaps a ten minute wait), get a hospital bed within a few hours, see virtually any local specialist within a day if need be, and Aetna cheerfully pays the bills save for my co-pay amount.
I have a friend in France who had to wait two months to see an ophthalmologist.
Ask me where I'd rather be.

Of course, this is all bullshit and everyone knows it. It's example #1 of a Conservative making up shit about themselves in order to lend their argument credibility it doesn't otherwise have. What started with Joe (not his real name) the Plumber (not his real job) has morphed into the most prolific Conservative tactic there is; substituting bullshit personal anecdotes, exaggerations, or omissions in place of actual facts to lend an argument credibility it does not have.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Obamacare is working, huh?Aetna pulls out of last ObamaCare markets

Hey fuckface, maybe you should do a little research into this before posting like a goddamned gullible moron.

Judge: Aetna lied about quitting Obamacare

So Aetna lied to you, you believed it because it's what you wanted to hear, and watch as you either ignore this entirely, or flame out like the piece of shit right-wing moron that you are.

Seriously, you have to be a real fucking idiot to be fooled by Aetna.

Research would be threatening to corporate state indoctrination belief systems.

 

[The Derp]

They have pulled out of the market entirely.

Of course, you know that the SHOP marketplace (where employers buy group plans) and the Obamacare Exchanges (where individuals go) are two completely different things. The SHOP marketplace was largely unaffected by Obamacare because plans on the SHOP exchanges have to be broad and cover lots of different things because they are group plans. The only real change was the tax on "Cadillac Plans", but that tax goes to pay for the subsidies that helped tens of millions gain coverage. Also, purchasing Cadillac Plans for your employees made little sense too, even before the ACA.

What would help your cause, Kinetta, is if you had any fucking clue what it is you are lying about.

 

[The Derp]

Research would be threatening to corporate state indoctrination belief systems.

I mean at this point it's not even corporate indoctrination, it's just malevolence.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Research would be threatening to corporate state indoctrination belief systems.

I mean at this point it's not even corporate indoctrination, it's just malevolence.

Nah, they're just frightened, too frightened and gullible to acknowledge where this society is at this point in time, and they're lashing out, just like the system and its corporate state media machine foment. The masses must be kept quibbling amongst themselves such that the societal wealth extraction may continue unabated.

Privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street bankster class
Internalized profit versus externalized risk and expense for the "job creator" class
Socialism for the aristocracy versus laissez-faire capitalism for the masses

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

They have pulled out of the market entirely.

Only because they weren't allowed to merge with Humana.

Aetna LIED about their reasons for pulling out of the exchanges.

Judge: Aetna lied about quitting Obamacare
The judge said there is "persuasive evidence" that when Aetna later withdrew from the 17 counties in question, "it did not do so for business reasons, but instead to follow through on the threat that it made earlier.

Note the date on the article of January 24th. So you are here, pushing lies that have already been debunked.

So you are using Russian Active Measures to bullshit on a message board.

Regardless of a judge's opinion, they have pulled out of the market entirely. Shall I repeat this again for the hard of reading?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

They have pulled out of the market entirely.

Of course, you know that the SHOP marketplace (where employers buy group plans) and the Obamacare Exchanges (where individuals go) are two completely different things. The SHOP marketplace was largely unaffected by Obamacare because plans on the SHOP exchanges have to be broad and cover lots of different things because they are group plans. The only real change was the tax on "Cadillac Plans", but that tax goes to pay for the subsidies that helped tens of millions gain coverage. Also, purchasing Cadillac Plans for your employees made little sense too, even before the ACA.

What would help your cause, Kinetta, is if you had any fucking clue what it is you are lying about.

Have they not pulled out of the market entirely?

 

[The Derp]

Regardless of a judge's opinion, they have pulled out of the market entirely. Shall I repeat this again for the hard of reading?

It's not the judge's opinion, it's fact. That's what an investigation found. The question now is; why do you take anything Aetna says truthfully knowing they deliberately lied about their reasons for leaving the exchanges.

 

[The Derp]

Have they not pulled out of the market entirely?

Doing so has nothing to do with Obamacare. So the central premise to your argument is false. They pull out of the market because they weren't allowed to merge with Humana. But they said it was because of Obamacare, even though a judge found that to be a lie. The question is; why do you continue taking what Aetna says as the truth? Are you fucking stupid or something?