Active Shooter (now inactive) Killed by Armed Shopper in Crozet, Virginia

[1srelluc]

Two dead, including suspect, after shooting near Augusta Health clinic in Crozet

Two people have died and another was taken to a hospital after shots were fired near an Augusta Health clinic and Harris Teeter store in Crozet.

www.whsv.com

27 year old male with high capacity rifle (supposedly AK) lights up an old lady in a subaru in the parking lot. An old man is also shot and killed.

Armed Shopper, leaving the store engages and kills the shooter. Old lady is med-evaced to UVA hospital.

News media has been shockingly quiet about this. Perhaps because armed shopper was able to end it so quickly.

Doesn't surprise me, though. Charlottesville/Crozet area are uber-liberal and likely not to say much about a good guy with a gun saving the day.

 

[Moonglow]

Considering all the murders that occur in every state I doubt every event is covered by national news.

If it is I am sure you will apologize for being wrong,

 

[Harry Dresden]

Considering all the murders that occur in every state I doubt every event is covered by national news.

If it is I am sure you will apologize for being wrong,

how would one know if its covered everywhere?...

 

[Moonglow]

how would one know if its covered everywhere?...

I have no idea since we can't be everywhere at once.

 

[Harry Dresden]

I have no idea since we can't be everywhere at once.

so why would 1srelluc have to apologize for something he couldnt possibly know?..

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[Moonglow]

so why would 1srelluc have to apologize for something he couldnt possibly know?..

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Why is he attacking something he doesn't know? I mirrored his statement.

 

[1srelluc]

I'm sure "Moms Against Everything" will count them all as "gun deaths" without context.

 

[Moonglow]

I'm sure "Moms Against Everything" will count them all as "gun deaths" without context.

Not the "Moms Against Drunk Drivers".

 

[martybegan]

Two dead, including suspect, after shooting near Augusta Health clinic in Crozet

Two people have died and another was taken to a hospital after shots were fired near an Augusta Health clinic and Harris Teeter store in Crozet.

www.whsv.com

27 year old male with high capacity rifle (supposedly AK) lights up an old lady in a subaru in the parking lot. An old man is also shot and killed.

Armed Shopper, leaving the store engages and kills the shooter. Old lady is med-evaced to UVA hospital.

News media has been shockingly quiet about this. Perhaps because armed shopper was able to end it so quickly.

Doesn't surprise me, though. Charlottesville/Crozet area are uber-liberal and likely not to say much about a good guy with a gun saving the day.

Sucks the woman died, but the asshole shooter got his proper dose of leadacillin.

 

[JoeB131]

Two dead, including suspect, after shooting near Augusta Health clinic in Crozet

Two people have died and another was taken to a hospital after shots were fired near an Augusta Health clinic and Harris Teeter store in Crozet.

www.whsv.com

27 year old male with high capacity rifle (supposedly AK) lights up an old lady in a subaru in the parking lot. An old man is also shot and killed.

Armed Shopper, leaving the store engages and kills the shooter. Old lady is med-evaced to UVA hospital.

News media has been shockingly quiet about this. Perhaps because armed shopper was able to end it so quickly.

Doesn't surprise me, though. Charlottesville/Crozet area are uber-liberal and likely not to say much about a good guy with a gun saving the day.

Actually, the main reason why the media is so silent on this is we have hundreds of gun deaths every day. We just can't pay attention to a mere two people killed in a gun exchange.

 

[White 6]

It is True, as your ad has said, "Virginia is for Lovers", well armed, well-trained lovers of life, willing to do what's needed done, while they go about their personal lives. This was the best outcome, of this tragic event, possible. I salute your state and it's citizens that stand ready, when needed.

 

[JoeB131]

It is True, as your ad has said, "Virginia is for Lovers", well armed, well-trained lovers of life, willing to do what's needed done, while they go about their personal lives. This was the best outcome, of this tragic event, possible. I salute your state and it's citizens that stand ready, when needed.

Wouldn't it be better if someone who was mentally unstable didn't have an AR-15 to start with?

We got lucky this time that someone reacted, assuming this guy wasn't just after the old lady in the car and not just randoming shooting people. If she was his only target, then really, not much was accomplished other than saving the state the cost of a trial.

 

[White 6]

Wouldn't it be better if someone who was mentally unstable didn't have an AR-15 to start with?

We got lucky this time that someone reacted, assuming this guy wasn't just after the old lady in the car and not just randoming shooting people. If she was his only target, then really, not much was accomplished other than saving the state the cost of a trial.

Yes, but until that can be done, people of courage, with training and skills, stand in the breech, to take action before police can possibly react. These people honor the sense of duty to fellow man, proper parenting should instill.

 

[JoeB131]

Yes, but until that can be done, people of courage, with training and skills, stand in the breech, to take action before police can possibly react. These people honor the sense of duty to fellow man, proper parenting should instill.

There are less than 200 successful DGU's by civilians a year vs. 19,000 gun homicides, 25,000 gun suicides, and 400,000 gun crimes every year.

No, the occasional "Feel Good" story doesn't address the underlying problem of a country that loves its guns more than it loves its children.

 

[1srelluc]

There are less than 200 successful DGU's by civilians a year vs. 19,000 gun homicides, 25,000 gun suicides, and 400,000 gun crimes every year.

No, the occasional "Feel Good" story doesn't address the underlying problem of a country that loves its guns more than it loves its children.

“there are tens of thousands of cases in which private citizens use firearms in self-defense. The incidents in which the criminals were killed represent a small but significant part of this larger story. The bottom line is that our Second Amendment rights are just as relevant today as they have ever been.”

New FBI Report: Armed Citizens Stopped Active Shooters in 2021

The FBI’s 2021 report on “active shooter incidents” indicated that four perpetrators of such attacks were slain by armed private citizens.

gunsamerica.com

The good guy with a gun does not necessarily have to kill the bad guy....Just stop him/her/it from causing further damage.....Many of us choose not to be a victim.

 

[White 6]

There are less than 200 successful DGU's by civilians a year vs. 19,000 gun homicides, 25,000 gun suicides, and 400,000 gun crimes every year.

No, the occasional "Feel Good" story doesn't address the underlying problem of a country that loves its guns more than it loves its children.

I was not trying to address your problem. I do hope, I or some other well-trained, properly armed citizen, in on-scene to aid and protect my grandkids, in the event of an attempted homicide. Obviously, I will be on-scene to protect my wife, as well as self-protect and of course, my grown kids are armed for the same reasons. I am perfectly willing for you to take your chances with your strategy, unable to protect yourself or anybody else against an armed criminal attack, but, I do wish you the best of luck, and hoping a responsible citizen might be near, to possibly step in.

 

[Captain Caveman]

It's a shame Yanks don't have the braincells to work on on how to reduce shootings and guns in public, yet they masturbate over shooting back.

 

[JoeB131]

I was not trying to address your problem. I do hope, I or some other well-trained, properly armed citizen, in on-scene to aid and protect my grandkids, in the event of an attempted homicide. Obviously, I will be on-scene to protect my wife, as well as self-protect and of course, my grown kids are armed for the same reasons. I am perfectly willing for you to take your chances with your strategy, unable to protect yourself or anybody else against an armed criminal attack, but, I do wish you the best of luck, and hoping a responsible citizen might be near, to possibly step in.

Here the problem with that thinking.

I could go out with a gun and be "prepared". (Shit, I was in the army for 11 years, I know how to operate a gun.) What I'm not doing is preparing for that every second of every day. Meanwhile, the mass shooter is coming in with a plan. He's prepared for this day for a very long time.

So hoping some gun-toting person will react in time is putting your hopes on a very slim reed, which is why these kinds of cases are so flipping rare. 600 mass shootings a year, and maybe one or two are prevented because a person had the presence of mind to shoot back?

 

[BackAgain]

Considering all the murders that occur in every state I doubt every event is covered by national news.

If it is I am sure you will apologize for being wrong,

 

[White 6]

Here the problem with that thinking.

I could go out with a gun and be "prepared". (Shit, I was in the army for 11 years, I know how to operate a gun.) What I'm not doing is preparing for that every second of every day. Meanwhile, the mass shooter is coming in with a plan. He's prepared for this day for a very long time.

So hoping some gun-toting person will react in time is putting your hopes on a very slim reed, which is why these kinds of cases are so flipping rare. 600 mass shootings a year, and maybe one or two are prevented because a person had the presence of mind to shoot back?

Everybody I know, has weapons, most, more than one. Most have a hand gun. People I hang around are also permit holders and carry concealed, most of the time, like myself. We go to the range several times a year, maintaining skills, practicing and just because we enjoy shooting, and have significant ammo expense on a yearly basis. I am a big believer in training, practice and going through the process of obtaining a permit, though legally I could constitutionally carry in my state. It is little more than a "good guy" card signifying I have passed a state approved training, that include the laws of use in defensive situations, passed an exam, and record fired for qualification on a range, certified by a certified instructor, after passing a local and a national agency background check.

Do I carry every time I leave the house? No. But most of the time, I do. I always do if going out at night, or to down town or Walmart, day or night. I always do if traveling, and only travel to states that honor my permit. With my should holster, you will never see it. It is just something else to put on, part of being dressed to go out. It is just another part of taking responsibility for my own security.